Ivanka Trump sent hundreds of emails about government business on personal account: report

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  1. mdrobster

    mdrobster Well-Known Member

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    or one be hypocritical and ignore this admins discretions.
     
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    when you own your private server you can change the From address.

    Some of Mrs. Clinton’s closest aides were unaware of the server
    Mrs. Clinton said in her interview it was “common knowledge” that she had a private email address because it was “displayed to anyone with whom she exchanged emails.” But the F.B.I. said in a summary of its findings that “some State Department employees interviewed by the F.B.I. explained that emails by Clinton only contained the letter ‘H’ in the sender field and did not display her email address.” The F.B.I. said that some of Mrs. Clinton’s closest aides were aware she used a private email address but did not know she had set up a private server. The aides said they were “unaware of the existence of the private server until after Clinton’s tenure at State or when it became public knowledge.”

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    excuses, what is displayed is irrelevant. audits should have been done, and clinton should have not been allowed to use her server.
     
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    You ever hear of a write in space on a ballot? I of course voted for Kasich in the primaries. Since I worked at a voting station I had to vote by absentee ballot so writing in a candidate was easy.
     
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    Three courts have dismissed the three emoluments lawsuits...........

    LAW & THE COURTS
    The Emoluments of Sore Losers
    "...
    Early presidential practice supports the president’s interpretation. Presidents Washington, Jefferson, Madison, and Monroe all owned massive plantations and sold agricultural commodities in Europe. Undoubtedly, some of their customers were foreign governments, but no political opponent ever raised the specter that they were violating the foreign-emoluments clause.

    President Trump’s opponents, on the other hand, seek to define emolument as the receipt of anything of value by the Trump Organization from any foreign country, with no distinction made for arm’s-length commercial transactions. To them, there is no difference between a foreign diplomat paying for a steak dinner at a Trump restaurant and a foreign diplomat paying the president a bribe for favorable treatment.


    Alas, Trump opponents, still wincing from the 2016 election, are undertaking constitutional litigation and making strained arguments solely to embarrass and harm him. They apparently haven’t learned the lesson that public disgust with give-no-quarter politics, in part, led to the defeat of Establishment candidates in both the Republican primaries and the general election.

    The emoluments litigation is likely to backfire, especially for many of the 196 members of Congress involved. How can anyone take congressional whining about possible corruption seriously when Congress as a body has sold its collective soul to special interests and is pushing our national debt to the $20 trillion mark?"
    https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/06/donald-trump-emoluments-clause-no-violation/
     
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    Wronger than wrong. She by virtue of the fact that she is an official advisor to the POTUS who happens to be her father is part of the White House staff, albeit unpaid. She was transmitting government business.

    There is more. Date LINE MAY 2018. Ivanka Trump had full security clearance so I do not want to here that she is a civilian.

    May 1,2018 she was upgraded from Interim Security to " full Top Seciroty clearance.
    No excuses about her being a civilian are being accepted by me.

    https://www.axios.com/ivanka-trump-...ner-f0ff4333-3665-4778-9c35-ba10bae55d94.html

    Edit more proof that I am correct. Invanka Trump is a government employee since 2017.
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    https://www.cnn.com/2017/03/29/politics/ivanka-trump-white-house-job/index.html
     
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    Doesn't matter as long as she archives the emails with the National Archives and they don't include classified information or personal sensitive information such as SSN or birth dates.
     
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    They wanted to lock her up for breaking the law. But, as I said, she is above the law.
     
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    Can you answer this very simple question without a deflection?

    What happened to 33,000 emails that mysteriously vanished from Hillary's email account? Feel free to just use your own opinion.

    Do you believe someone magically stole them? Or is it possible she had them permanently deleted?

    I have a feeling you will never answer this as it goes against your Queen's agenda.
     
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    When were the emails sent?
     
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    The Democrats will turn a nonissue into a giant mess while simultaneously wiping clean all of their crimes and misdeeds under Obama. The real aim is to cover up their crimes and steal power from duly elected leaders.
     
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    She had interim Top Security Clearance from March 2017 and she was upgraded to Top Security clearance so you fit it in.

