Judge Saves Little Girl from Obama Admin's Incredible Evil

Horrible analogy. It would be more like two people standing there and the Govt deciding who should be shot. I guess you guys want the Govt to make decisions on who lives and dies.

 

I am relieved to see that many conservatives in this thread agree that there is a reason for this rule and it shouldn't be changed simply because dying children make bad press.

Can anyone in here tell me how they think available organs should be allocated? Can we all at least agree that there has to be some basis to determine how they should be allocated? Is it really unreasonable to allocate available organs by the chance that the patient will 1) survive the operation, and 2) make a full recovery?

 

not sure what you mean, are you saying so many more can now afford to get lung transplants under Obama care that some might not be able to as there is not enough lungs available?

 

"Arizona Death Panel Claims Another Victim"

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2011/01/05/arizona-death-panel-claims-another-victim/

 

Sweet mother of god, I've never read such utter drivel!

 

"Such decisions are best left to medical professionals, not politicians or judges."

"The Organ Procurement and Transplantation Network treats children under 12 as a separate pool from adolescents and adults because it is hard to fit a larger lung in the chest of a child."


OPTN was founded in 1984.
I cannot find when the exact date that the Adult/Child transplant list specifications were created/implemented.

Is this a suggestion that these "rules" were created from the Obama administration, rather than OPTN/Medical professionals?

 

Orwell had the right idea he just missed the date by 30 years

government deciding who deserves health care, spying in it's citizens, secret judge decisions.

I used to think this was all just a bunch of tinfoil hat wearing kooks preaching this but damn I don't see it happening every day now in the front page

 

You are missing the point. The "line" was set up into two age groups by the gov't and was outdated. Younger people get first crack at organs because they have a better chance to survive over say an aging baby-boomer alcoholic rock star.

 

How? They are a private company selling a service. They are not the taxpayer supported gov't arrogantly refusing to address their outdated policy even though a child's life was at stake, The Obama admin showed America exactly what they are capable of. We do not want these people in charge of out mail delivery let alone our medical care.

 

They are. They have decided that New York home owners can only have seven rounds in their home defense guns. They have decided that if you need more than seven, you die.


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This had nothing to do with Obamacare. But it made a nice story for right trash media to game its audience by making false associations and recycling old lies.

 

This is where the radical right is now.

They can't support a decent argument with facts. So they babble code words, vitriol and sensationalism they pick up out of trash blogs and talk radio (and Fox, talk radio with pictures).

These people are not an informed audience., and they don't want to be.

Drivel functions well for them.

 

All the way from the womb up to about 12 liberals seem to have no problem with killing the young.

 

This is rather a stretch.

Are you a doctor? There are many reasons why certain criteria are setup for organ transplants, because if it goes wrong and the organs are wasted as a result then not only have you potentially doomed the ill fated recipient, but you may have caused the death of a better suited candidate for said organs. There are so many factors that go into determining who gets a transplant and they are determined by medical professionals.

See this for some information on who sets transplant policy:

http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2013/06/12/good-question-who-writes-the-organ-donation-rules/

Wow, this process originated back in Ronny Raygun Reagan's era, maybe this should be titled "Girl saved from Reagan's Evil" instead?

This process has been setup by people who do transplants, not some mystical Obama panel. Go home and read up on reality.

 

I know that you are trying to protect the hideous OBama admin from their evil actions, but it won't work.

What I found amazing is that in a time of multiple major scandals, the Obama admin was STILL too inflexible to save a little girl from certain death and avoid another scandal. This is one sick bunch of people with a God complex. I'm glad that I never voted for these scumbags.

On a good note, the girl is likely to recover much to the disappointment of the Obama supporters. And, the reptilian
Sebelius may be removed for illegal activities.

 

The painful fact for the Left is that this little girl is going to live, when the Obama admin decided that she should die. That is what has the Left upset. They do not like their power being checked.
The little girl means nothing to them.

 

Imagine, a progressive in charge of a lifeboat armed with an IRS version of the deadly AR-15. How quickly decisions would be made about who got to swim for it and who stayed on the boat.
Now, add George Soros and a 12 year old girl with a leg wound floundering in the water. There is only room for one more.........

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Doesn't the gov't have a responsibility to stay current on medical procedures? That is the issue here, if you had been reading the posts.

 

I'm just curious as to why your Boy King didn't publicly weigh in on trying to save this one child's life? He hasn't been shy about exploiting all manner of previous "injustices" for political expedience and agenda........ "acted stupidly", "tone down the rhetoric", "if I had a son", "you didn't build that", and of course Sandy Hook....

and I suspect it's because FEDERAL REGULATORY intervention in medical procedures is something a state collectivist central planner like himself fully supports...but as this case might have carried some negative political ramifications, he didn't want to get his hands dirty.

 

Hahahahahaha!!!!!! Explain yourself.

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This bodes ill for us. The Obama admin does not want the gov't's health policy questioned by peasants like this girl's parents. Better that she die and they be made an example of. That's how evil this administration is.

 

It is telling that the progressives are defending the Obama admin on this one.

 

I get the point.

There was a rule. Many people needing a lung were following the rule. This kid trashes the rule at SOMEONE'S EXPENSE. It's a zero sum game.

Who lost? Where's the compassion for that poor bastard?

This is Fox Noise BS (which I never watch).

 

The board that determines transplant policy is made up of doctors, and transplant recipients.

There's also the fact that state, and national rules don't always jive, so you have the added complication that not all regions play nice together. Although in the case of a lung or heart, the distance from the donor to recipient is critical due to the delicacy of the organs themselves and that they don't transport well.

There are literally thousands of people waiting for organs every day, and no where near enough to go around. I disagree with the judge getting involved, he may have as well written the girls death notice as much as saved her. Early prognosis looks good, but with organ transplants it can take a while to see if it's really a success and the organs aren't rejected.

 

Wasn't it the family's fault for not having adequate health coverage and the public's fault for not making enough organ donations? Just why is Obama's administration more culpable?

 

The network is making changes to their policies. This is a necessary change.

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When were these rules formed? How many years ago? Was there an appeals process for teens? Why not?