Its Working! Fewer foreigners coming to study in America

US intelligence warns China is using student spies to steal secrets

 

You would think the Unemployment rate would show this if 10,000's lost there jobs nope it's at 3.6%

 

You mean increased profit margins on a subset of customers goes directly to the bottom line and doesn't mitigate costs for other customer consituencies? Okay I'll rent the argument that all these institutions are just money grubbing profiteers.

 

No, I wouldn't think that because its a specious association.

For example the thousands of layoffs in the autosector should have impacted the unemployment rate but it didn't.

 

Well it's a fair viewpoint and you're entitled to it, but in my opinion there's a big problem in the west with education in general and specifically in regards to Universities. The west is currently importing their qualified workforce, they rely on immigration more so than educating their own citizens to do the jobs, because there's no profit in it. It's a BIG mistake, there need to be a bigger investment in our own people, our own children and our own education. For every migrant in there needs to be an substantial investment by that company (who employs them) in education

 

So...you do or don't think that US college costs would have gone up even further over the time period in the graph if there were no foreign students?

 

Quite the opposite. Revenue from foreign students reduces costs for US students.

 

How so? The reason why it cost so much is Democrats and colleges are having a cozy night in bed together

Government student loans is making college professors rich.

 

Your criticism is undeserved. I don't connect the idea of Democrats hating the uneducated while listening to Bernie Sanders & other Democratic candidates proposing making public education tuition free thru the bachelor's degree in college nationwide. Also, the vast majority of Democrats know the difference between legal & illegal immigrants. Just because most of us agree with Obama that the Dreamers deserve the right to stay in the U.S., since they were brought here before they were old enough to be given a choice, & they are now just as "American" as you or me, simply because they've never known any other culture. It's grossly unfair to say we should deport them. Most of them have no memories of their homeland, or how to live there. Many don't even speak Spanish. Being sympathetic to the plight of the Dreamers is simply showing that we have a heart, & are capable of compassion. But Obama was VERY HARD on adult illegals entering the U.S. during his Presidency. Actually, he deported more illegals than any President since the 1960s. In fact, he deported more illegals than all five of his immediate Presidential predecessors COMBINED. Blaming Obama, or those who supported him, for promoting "open borders" is not only factually mistaken, it is another of many, malicious lies by Trump & his Republicans, to mislead the American voters. Under Trump, our southern border has not only developed new gigantic holes thru which illegals pour, but his extremist policies reject any recognition of human rights for illegals, along with the continuing separation & incarceration of children & their parents for undetermined lengths of time. Trump's militaristic immigration policies have been an abject failure, both in terms of quantity & quality. That policy is a national disgrace, right along with Trump himself.

 

Kinda get a kick out of those saying Obama locking up kids in cages, deporting more illegals than Trump is somehow more humane than trying to stop illegals from entering in the first place. Obama built the cages that Trump is using.

 

really.. then why do fees keep going up...

 

That is all good. Shrinking economy => less CO2.
Less employment for fewer people, a wash.

What is it we need immigrants for? Build robots instead!

 

They would have gone up more I think.

 

I'm not buying it...

Education have become a pay to play or Affirmative Action system, performance have little to do with it.

 

The Universities went thru this right after 9-11 too when foreign students stayed away or didn't return. It was in all the newspapers at the time.

What does this have to do with affirmative action?

 

The system Margot, the Education system is a whole system and it's broken, Affirmative action is part of it, as is International students, high fees, dead end degrees, high debts and inability to service them due to lack of jobs, pay to play and lack of focus on domestic education and performance.

 

I don't know what you are talking about. Most foreign students return home when they complete their education.

 

Yes... with our science.

What I'm talking about you need to widen your view.

Government fill jobs where there are a lack a of qualified applicants with migrants, these migrants push wages down and property prices up, to argue that this is good for the country is a blatant lie. It is good for the wealthy, because the average man or woman on the street... and the asset poor millennials are losing, they are struggling. Government needs to focus on training our people, our children and our citizens for these jobs... and stop evading their responsibility with open border style policies.

 

Governments are hiring migrants? Really?

We have never had open borders in my lifetime.

 

Governments provide visas that allow for the hiring of migrants... honestly... that question was second grade.

Porous borders, leaky borders may as well be considered open

 

Yes. Obama faced a situation quite different from that faced by Trump today. Obama faced thousands of early teen & pre-teen children illegals entering the country without adults. Parents were so desparate to get their children to a safe place, they sent them into the U.S. alone, depending on American kindness to save them from whatever they were fleeing. Obama didn't separate the children from their parents. Obama housed children until they could be returned & reunited with their parents, or until they could find foster homes for them here. Trump separated families after they arrived here together, & incarcerated them according to gender & age, on a long term basis. This was not necessary, & continues causing incredible stress on young children who had no idea what was going on. Many of those children are less than 5 years old. No one can legitimately claim Obama was worse than Trump. Those that do are as heartless as Trump himself.

 

LOL, the same issue that Trump faces.

 

Obama dealt with children already split from parents & had to take care of them until they could be reunited with parents. Trump separated children from parents here & kept them separated. How is that the same?

 

Didn't read latest ridiculously false correlation Orangemanbad thread in its entirety.

ROFLMFAO. So 9/11 and not the spiraling costs since the 80s caused by government meddling in student loans caused tuition increase? My ass.

Amusing cart before the horse. The U.S. has extremely expensive post secondary education/value ratio with no end of the rampant inflation in sight. This is due to the boneheaded involvement of our government in insuring student loans over decades, and also due to our watered down "degree for everyone in anything from anywhere" will make you "edumacated and rich!" fraud. Pair those with various factors such as grade inflation that make the degrees from our gov-edu worth less and less in the world market for degreed talent. Add in a dash of parents in more conservative cultures in the East not wanting their kids being indoctrinated into ANTIFA thugs by out and out communists to the tune of $75k a year. No wonder less are coming here to get bilked.

Trump didn't do that. Decades of gov-EDU-union-contractor-grantee-trial lawyer-MSM Complex greed and fraud did that. Cultural Marxism did that.

 

Criminal parents in both cases.