    She used her personal Email to move government business that is a rule violation no. Alter how you slice it. Hillary used a personal server to move government business.. That also is a rule violation. Hillary's Emails are obviously way more important but they both broke the rules. Hillary's punishment should be more severe.
     
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    Top Secret! I cannot share that information except via public email!
     
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    "turn a nonissue into a giant mess".

    Just EXACTLY like the GOP did when obsessing over Hillary's emails?

    Got it.

    Turnabout is fair play.:salute:
     
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    Actually, Colin Powell used private e-mail too. It just wasn't such a big deal before the GOP started to make it one with the Clinton witch hunt. Thus, it is really stupid that Ivanka exposes herself to the same criticism, considering what her dad did to Hillary. And her defense is: "I didn't know!!!" Can you even fathom the ridiculousness of this?
     
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    That isn't an answer to the question. I know when she got her clearance. My guess is that you don't know the dates when she sent the emails. I will save you some time. You won't find it. WaPo, who first broke the story, doesn't even know. From WaPo:
    "That review revealed that throughout much of 2017, she often discussed or relayed official White House business using a private email account with a domain that she shares with her husband, Jared Kushner."

    What does "throughout much of 2017" mean? Is it three months? Is it six months? Is it eight months?
    What "official White House business" did she discuss? Was it dinner menus, staff uniforms, meeting schedules?
    Do you know when she received her training for using her account and handling classified information?
    Do you know when she was first given access to classified information?
    Those are basic answers that need to be answered before we even determine if there is an issue.

    Do you know that it isn't illegal to use personal email for work as long as you archive the emails with the National Archives and they don't contain classified or sensitive personal information such as social security numbers or date of birth? We know the emails have been archived since they found the emails for the FOIA that WaPo wrote the article about.


    NARA Bulletin 2013-03: Bulletin Related to Use of Personal Email Accounts
    Bulletin 2013-03
    September 9, 2013


    TO: Heads of Federal Agencies

    SUBJECT: Guidance for agency employees on the management of Federal records, including email accounts, and the protection of Federal records from unauthorized removal

    https://www.archives.gov/records-mgmt/bulletins/2013/2013-03.html
     
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    No - I mean ALL the emails that she has written and received on that account since joining government. Not just the ones that she claims relate to government business. ALL of them.
     
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    You keep saying, "1950 records act". I don't think you know what that is.
     
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    YAWN.... Did Ivanka lie repeatedly and bleach bit 33K emails that should have been turned over to the FBI? No, she didn't. :)
     
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    and? if she violate the law, its violation of law doesn't matter she lie or not. i'm not a fan of Clinton, but this is just hypocrite.
     
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    You have no idea if she broke law, so no, it's not being a hypocrite. We KNOW for a fact Hillary Clinton broke the law and then was protected by a Trump hating FBI agent bent in charge of the investigation. She should be in jail and so should the FBI agent(s) that protected her.
     
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    fyi, when i was a defense contractor, we were requured to log all our work, including electronic mail !!!
     
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    FYI I was in the military with several clearances, the lowest being Secret, for 28 years. Your contract or your employer required you to use govt email, not the 1950 records act. When using email it is required that one archive the emails that pertain to govt activity. That is the only part you got right. When one uses personal email they are required to archive it if it pertains to govt business but using personal email on a personal computer for govt business that doesn't contain classified or sensitive personal information isn't prohibited by the 1950 Records Act.

    Here is the page for the 1950 Records Act:
    https://www.archives.gov/press/press-releases/2015/nr15-23.html

    Here is the link for personal emails:
    NARA Bulletin 2013-03: Bulletin Related to Use of Personal Email Accounts
     
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    Did Colin Powell use a private server in his basement that was compromised and all those emails leaked out all over the internet proving corruption inside the DNC that rigged elections, leaked info to journalists, classified emails sent in hostile foreign territory and then when all of this came to light, did he destroy 33K emails and never turn the server over to the FBI?

    No, he didn't. It's not the same thing at all. You are trying to equate jaywalking with mass murder. While still illegal, they are completely different animals all together.

    Talk about being a hypocrite. Good grief.
     

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