Japan holds military drill as S. China Sea islands dispute widens

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  1. reedak

    reedak Well-Known Member

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    You believe in time but I believe in logic. Don't forget your prediction about the Israel-Palestininan solution for this year. My prediction is: "The Israel-Palestinian problem can never have a permanent solution."

    Let's see who will have a last laugh this year.
     
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    I don't recall posting that I predicted an Israeli/Palestinian Solution this year.

    I might have said such a thing was possible...but you will have to post my post saying I specifically stated this would happen this year.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Sorry for the mistake.

    Yes, you had said or boasted such a thing was possible if you were put in charge of the peace negotiation using money power. In fact, so fast "that agreement would be signed in about 30 minutes".

    Perhaps it's time for you take over the post of Secretary of State to bring peace to the Middle East.
     
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    If Bush was in office...that would be the case. I think you have too much faith in the Obama administration's resolve. They really don't seem to have any.
     
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    If you don't have too much faith in the Obama administration's resolve, please trust the rationality of the leadership of the Chinese government and military unless you think they are nincompoops and lunatics.
     
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    Good Lord. Trust a country that does not have our ...security as a concern? A country like China is looking for opportunities to advance their influence and power within the world. I don't think we should trust them. Frankly...its a sad situation. Our own leaders don't seem to have our security and best interests at heart....and I personally think an ally like Japan can easily be thrown under the bus. I'm willing to bet China thinks that too.

    Interesting article. http://www.project-syndicate.org/co...ntification-zone-has-japanese-leaders-worried
     
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    A country that acts rationally is not acting for your security but for its own security and its people's security. Taking an analogy, suppose your father acted irrationally when you were a little child, e.g. by pointing a gun at the police, surely you would lose all your faith in your father as he was not acting for your security and interest.

    Even if China is not "looking for opportunities to advance its influence and power within the world" and all its people are still in a deep slumber, the snores of one quarter of the world's population will definitely wake up the whole world.

    It's natural for humans to distrust something that is big and strong, and despise something that is small and weak.

    Never underestimate your American leaders. When the first group of American adventurers set sail from the west American coast, the first thing that came to their mind was whether they could find some more Red Indians to subdue in Asia.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=337134

    Better worry about yourself. The Japanese may throw you under the train instead.

    There may come a day when Japan will settle the old scores of Hiroshima and Nagasaki with your country.

    If China has ever thought like you, it would have thrown Japan not under the bus but into hell long ago during the Tang Dynasty when the Japanese were still loose groups of tribal people like the Red Indians.
     
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    I don't believe I said this either.

    If I can remember I said if I was allowed to put certain plans into action that peace could be achieve very rapidly and I stand by this statement.

    But I never said anything about money or power....just to be given a green light.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    The treaty with Japan has nothing to do with which parties President is in office. This is a Military determination and is out of the hands of Politicians.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    It's all written on the computer screen. Staunch believer and worshipper of MONEY POWER, what else can you say? :worship:

    "The ONLY way to make peace is to cut off the money!" -- AboveAlpha

    "If we cut off that Monetary AID....then you will see a PEACE." -- AboveAlpha

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=309019&page=18
     
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    Our President is commander and chief of the Military. Of course it matters who is president. I didn't say anything about parties.
     
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    Yes...I said these things because they are FACTS.

    You posted....that I stated...." if you were put in charge of the peace negotiation using money power...."

    The manner you posted this reads as if I DESIRED MONEY AND POWER....and to use money and power to..." achieve peace so fast "that agreement would be signed in about 30 minutes".

    What I ACTUALLY SAID.....was that if I was placed in a role to determine a course of action to force a peace....I would cut off all Monetary AID to all sides which would rapidly force a peace.

    And I don't just believe this would work....I KNOW THIS WOULD WORK!!!!

    Because I OWE a friend I have been tasked with PLYING BABYSITTER.....in low level meetings and the results of agreements made at such lower level meetings determine PROTOCOL and SCHEDULES of Higher Level Meetings where attempts at peace are made.

    BELIEVE ME....if it was not for the fact I really OWE this friend and I STILL owe him one more favor....I would stay away from these people and this area of the world like the PLAGUE!!! But I owe him and at this point since all sides KNOW I have no political agenda and will NOT favor one side over another as....I HATE THE LEADERSHIP AT THIS LEVEL OF ALL SIDES EQUALLY....I am now....ASKED FOR BY NAME!!

    Which really P!$$E$ ME OFF.....as my attempt to be rude and hostile to all sides backfired on me and now they believe because of my actions I am the only one all sides can trust to be unbiased.

    Once I was stuck there for 2 MONTHS and it once took like 10 days just for all sides to agree whether water served at the High Level Summit would be in Bottled Water or in Pitchers of Water with Glasses on the table.

