Julian Assange seeks asylum in Ecuador...-tk3

Not even close. He's sets one foot out of that embassy he's arrested and this time he stays in custody.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/jun/20/assange-risks-arrest-london-embassy

 

He may well face arrest but an individual with diplomatic immunity cannot be prosecuted, I am given to believe. He could well be deported- to Ecuador if things go as planned.

 

All of our governments have been too close to America ever since we turned towards them and away from Britain out of necessity. Politically we're their (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)es, hopefully that will start to end as we focus more on the Asia-pacific.

 

Having a Premier who spoke fluent Mandarin sure upset a lot of capitalists with plenty to lose.

 

googling yourself? tsk tsk tsk anyway...

South Koreans thank every imaginary god possible every fricking minute for that division. The bare thought that South Korea could be under a Communist Monarchy that brainwashes and starve their own people is a disgusting one.
They're now one of the most successful countries in Asia, a shame North Korean people weren't given the choice for the same path.

 

Come on now, let's be serious, America is not even in the same league as North Korea.

The human rights record of the USA, is certainly no worse than any other comparable power, and better than most.

The British Empire's human rights record is undoubtedly worse, so is most of Europe's, and Australia's is certainly nothing to boast about.

I think probably New Zealand is the only country I can think of that has a half decent history of human rights.

 

Lol... Just because you read it in the guardian on the internet don't make it true... They're quoting London metro police and they are wrong in this... Once he's granted asylum in embassy grounds then he's entitled to passage out of the country...
If that wasn't the case then why would anyone appeal for asylum at any embassy..?

 

Lol... Did you get your law degree off a cornflake box? Britain is under no obligation to allow a fugitive free passage outside the embassy confines. He is now in breach of his bail conditions and subject to arrest.
The longest ever embassy stay was some 15 years or so.

 

So, because I don't know about some random singer, I'm "amerignorant"? You're getting desperate at this point.

What political dissidence has been blocked on the web here? Share with me the name of this person, and I'll prove you wrong. Until then, you're just making baseless accusations.

 

Let's take a look at the "facts" you've mentioned in this thread. You claimed that North Korea has a better human rights record than America by looking at people killed in wars by us. If you can't comprehend the difference between oppressing people in every facet of life during peacetime (North Korea) and people dying during war, then I don't know what else to say.

The rules are different during war as compared to the everyday managing of society. Your logic really has no relevance to a discussion of human rights.

 

Sure, but that's basically a technicality. It's like saying that Americans bear no responsibility for the actions of colonists before the Revolution.

It is true that there are limits to how much of a connection can be drawn between the two, but for example, the first rulers of Australia were British settlers before they became known as Australian.

 

If you can't comprehend that America oppresses people by ripping their children apart in their living rooms in front of their eyes, from bombs dropped from 40,000 feet or now with predator drones controlled by a games console in California, while North Korea doesn't do that then you're just amerignorant...
If you don't know that North Korean workers had better pay and conditions than their cousins in the South right up till 1992 then you've been propagandised by the pentagon... Higher GDP per capita too...

 

American war is not "just people killed in war"... Hitler is generally counted responsible for killing over 45 million in Europe... How many people is America liable for..?

People killed in war are not "collateral damage"... That's oppression and American tyranny on a global scale... How many Koreans did America kill..? More Koreans than you did Japanese... That's oppression...

 

Western leaders has no say against tyrant USA, soon half of Europeans will be send to USA jails. Hura Europe politicians can't stand for own people.

 

I don't like the fact that we're as interventionist as we are. I don't like the fact that the situation in Afghanistan involves drone strikes that kill a lot of civilians, but the drone strikes wouldn't even happen if at least 1 of the 2 following things were true:

1) Pakistan actually had control over its rural areas.

2) The Taliban didn't raid Afghanistan and cross back and forth the border with Pakistan.

We're not bombing them for the hell of it.

And as for "pay conditions in South Korea until 1992", that was 20 years ago. Why not compare the 2 today?

 

Our jails are pretty full as it is. We'd rather not have to incarcerate people from other countries. Although I'm sure Russia knows all about high incarceration rates too. You're not as high as we are, but you are in the top 5.

 

You can look at it that way if you want to, but your government clearly doesn't see it that way. I guess that must be rather uncomfortable for you.

 

Because today North Korea is isolated by American sanctions... If it weren't then the living standard in North Korea today would still be higher...
Didn't you see how much the North Koreans missed their beloved leader..?

 

Excuses excuses... Like a German making excuses for the nazis killing Jews... What's your excuse for 60,000 NATO bombs and missiles dropped on Libya..? How many civilians did America kill their..? How about in Yemen..?

How many Indonesians did the CIA kill..?
No USA is definitely a human rights oppressor on the same scale as imperial Japan or nazi Germany... Been in power a lot longer too...

 

My govt..? I consider my govt betrays its people by the American alliance... Uncomfortable for me..?
Probly much more comfortable than those who fall under American bombs...

 

When did South Koreans get a choice..? South Koreans know who divided Korea, even if Americans don't know...
North Koreans who fall for the propaganda that Lee Myaeng Bak broadcasts across the DMZ all day and all night are nearly always disappointed when they get to the South...
If you think South Koreans had a choice then tell me about Kim Dae Jong and his Nobel Peace Prize for being democracy to the South...

 

The Amerignorance is shocking... Sure the British Empire is one of the worst, killing more than 100 million just in West Bengal by famine while exporting grain... Of course that was over more than a century...
How many millions has America killed just since ww2..?
1 in 5 Koreans, more Koreans killed in just 3 years of bombing than were killed in the entire period of the Japanese occupation... More Koreans killed than America killed Japanese...

 

Yes indeed they didn't have a choice, but that's no excuse for the Northern regime to punish its own people. The north koreans are the victims here, for the misfortune of having a communist leadership, which adding to the sanctions and USSR demise pay a higher price.
Worst thing is, unlike in the middle east, there won't be any uprising from the people, they're to weak and oblivious of their own disgraceful condition, but i bet that's fine with you, as long as they keep facing the US and sending billion dollars missiles to the japanese sea.

 

Which country holds between 20% and 25% of all the world's prisoners, yet has only 4.75% of global population..?
Which country holds the most foreign nationals and most foreign minors prisoner..? Which country has the highest imprisonment of its own population in the world..? Which country has the most prisons inside its own borders..? Which country has the most prisons outside its own borders...

Land of the Free..?

 

Who says the North Koreans are oppressing their own people..? Your lying propaganda machine..? Didn't you see how much the North Koreans mourned their beloved leader..?