Jeremy Corbyn elected Labour leader in stunning victory

Bush was a progressive? Interesting. If you're referring to Obama's inability to reduce the debt all I can say is that be sure to let us know when you've found a way of stopping a supertanker on a dime-short of sinking it.

 

Some of the big progressives were Republican like Nixon. The left does not recognize Bush as a progressive because of the war but socially, he was progressive. He increased drug benefits and reduced taxes on the lowest run including taking 5% off the federal tax role altogether while making the tax structure even more progressive. Some will never see that only because they don't want to believe it. Bush was just as responsible for creating the Tea Party as Obama was. Bush, after disappointing true conservatives, an even worse socialist would not be good. Of course the left did what it always does by trying to paint everything in terms of race.

 

Agree. It's a tendency. There is a need for change. But so far I don't see what kind of change people really want. There is no sane and nation-wanted initiative that needs to be implemented by politicians. This is scary to be honest.
Corbyn looks different, to me he seems more as a lefty. A kind of old good socialists without any libertatianity. But I cannot imagine the real return to the times of 70s.
Trump to me is a typical billionaire. He would completely destroy all the leftist initiatives of Obama and make a sharp turn to the right. So it really looks like 'mirror image'. Simultaneous. Alike. But different in nature.

It would be extremely interesting if these 'different' candidates will face 'the same' rival in the final and lose... When the show is over it will be more meaningful I hope.

 

The dude who two weeks ago labeled the assassination of Osama Bin Laden a "tragedy" in a interview to Iranian PressTV?

Hmm, you may be right, Britain may be changing...at the very least the British left is getting more lunatic and radical.

 

To be honest he may be right, the assassination of bin Laden did nothing but just motivate radicals. Making someone a martyr always does that.

 

This is something that worries me the most. People of the ME culture are extremely non-attractive. But without the way to integrate them to a cultural western project the whole concept of globalisation fails. And that is not a problem of ME. It's a problem of EU and the world.

A knight needs a castle (which definetely makes sense) but nowadays the castles won't last long holding chosen minorities from the problems of poor majority. They are doomed to fall like Roman Empire did under the consistent attacks of barbarians. I am afraid that the philosophy of being chosen and advanced by the right of birth and citizenship can easily transform into a cultural tradition of the 30-40s. This threat is much more destructive than facing a challenge of invasion of a million or two differnt people who have nothing to lose.

 

I suspect the life of Osama bin Laden, his successful 9/11 attack which murdered 3000 americans and the fact that he went unpunished for more than a decade was a by far stronger motivator for muslim radicals than the just retribution for his crime that eventually caught up with him. Better late than never.

Regardless, this dude Corbyn's rational why it was a tragedy was entirely different. He claimed Bin Laden should have been arrested instead. And that was in an inverview to an Iranian government media outlet, no less - music to the fundamentalists' and terrorists' ears.

 

Again, he was right for the very same reason Russia sent people to Gulags instead of executing them outright so they could not become martyrs. That is just my opinion.

 

The Bush disaster in Iraq has caused a lot of Americans and Brits to turn inward.

 

I wouldn’t be surprised if collaborators from within the Labour party now conspire to topple him. It can be done and there were party members making noises about it just a week or two ago. If they were to do that then I think it would backfire and put even more people off voting Labour. But I think they may try anyway.

 

But if they don't get rid of him, this election of a radical ultra-leftist/socialist leader will also put even more people off voting Labour. The Labour party has shown its true colors and is royally screwed no matter what they do now.

 

Okay, well assuming they do not topple him then I still don’t think he will ever be PM. He’s already old. Its 5yrs until the next election.

 

He is no more electable than George Galloway is regardless of his age. That the Labour party has shown its true colors by overwhemlingly electing this ultra-leftist extremist is the real problem of the Labour party, not his personal electability.

 

At least he doesn't wear that daft hat.

 

Extremist? Not even close; he is pretty much classic Labour party as opposed to the Blairite, Conservative-lite nouveau-riche of the last lot.

 

Corbyn is not Israel friendly. In Borat's book that makes him an extremist immediately. The man just got elected, the smear campaign instantly started. More of it to come.

 

Anti-monarchy, anti-austerity, defender of Putin, ISIS, Hamas and Hezbollah, anti-Nato, anti-Britain's nuclear deterrent, anti-Falklands War...


Jeremy Corbyn is the most radical Labour leader in the party's history.

The veteran left-winger does not merely advocate a return to 1970s-style socialism, the re-opening of the mines and nationalisation of all public utilities.

Mr Corbyn also opposes Nato, Britain's nuclear deterrent and any controls on immigration.

He refused to support the Falklands War, backed the right of Iraqi insurgents to target British troops and, more recently, has defended Vladimir Putin, ISIS and Palestinian terrorists.


Mr Corbyn has also been repeatedly questioned about his associations with Islamist extremists and Holocaust deniers, and comparing Western foreign policy with terrorism.

Last month Mr Corbyn lost his temper during a radio interview when asked why he hosted an event with Dyab Abou Jahjah, a Lebanese-born firebrand who celebrated the killing of British soldiers in Iraq.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...dinary-views-Labour-s-radical-new-leader.html


Snake, I hate to break it to you but if he looks mainstream and reasonable in your book it's the ultimate confirmation that he belongs with extreme radical left.

 

"Defender of ISIS"? Evidence please. As for the others I'm in complete agreement-and he is not in favour of uncontrolled immigration. The Falklands War was a joke; a useless few rocks in the middle of nowhere which the serially egotistic Thatcher used as an electioneering platform, killing hundreds in the process. Nuclear deterrent? Don't make me laugh. Who are we supposed to be deterring? If you don't consider the wholly pointless Iraq war, and its inevitable consequences as a recruiting sergeant for radical lunatics, as an act of terrorism then you are in serious need of a reality check.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/sep/12/what-does-jeremy-corbyn-think

 

Corbyn is also talking dangerous talk about printing our own money and essentially factoring out the international banking mafia ™. That's not going to sit well with usurers.

 

Exactly and these are not mainstream British views, these are the views of the extreme radical left.

While the UK, just like most of Europe has become a leftist country, I doubt the transformation of the mainstream Labour Party into Galloway's RESPECT will find a lot of support among the majority of the British public. Not that I personally care, as far as I am concerned Britannia is about as important on the international scene as Mauritania and it's totally irrelevant who rules it

 

you mean the one Obama is looking to triple before he leaves office?

 

So why are you here panicking?

 

You can't stop a supertanker on a dime. It took 10 years and a world war to lift America out of the '29 depression.

 

Really? I think you need to come up with some real evidence of what you perceive to be 'mainstream British views'. As I recall you don't live here. While you're at it tell us how relevant Kazakhstan is in the big picture...

 

I wonder if he’ll try to make Galloway part of his team. Galloway has been whoring himself to all and sundry ever since his election loss earlier this year. Even spoke about becoming Mayor of London, although that didn’t seem to get anywhere as he’s not one of the formal contenders.