    I once even locked 14 Members of all sides in a room for an afternoon and had members of my Team who were all HEAVILY ARMED refuse to let them out or allow the the security forces of such people....as the entire REASON I and my Team had to be freaking BABYSITTERS....is no side trusted the other side to provide security so WE DID and all the members security forces had to wait outside guarding their LIMO'S.

    One of my rules was NO CELL PHONES IN THE ROOM....so every member had to be searched....WHICH THEY DID NOT LIKE AT ALL....and all cell phones where checked in before they entered the conference room which was underground for OBVIOUS REASONS.

    So....I yelled through the steel door that until they agreed up what TIME and DAY as they had already agreed to month and year...that the High Level Talks would begin and be held....I would NOT let them out....and anyone who attempted to come in and rescue them....as THEY could not get out of these steel reinforced doors on either end of the underground conference room....any of their security forces attempting to get them out as the meeting was supposed to end within 30 minutes so their security people might wait 10 minutes but they would be sending down someone to ask when the meeting would be over and once they herd anyone yelling to get out they would FREAK...so I told those locked in the conference room....any member of their security forces that attempted to force their way in WOULD BE SHOT!!!!

    I wasn't kidding....I had HAD IT!!! 10 Day's to determine whether it would be BOTTLED WATER OR PITCHERS OF WATER WITH GLASSES....AND NOW THESE MORONS were NOT going to hold me up for another 10 day's deciding what day and time the meetings would be held!!!

    So....in what I can only describe as a moment of SANITY....as all of them KNEW I wasn't kidding...and they KNEW...their security forces would try to break them out....and they KNEW....exactly who and what my Team and I were capable of as they had all been supplied the dossiers from the U.S. State Department detailing every member of my Team including myself.....thus THEY KNEW....if they didn't agree to a time and date within the 25 minutes left My Team and I would be killing members of their security forces in what would become a massive international incident.....so about 5 minutes in and 20 minutes left....one of them knocked on the door and said very politely in English...."Excuse me....we have come to an agreement on day and time of the Meetings....can we come out now?"

    I believed them but just to BURN my point into each one of their brains I said....."I WANT EACH MEMBER TO COME TO THE DOOR....SAY THEIR NAME....AND SAY THE TIME AND DAY!"

    So....since out of the 14....only 5 Groups were actually being represented and the other 9 people who were allowed to attend...5 were advisers...one for each of the 5 Members and the last 4 were OBSERVERS allowed to be there to watch and document what happened and what agreements were made and who proposed them and ONE of these observers was my FRIEND who I still owe.

    So they all did what I asked and we let them out 15 minutes early and I stood there just outside the door....but this time I was armed and I stood next to my Team Member who was HEAVILY ARMED in full gear....and as the 5 Representatives of States along with one adviser walked past my Team mate and myself NOT ONE OF THEM could look us in the eyes!

    The remaining 3 Observers certainly did and did so very alarmed but as they saw the weapons we were holding they quickly kept walking.

    My FRIEND.....walked out last and waited for all the rest to go upstairs and out the doors....and he gave me a look and I told my Team to go wait for me outside.

    I was waiting for my friend....and I OWE HIM MY LIFE.....to start screaming....and as we waited for everyone to leave....he threw his arms around me and hugged me and yelled....'THAT WAS BRILLIANT!!!!!"

    He said we had to go watch the video tapes upstairs and he said he had a bottle he would open while we watched...and I said...I would do so ONLY...if my Team could watch too! He said OK...so he sent one of his staff to go get 3 more bottles of Booze and we all watched what I can HONESTLY SAY....was the FUNNIEST THING I HAVE EVER SEEN!!!!

    First all 10 Members.....the observers said nothing....started bickering and angrily screaming to my friend how they would MAKE CERTAIN the U.S. Military Leadership would have me thrown in Irons....and my friend replied...You all read his dossier....he is NOT Military.

    Then they started yelling about how they could NOT be treated this way and how they would make sure the STATE DEPT. would make certain I was never allowed to oversee such meetings again....to which my friend replied....well you would certainly being doing him a FAVOR as he doesn't work for the State Dept. and they had to BEG HIM to do this job as a FAVOR...my friend did not mentioned I owed him.....so if you do that he will be EXTREMELY HAPPY!!!

    Then they started talking about how their security forces would bust them out of there and THEN I would be sorry! My Friend said..."You all had better HOPE your security forces don't try to open fire or bust you out of here because HIS TEAM will cut them to pieces! And unlike me....HE DOESN'T CARE about the issues such a thing would create as I TOLD YOU....he was BEGGED to do this JOB...and he has ZERO interests in anything POLITICAL.

