John Kelly speech on the infamous phone call debacle

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  1. truth and justice

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    It's Trump reaction after the event that is the biggest embarrassment for your country. A normal person in his position would have been the bigger person and just apologised for the misunderstanding instead of accusing everyone else of lying. If he had shown some humility, he would have received sympathy from the likes of people like me who would hate to be put in a position of comforting someone who had lost a special person.
     
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    You should watch the video...... You are wrong.. and general Kelly lied.
     
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    Police and doctors do that daily
     
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    Mrlucky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Educate yourself
     
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    Wilson is a liar. And all your post has done is to prove why the family is carrying Wilsons water.

    Do you think this family, close personal friends of Wilson, would go against anything she said?

    Wilson is a certified nut job who has disgraced her office and used the death of an American Hero to push her twisted and psychotic agenda.

    It amazes me anyone would hitch their star to that kind of thing.
     
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    Try that yourself. And what about the other 3 white soldiers? No reply from any leftists here, in the MSM or Wilson, the real racist, not Kelly or Trump. Educate yourself and stop being so sanctimonious and hateful.

    Now, Congresswoman Wilson says she wasn’t in Congress early enough to secure the funding. However, she did take credit for getting the building named for the FBI agents. She called General Kelly a “liar” for his characterization of her comments.

    read:http://ijr.com/the-declaration/2017...ding-miami-fbi-agents-one-line-really-sticks/
     
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    What are you on? She never claimed that she had anything to do with the funding! As for the naming of the building she gave most of the credit to Rubio and other Republicans
     
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    I don't understand why he would continue to push a lie when the video is available.
     
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    Margot would love that

    Then she couls scream that trump does not care about dead soldiers
     
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    I think kelly misspoke about the funding but not wilson was taking credit for naming the building so he was only half wrong
     
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    The word is not misspoke, the word is lied. Also Wilson gave the credit to Rubio and other Republicans. She said all she did was pass the request onto those who could expedite the request.
     
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    She didn't take credit.. watch the video.. Is this a partisan issue for you?

    I am very disappointed in Kelly. He shouldn't have attacked Wilson in his effort to smooth over what Trump said.
     
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    Don't be stupid.. Trump is a crappy communicator even on a good day.. and he has ZERO empathy.
     
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    Yes, Trump did call the other 3 solders families. Here is the account of Arnold Wright, father of Staff Sgt. Dustin Wright.

    http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/1...killed-in-niger-recounts-his-call-with-trump/

    You are over your head due to narrow mindedness and hate perpetrated by Wilson and MSM. The press has repeatedly mischaracterized and overblown this entire incident.

    Although all 4 of these soldiers served honorably, you may have noticed Johnson's maroon beret. That signifies that he completed 4 weeks of airborne jump school. The 3 other soldiers were Green Beret Special Forces, Johnson's beret signifies that he was attached and probably assigned to a Special Forces unit, but in a support role and is not Special Forces qualified.

    I point out this fact as just one of many that the press has gotten dead wrong.
     
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    The WH transcipt of Trump's call to the young widow is verbatim what the 4 people in the limo heard.
     
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    Trump just tried to say people other then the family listening in on the call was unacceptable.... but then followed it up with John Kelly listened in and many others on his end - lol

    of course we know from video sense released by others called, it's normal for the Master Sergeant to play the call on speaker phone to the friends and family
     
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    that is why they are now trying to attack her on listening in on a private call...
     
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    That's even more stupid. She was in the limo with several other people on the way to meet the arrival of the body.
     
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    the right is off their rocker defending Trump on his actions after this call

    Kelly's comments were fine up till the point he made the false accusations attacking the Congress women, for that he should apologize

    if I was the congress women, I would go public and apologize to Trump and say, were sorry if the family and I mistook what he said during their time of grief of the loss of a loved one, be the first time ever the friends and family of a deceased loved one that made the ultimate sacrifice for the country had to apologize to the President to make him feel better
     
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    Which means nothing except that Wilson is a vindictive loose cannon. What Trump said was true. He called Johnson's wife to express sincere condolences. In his own words, he expressed the fact that Johnson volunteered for dangerous duty. He knew what he was getting into but was killed serving his country honorably. Only a hate filled person with a motive to discredit the president, like Wilson would misconstrue the meaning of what Trump said.

    None of the other soldiers families Trump has called has expressed anything but gratitude. Not the soldiers killed in Niger or other soldiers killed elsewhere. Trump has called soldiers of all colors. None have reacted and politicized his calls except Johnsons wife, because of Wilson. She needs to be recalled. She is the racist and a disgrace.
     
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    well he has not called many, one he called said he promised him 25k, but forgot to send it, sad

    that opens it's own can of worms though as now other gold star families will wonder why Trump felt their loved one was worth less to Trump then other gold star families
     
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    Maybe to you and any other leftist who can't see the forest for the trees. The media as usual has warped this incident into a another circus event. There actually are news worthy stories they are failing report. This is a media diversion. Now it's time to play the race card. What's next?
     
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    so you think it's ok to promise a gold star family 25k and forget to send it until the media has to remind him?
     
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    President Trump promised to personally donate $25,000 to the father of a fallen soldier and create an online fundraiser for the soldier’s family but didn't follow through, The Washington Post reported Wednesday.

    Trump told Chris Baldridge, whose son was killed in Afghanistan in June, that he would “write you a check out of my personal account for $25,000,” Baldridge told the Post.

    “I could not believe he was saying that, and I wish I had it recorded because the man did say this,” Baldridge said. “He said, ‘No other president has ever done something like this,’ but he said, ‘I’m going to do it.’ ”

    White House spokeswoman Lindsay Walters later told the Post that the check "has been sent."

    "It’s disgusting that the media is taking something that should be recognized as a generous and sincere gesture, made privately by the president, and using it to advance the media’s biased agenda," she said.

    This is yet another example of how far the media is willing to cause further divide with hate.

    It took 18 months for President Barack Obama to fulfill a similar promise made to the family of Kayla Mueller, who was killed in 2015 while she was held captive by the Islamic State in Syria. Obama’s undisclosed sum, for a charity set up in Mueller’s name, arrived only after a report by ABC News called attention to what the president later described as an oversight.

    A spade for a spade.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...bar&tid=a_breakingnews&utm_term=.4a097fff2f85

     

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