Jeremy Corbyn elected Labour leader in stunning victory

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    Just commenting, expressing my disgust with the British lunatic left if you will, certainly not punicking :)
     
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    Wee Jimmy Krankie probably won’t be happy. I’d imagine that Corbyn may win back some Scottish Labour voters who had voted SNP last time over.
     
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    The real evidence was expressed by the British public just a few months ago during the last general election when a Conservative government majority government was elected and the reasonably centrist Labour party had the worse performance in 30 years. Responding with the election of the most radical socialist extremist Labour leader ever is hardly going to get them more vote going forward. Certainly anti-monarchy, anti-Nato, anti-Falklands, pro-virtually unlimited immigration etc views are not mainstream in the UK.

    PS Kazakhstan is most definitely not in the big picture, never was. The UK on the other hand was in fact relevant, it no longer is.
     
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    by only 24% of the electorate.
     
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    The conservatives won 24 seats, the Laubor lost 26 and that was with a moderate mainstream leader. The election of this extremist radical lunatic as the leader of the Labour party has rendered it unelectable for decades. It's now competeting for votes with RESPECT, not with the Tories
     
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    He’s only one man, an elderly one at that, so I wouldn’t get too excited. Good luck to him for overcoming the odds and lots of back stabbing to become leader, good luck to him surviving the back stabbers that will likely try to oust him ASAP. He’s going to need it.

    The voting system itself is a joke. About 3.5million people voted for UKIP and they got one MP. Less people voted for the SNP and they got 56MP’s.
     
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    Labour lost 40 seats in Scotland alone so if you are correct they gained them in England.

    No Labour is not competing with respect. It is responding to it's members.

    Now as to the election, the Nasty Party who won did so on a disgusting platform of xenophobia trying and succeeding with some in creating Jockophobia in England. I could add a few other errors with ease but Paul Mason describes some pertinent mistakes which led to Labours defeat http://blogs.channel4.com/paul-mason-blog/jeremy-corbyns-victory-party-leads/4231

    Now the Nasty Party won with only 24% of the vote of the electorate. I think around 30% did not vote. If they are woken up Labour could have a landslide!! Be scared. Be very scared!
     
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    It's become the same thing. There is no difference between the parties and not because Respect moderated its views but because the Labour turned into radical socialist left.

    And the Labour led by a mainstream leader got a fraction of that.

    That's if they wake up and unanimously vote for a party led by a radical extremist/socialist with anti-Nato, anti-Falklands, anti-monarchy, pro-unrestricted immigration, pro-terrorist leader. Do you think that's even remotely likely that having gotten a tiny fraction of the votes of those who voted, they would all of a sudden get a landslide among those who did not?

    As I said, I don't care much, if the UK stops being America's most obedient lapdog (which will never happen btw) it will be as relevant as Mauritania.
     
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    It is Wonderful to witness the British Labor (oops, Labour) Party become
    The Labour Party again.
    Anti Austerity.
    Anti War.
    Pro Invest In Britain.

    We can only hope the American, Democratic Party likewise, becomes the Democratic Party again;
    abandoning centrist, corporationist, RepubloCratic obedience to the monied.

    Across the West, We Have Witnessed Decades of "One Party" with two wings, Rule.
    Austerity, Wars that are NOT our business, a lack of investing in the nation.
    Bravo Brit Labour.
    Y'done so good I grant you your unnecessary, extra, "u".

    But the Banks are Made of Marble with a guard at every door.
    [video=youtube;x-o3CJytIPE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-o3CJytIPE&index=3&list=PL-5-LmO6TPK6OXMal8GqTzKbRenWh5d68[/video]
    LISTEN. IT HAPPENED BEFORE AND WAS FIXED WITHOUT REVOLUTION


    Moi :oldman:


    r > g



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    Actually no, but I do know you do not know very much on this. Labour actually increased it's vote and the Tories only won by 12 seats. 12 seats won by fear of the Scots!!!!! We do not expect them to last this Parliament.

    Labour did too much spin to win. People like Corbyn because he means what he says and they like what he says.