    Then my friend DROVE the point home. He said....if you all look and read section 1. Article 3a....of the security agreement YOU ALL PERSONALLY SIGNED.....it details how my friend has TOTAL AUTHORITY AND TOTAL DECISION MAKING ABILITY AND TOTAL CONTROL OF DETERMINATION over what constitutes a threat to each one of you personally or in total....and if he determine such a threat EXISTS....and if you read Article 3a....Such a threat determined to exist by the %$#@&^&%$## the Chief of Security for these Meetings and he and he alone is the ONLY PERSON who can determine exactly what that threat maybe....whether such a threat is an outside force, a member of the actual participating members or observers of such meetings and negotiations....or if that threat is determined to be members of the security forces of the participating members or observers.....the Chief of Security is AUTHORIZED BY ALL PARTICIPANTS, OBSERVERS, SECURITY FORCES and GOVERNMENTS OF ALL PARTICIPANTS AND OBSERVERS TO USE DEADLY FORCE TO PROTECT EITHER INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS OR OBSERVERS OF SUCH MEETINGS AND NEGOTIATIONS as the Security Chief feels is necessary.

    My Team and I watched my FRIEND say this on a monitor upstairs while we all drank Whiskey and ate PIZZA which my friend was kind enough to order two party sized with everything pizzas.....and after we all watched on the monitor my friend say this a big HOOUUUUT!!!! Went up from all my Team Members INCLUDING ME....and everyone got up and gave him a big pat on the back and a way to go!!!

    At this point I yelled...QUIET!! Let's watch the rest of the VIDEO!!!

    Right after that...we had to rewind a bit as all the guy's got so excited we missed some of the video....my friend went on to say..."Understand.....your Security Chief is someone I know. All he cares about is GETTING HOME!!! He could care less about your petty squabbling and if you think he is worried about what your governments would say or what the U.S. State Dept. would say if your security forces tried to bust you out of here and in the process he and his Team end up killing EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM.....you are SORELY MISTAKEN!"

    "He is not a member of the U.S. Military and he does not have a BOSS that can tell him what to do such as an U.S. Intelligence Group Chief.....he is here because they asked him to be here and even then the ONLY reason he is here is because I ASKED HIM TO BE HERE."

    "So if you are smart and want both yourself and your men to get out of this ALIVE and for any of you thinking you can hold me hostage as you have no weapons....I can tell you I am well trained much in the same way he and his Team are and even if you could over power me....your Security Chief will make CERTAIN not one of you leaves here alive today if you were to harm me."


    My friend was absolutely right when he said that an we all watched the video and my Team hooted and hollered...and I said to myself...."GOOD! After this they will NEVER allow me to be in charge of security!!!"

    They quickly talked and they agreed upon a time and date and I told you the rest already.

    But what I DIDN'T EXPECT....after I left and was thinking...Well....that end's that! That a couple years later I would be ASKED FOR BY NAME to do the same thing AGAIN!!!!

    Evidently it seem's that no matter how much you might threaten to KILL SOMEONE in the Middle East....the manner in which you do so breeds some kind of RESPECT.

    Evidently all sides trust me in that I am perfectly willing and capable of KILLING ALL OF THEM....but will do so FAIRLY AND WILL NOT EXCLUDE ANY MEMBER OF ANY NATIONALITY OR GROUP OR RELIGION.

    Thus they trust me. Crazy right?

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Thanks for telling us a very interesting story. I suppose if Obama happened to read this post of yours, he would get you to be the Secretary of State instead. Unfortunately, the chance for a busy man like him to bump into your post is very remote.

    So what's important and foremost is that you should contact Obama now to get you take over John Kerry's place immediately so that you can get the agreement "signed in about 30 minutes".

    The manner you posted your argument gives the impression that the Jews and the Palestinians are not actually fighting against each other. Instead their leaders seemed to be more interested to collude with each other to suck away as much money as possible from Uncle Sam. :smile:
     
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    I really don't care if they end up killing each other off...I really don't care!

    I understand that Israel is an important ally for us but I am sick and tired of being a BABYSITTER to full grown men!!

    I still owe my friend one more favor which was almost called in several months ago but after waiting in the belly of a C-5 in very hot weather we were told to stand down....THANK GOD!!!

    This whole thing is about MONEY!!!

    We give the Israeli's BILLIONS IN AID....and we give a smaller amount but still a very substantial amount of Monetary Aid to the Palestinians....and just so you know...when Arafat died both Fatah and Hamas BEGGED Arafat's relatives to give back 90% of the estimated $20 to $25 BILLION that he had stashed away in off shore accounts as he had to move it out of Swiss accounts due to U.S. Pressure.

