John Kelly speech on the infamous phone call debacle

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  1. Mrlucky

    Mrlucky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    She needs to apologize for disrespecting the President of the United States and so does the media.
     
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    No I think he misspoke

    First be ause he's an honest man

    But even if he wasnt he's not stupid and knows the event was recorded
     
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    She did take credit for spearheading the namechange through congress

    But I also concede that her speech was not as bad as kelly remembered it
     
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    Ha!

    Of couse hou will bash trump either way no matter what
     
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    Right. So the minutes of the 9 or so the video the Sun Sentinel posted runs doesn't have her taking credit for ramming the naming bill through Congress? Exactly what was she referring to when she said, "Oh, hell no" from the podium? What did she talk about after making that statement?
     
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    You've read it? Please post it.
     
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    There is a transcript of Trump's controversial call to Sgt. Johnson's ...
    ThinkProgress-Oct 20, 2017
    Frederica Wilson lying about President Trump's call to Sgt. La David T. Johnson's ... There is, according to Lara Trump, a transcript of the conversation. Lara ... Post, adding that Wilson's account of the phone call was accurate.

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    A rundown of the Kelly-Trump-Sanders-Wilson phone call scandal
    In-Depth-Salon-12 hours ago
     
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    You posted this statement:

    "The WH transcipt of Trump's call to the young widow is verbatim what the 4 people in the limo heard."​

    I added the bold and underline. You claim the transcript is verbatim what the 4 people in the limo heard.

    Please post the transcript to back your "verbatim" claim.
     
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    This is what she said: "Well, from what I've seen, this is just a clear case of the media not doing their job. Whenever you read exactly what he said, he said your husband went into battle, you know, knowing that he could be injured, knowing that he could be killed, and he still did it because he loved his country and did it for the American people," Lara Trump responded.

    She never said she saw any transcript. Why would she? She doesn't work tor the WH.

    Salon is not a credible source. Incredibly stupid but not credible. Just more deflection and the usual Trump hate.
     
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    The lack of empathy of so many trump supporters demonstrate is pathetic. But I suppose its not all that surprising given how the "follow the leader" mentality works amongst the branded.

    Wilson didn't lie. But Trump and Kelly both did and those refusing to accept this FACT are partisan toadies.
     
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    Sounds like a CNN talking head who learned a new buzz word. NO Empathy? Throw a fake hysterical tantrum now, as seen on TV!
     
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    Of course she did. She lied and embellished. For example, it seems quite obvious she never asked for the phone to cuss out the President. Why would she need to ask? The call was on speakerphone, all she had to do was open her mouth.

    So, why should anyone accept lies? Do you accept lies? It appears you do.

    Why do you think the Gold Star wife of another fallen hero released a video of her conversation with President Trump?

    Finally, what do you think this dead hero would think of Wilson, and sadly, his Mother, using his sacrifice to promote Wilson's psychotic agenda?
     
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    You got that the wrong way around.

    It was trump who decided to make this tragic event political. He was the one that started it.

    He was the one that called Johnson's widow as she was on the way to the airport to pick up her husband's body.

    Trump made it political and Wilson in her own grief gave it right back to him. I have found that whenever trump and his followers get caught out they display zero empathy, ignore human nature, and hypocritically attack, with projection being a major component of the attack.

    Take for instance the "another gold star wife" video as defense for the INEPT performance of trump in this particular instance.
    The fact that some idiots actually buy this as a legitimate defense is indicative of the stupidity of blind partisanship.
    If it weren't for fallacies, trump supporters would have virtually no tools to defend their dear leader.
     
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    A post that sounds much like those that come from partisan bumpersticker regurgitators. Long on negative emotion short on fact or content. Ideal for the less intellectual partisan to lap up.
     
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    LOLOL.. More Trump.. He claims to have an original Renoir painting called Two sisters on a terrace, but that painting has been hanging in a Chicago museum since 1933.. Trump has crippling insecurities...
     
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    Although you have vaporized any credibility you think you have by the contents of your last sentence, I'll respond.

    Wilson is the one who used the death of a fallen hero to push her psychotic Hate Trump obsession. Nobody would know such a call took place without Wilson's warped brain triggering her to contact her MSM partners to spread her lies.

    No rationally thinking person would attempt to suggest otherwise because that is exactly what happened.

    The fact you're dodging the intent of the other Gold Star Widow confirms where on that rational scale your opinion belongs.

    I asked why she released the video, not what it's been used for. Must be difficult to ponder that.
     
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    I saw that yesterday. So is Trump going to either (a) say that he was duped, or (b) insist that his is the original, or (c) say that he never said his was the original.

    I wonder how much insurance premium was paid on it :)
     
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    I find it inconceivable that someone can go through life with their guts in a knot and their brains on fire 24/7, like you.
     
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    Well, what actually happened was first lyin' donnie made it political when he opened his lyin' mouth in response to a legitmate fake news question about why he hadn't made any public comments about the attack in Niger. In true trump fashion he responded by lyin' about other presidents and his own actions. He followed that up by throwing Kelly out there to lie on his behalf.

    But thank you for demonstrating your definition of rational is actually irrational.

    What's difficult to ponder is how you could possibly think that every call to every widow is the same or that every interaction is uniform regardless of circumstance and that because a call was well recieved means that a widow who did not receive the call well was lyin'. I call that a stupid logical fallacy. But as I have said all along, if it weren't for fallacies racists and trump supporters wouldn't have many coherent arguments.
     
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    Let's start with this. Please provide a complete list of every condolence call President Obama made. Let's start with the Kelly family. So much for your claims about "lyin".

    And again, you dodge the question I asked. Why did the Gold Star widow release the video of her conversation with President Trump. What was her motive? Not interested in reading more of your denials and excuses.

    How did the Nation learn of President Trumps phone call to the mother of Sgt. La David Johnson?

    Seems to me all you got is the same type of psychotic obsessions that the vile piece of excrement representing Florida suffers from.

    Can't imagine what this fallen hero would think about people using his ultimate sacrifice to push their warped agenda.
     
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    Yep. Time Lines Matter.


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    Yes lets start with a stupid request and then dismiss a claim that has nothing to do with the request int he first palce.

    You seem totally confused. The other widow received a call in which trump didn't stick his foot in it and she was honored and grateful for the call. I would suggest her motivation was to show america that lyin' donnie can get it right sometimes.

    BUT that has nothing to do with his screw up. It wasn't intentional on his part, it was a verbal blunder.
    Not that he could possible admit it and true to form couldn't possibly be the bigger person and engaged in a puerile twitter blizzard.

    Well I should defer to your far more personal and intimate knowledge of psychotic obsessions.

    I think he'd be mad as hell that Trump upset his wife on her way to pick up his body.
    I think he'd be sad as hell that Trump demonstrated he is an unfit CIC.
    I think he'd be disgusted by people like you who lament about making this political while making it political and compeltely forgeting that Trump started this embarssing clustermuck.

    Why am I not surprise you'd lack imagination in this regard? yep got it in one.
     
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    The release of a video of a Trump contact with a gold star widow is contrived.

    Its a stunt by Trump to divert attention from his mistakes.
     

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