    It begins now. ;)
     
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    Good luck, you will need a ton of it to supplement wishful thinking :D
     
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    Wishful thinking does not get over 540,000 members, affiliates etc of Labour voting for Corbyn with 59.5% majority in the first vote against three established opponents. The will of the people did,
     
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    Correct me if I am wrong but 540,000 is almost precisely a whopping 1% of the British voting age population, isn't it? I am afraid you are going to need much more than that in the general election. I am not sure if luck will help but you do seem to be relying on wishful thinking instead to get those remaining 11,000,000 or so votes that you'd need to win. In fact with this radical ultra-leftist turn the party has taken it will be very lucky to get 9,000,000 more votes just to repeat the abysmal performance of 2015.
     
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    No, the problem lies with your misunderstanding again. The 540,000+ are those who chose to vote if I have my figures correct. 76% of those eligible to vote, voted and of those who voted 59.5% voted for Corbyn on the first vote which was more than voted for Blair. Obviously if Labour get 59.5% of those who vote at the election they will have a landslide.This does not happen in the UK although current polls have the SNP heading for an over 60% win in the Scottish election next year.

    What people are talking about is that it is the end of New Labour, of Blairiteism, that Labour is moving to the left and that Labour recognises that people are wanting genuineness not spin from them. Labour is also talking about going back to it's old ways of working by being with people, listening to them, being heckled rather than the now normal spin public meetings with an invited audience who say what the party want. We will wait to see how it develops but it looks like Britain for the first time in thirty years may have a credible opposition, helped at the moment by the SNP. One which will make people aware about this country going against International Law. One which will begin to work for all of it's people rather than just the elite and start to end the brutal inequality and lack of social mobility in this country - where already our poverty is sinking to an absolute level and people have died when being put on sanctions of their benefits.

    An effective Corbyn Government is probably the only thing which has a chance of keeping the UK together so I have nothing to lose whether he is successful or not. One way or another I will be living in a country which goes by International Law and is democratic. I hope for the people of England that Corbyn can bring that there.

    You can see Sturgeon's recognition of the possible threat he may pose by her statement on what she thought of the result

    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/201...corbyn-tories_n_8127676.html?ir=UK+Po litics

    It doesn't make much difference to me. However it will for England. Doors which were shut have been opened and I doubt they will close.

    Of course Corbyn will need to work hard to sort out all the corruption that is currently in British Politics.

    [video=youtube;o6PZlRVIhVk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=5&v=o6PZlRVIhVk[/video]
     
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    Good article by BellaCalednia on his win

    http://bellacaledonia.org.uk/2015/09/12/corbyn-victory-a-great-boost-for-labour/
     
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    Probably because he is a strong supporter of Stop The War
     
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    China is in difficulties already. We are reaching the end of Global Capitalism which does not mean in any way going back to old methods of socialism or even giving up a fair system which includes capitalism.
     
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    except he never said that.
     
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    Your assuming everyone is is further to the right than the Conservative Party of Britain could have thought ever possible 40 years ago. Things go in cycles. It is time for Britain to stop further movement to the far right and Corbyn is the very person to do this.
     
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    It'll be particularly hard for Corbyn when the Tories get around to making the boundary changes.
     
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    China's problems are not based on capitalism but central control that tried to create an economy through construction, then tried to convince the populous that investment in the stock market could not fail.
     
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    In a clip from the Press TV show the Agenda, Corbyn is heard complaining that there had been “no attempt whatsoever that I can see to arrest him and put him on trial, to go through that process”. He went on: “This was an assassination attempt, and is yet another tragedy, upon a tragedy, upon a tragedy.

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics...a-bin-laden-should-have-been-tried-not-killed


    That's from the Guardian, the favorite rag of the radical left, no less. But you already knew he said that, didn't you, you think too that the assassination of Bin Laden was a tragedy and just like Corbyn you realize that these extremist views are a hard sell to the British general public beyond those few hundred thousand activists who voted for him in these Labor party elections
     

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