    Fatah and Hamas offered to allow Arafat's relatives to keep up to $2.5 BILLION....but Arafat's relatives REFUSED!!!

    THAT is the nature of the Middle East....and as I stated if I did not owe my friend I would not go there or have any part of it because every time my Team and I have been there it takes everything we have just not to spray the entire Peace Conference Room with bullets!!!

    AboveAlpha
     
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    To be a BABYSITTER to full grown men is about MILK, not MONEY. :smile:
     
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    Yes...you could say they are suckling at the teat of America.

    I just got word I will soon be going.

    I was told just a short time ago I would not have to....but apparently things change and I will very soon be leaving with my Team.

    Because of my abilities and the Teams abilities I am allowed to say NO....but the stakes on this...JOB...are too high and for any other Team and Team Leader to attempt it....well....it would probably not work.

    Evidently as I think I explained in this topic....it would seem our Team's name precedes us and we are being asked for by name.

    Because of the NUMBER of parties involved this will be exceedingly dangerous and there is always the possibility some splinter sect member of one of these groups may not want peace and come in wearing an explosive vest.

    In a straight up fight my Team and I have no equals and all groups KNOW THIS....but it is at the moment when it would seem a solution and peace to be at hand that we are most vulnerable...but I have a Plan.

    I will be leaving soon...when I am not certain and for how long I don't know....but I can tell you the crap that has been going on is going to STOP. As I have stated many times....such groups can only push the United States so far and that point has been reached....and now it is my Team and Myself who must communicate to such groups EXACTLY what options they will be ALLOWED.

    You see....nothing and I mean NOTHING goes on for any length of time unless we allow it to go on.

    At any time and we very rarely have to do this....at any time U.S. Military Forces could end just about any issue or threat however because we take such considerations into account as civilian casualties and political concerns...to some at least it would appear the U.S. has a difficult time doing this or that.

    That is simply not true....if given the orders to take the gloves off....we could WIPE OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH....not only any Terrorist Group but even the entire mechanisms and people and systems that both create and fund and maintain a continual stream of new terrorists.

    There is a simple fact of mathematics and human nature....when a U.S. Drone Strike kills a Taliban or Terrorist Leader in Pakistan and the collateral kills a few others....and because of this it causes young kid's who's Father or Mother might have been part of that collateral just remember this.....if you are an ADULT bringing your kids to a party or funeral or reception where there exists not only Leadership Members of the Taliban or Al-Qaeda....YOU ARE WELL AWARE OF WHO IS AT THIS EVENT.

    You are there supporting such people and your kids are PURPOSELY BROUGHT THERE are to bear witness of a burial or a celebration or other events where such Terrorist Leadership is looked to as the FOUNDATION and AUTHORITY such people desire to emulate and such people desire their kids to emulate.

    Here is their problem....such Taliban or Al-Qaeda Leadership do NOT teach the realities and facts of U.S. Military Capabilities as well as the capabilities IF ALLOWED....of Special Forces and other groups.

    These adult followers of such Terrorist Leadership do not understand at just what level of Military capability can be brought to bear and they indoctrinate such people and such people indoctrinate their kids into thinking the U.S. is weak and that their JIHAD will succeed as they have GOD on their side.

    Now...THIS IS THE DANGER OF SUCH THINGS.

    No matter how well we prepare it is always possible for an individual or highly trained small group to cause massive damage ESPECIALLY is such things like Chemical Weapons or Dirty Bombs or GOD FORBID....some Weaponized Biological Agent perhaps stolen or bought from a lab located in a former Soviet State.

    The danger is that IF.....any Terrorist or Terrorist Group causes another 9/11 event....I HAVE SEEN THE CONTINGENCY PLANS....and we would deal with this issue as a ONCE AND FOR ALL FINAL SOLUTION...forgive the Nazi Term.

    THAT...is what scares me the most....not an attack on US....but what we would do as a Counter Attack.

    Because no matter just how capable and how advanced a person or group MIGHT think the U.S. Military is....multiply that by a factor of 100.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    I wish you and your Team success. It is unfortunate that a man of your talent is not given the post of Secretary of State, otherwise an agreement "would be signed in about 30 minutes" anytime soon.

    You should run the US presidential election next term because there is a good chance for a talented man like you to become the next US President.

    If democracy fails to get the best man (you are one of them) to serve the country after so much money from taxpayers is wasted in each election, it is certainly something wrong with the political system.

    You may share your valuable opinions on democracy at http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=341617
     
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    I have absolutely ZERO interest for running for any political office.

    Funny enough....the fact this is so insulates me from those who would use any information that would be detrimental to anyone running for office.

    You see most people who are not in the thick of things but are on the side lines are the ones using such actions as jumping pads to run for office.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    What a great LOSS for America!
     

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