Just got another message from God.

So you're essentially calling jedimiller a liar? Either that, or in true lib fashion you have a better grasp on the experiences of someone else than they do themselves.

 

I think I am entitled to say what I want to say, not what you would like me to discuss, as long as it's on topic and within the forum rules - my post clearly was both.

Care to address the possible explanations from a psychological viewpoint I have presented?

 

Yep, and you can be called on it.

Or is disagreement wrong when it comes back at you?

How about you respond to my points of view first? You made the claim that the treatment of Jedi was all kosher. Now back it up.

Please explain how questioning the mental status of others is a viable tactic that facilitates debate and honest, respectful discussion? How is it within the TOS to tell someone they have mental issues? Is such a diagnosis within the ability of a mental health professional without an examination?

That is how debate works.

Let's see if you are capable of doing what you demand of others.

 

That's called... you.

 

I just had a message enter my mind and I wrote it down. I have to remember to buy more bread.

 

Now god is talking to me again, she is whispering softly, "The rivers of blood from the arm of Vishnu will flow into Hades and meet those that denied Her in a boiling torment. Zeus has been displeased with the followers of Yahweh and will send 72 virgins to harass the unfaithful. Horus will follow them into oblivion, and the stench of their rotting souls will feed Cthulhu."

It's a shame some express disbelief.

 

About Schizophrenia

 

OK, let's start with the first part since it seems so difficult to actually do what Jedi asked and that is decipher. No, he didn't say please give me a psychiatric eval, or comment on the gender of the speaker, he was actually requesting an opinion on what it might mean, if you're into that type of thing.

Here, let me take a crack, watch!

Although it may seem that you have been abandoned I am here, grieved and waiting but still here.

 

The part that is ... questionable would be the one about something happening today, and that it will basically define failure?

That seems oddly specific? But too what?

 

Not sure, I have plenty of ideas, if we are to take Jedi's message seriously. But, it is interesting to note that an emissary of Qaddafi's flew into Athens today to discuss potential peaceful resolutions to the conflict in Libya.

 

That is interesting, I guess we'll see if it suceeds or fails?

 

Acts 17: Paul at Athens

16 Now while Paul was waiting for them at (AK)Athens, his spirit was being provoked within him as he was observing the city full of idols.

18 And also some of the Epicurean and Stoic philosophers were conversing with him. Some were saying, "What would this idle babbler wish to say?"

30"Therefore having overlooked the times of ignorance, God is now declaring to men that all people everywhere should repent,

31 because He has fixed a day in which He will judge the world in righteousness through a Man whom He has appointed, having furnished proof to all men by raising Him from the dead."

32 Now when they heard of the resurrection of the dead, some began to sneer,


Christianity 1st came to Greece thru the preaching of Paul, He reasoned with the philosophers who dominated Greek thought, and who after hearing him preach the basic truth of the Gospel, labeled him an 'idle babbler' and 'sneered' at him.

"And so, Jedi, altho it appears as a mountain B4 you and you cry out in long-suffering and even with anger, do not cease believing or let the seed within you die, for as Paul did preach the truth and was ridiculed for it, do not look down in shame, but lift your head, as you also are ridiculed for standing on the truth as he did. And let not your words or countenance betray you. For the unbelieving of this world will be judged in not too long

The overall thought being ....'keeping the faith and hope alive, when all appears futile."

 

I went to Evergreen for lunch last week, had a wonderful Chinese buffet, and as usual I opened up the complimentary fortune cookie. It said something about a 4 wheeled event would end up being good. Humorously, my wife and I had just been discussing the pros and cons of having our Jeep's engine replaced/rebuilt, new/used, and so on.

Was this the divine voice of god trying to tell me something - or simply a coincidence? How many of those fortunes were printed / How many people are having car problems?

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_who_have_claimed_to_be_Jesus

Wiki rocks

 

Well, the last 3 days I been keeping an eye on Athens...I wonder why it's so important to god?

 

I think he may be telling the truth. I just don't know if it's from Jesus. Maybe it's something else. Plenty of gods come from behind the mountains. Shamash, Ra, Ameratsu. My working theory on the first line is that Shamash is telling him to stop messing with Arabs. Your mileage may vary.

 

Please allow me to post the contents of your link, it's fabulous.

Nineteenth Century

* John Nichols Thom 1799–1838, Cornish tax rebel who claimed to be the "saviour of the world" and the reincarnation of Jesus Christ and his body temple of the Holy Ghost[citation needed] in 1834. He was killed by British soldiers at the Battle of Bossenden Wood, on May 31, 1838 in Kent, England.[1]

* Arnold Potter (1804–1872), Schismatic Latter Day Saint leader; he claimed the spirit of Jesus Christ entered into his body and he became "Potter Christ" Son of the living God, he died in an attempt to "ascend into heaven" by jumping off a cliff.[citation needed] His body was later retrieved and buried by his followers.[citation needed]

* Bahá'u'lláh (1817–1892), born Shiite, adopted Bábism later in 1844,[2] he claimed to be the prophetic fulfilment and promised one of all major religions and founded the Bahá'í Faith in 1866.[3] Followers of the Bahá'í Faith believe that the fulfillment of the prophecies of the second coming of Jesus, as well as the prophecies of the 5th Buddha Maitreya and many other religious prophecies, were begun by the Báb in 1844 and then by Bahá'u'lláh. They commonly compare the fulfillment of Christian prophecies to Jesus' fulfillment of Jewish prophecies, where in both cases people were expecting the literal fulfillment of apocalyptic statements.[4]

* William W. Davies (1833–1906), leader of a Latter Day Saint schismatic group called the Kingdom of Heaven located in Walla Walla, Washington from 1867 to 1881. He taught his followers that he was the archangel Michael, who had previously lived lives as the biblical Adam, Abraham, and David. When his son Arthur was born on 11 February 1868, Davies declared that the infant was the reincarnated Jesus Christ. When Davies's second son, David, was born in 1869, he was declared to be God the Father.[citation needed]

* Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian, India 1835–1908, claimed to be the awaited Mahdi as well as (Second Coming) and likeness of Jesus the promised Messiah at the end of time, being the only person in Islamic history who claimed to be both.[citation needed] He claimed to be Jesus in the metaphorical sense; in character. He founded the Ahmadiyya Movement in 1889 envisioning it to be the rejuvenation of Islam, and claimed to be commissioned by God for the reformation of mankind.[citation needed]


Twentieth Century

* Haile Selassie I (1892–1975), the Rastafari movement which emerged in Jamaica during the 1930s believes he is the Second Coming (although he himself did not encourage this belief).[citation needed] He embodied this when he became Emperor of Ethiopia in 1930, perceived as confirmation of the return of the Messiah in the prophetic Book of Revelation 5:5 in the New Testament but is also expected to return a second time to initiate the apocalyptic day of judgment. He is also called Jah Ras Tafari, and is often considered to be alive by Rastafari movement members.[5]

* George Ernest Roux (1903–1981), called the "Christ of Montfavet" or "Georges-Christ",[6] founder of the Universal Christian Church (now named the Universal Alliance) in France, claimed to be Jesus, then God. He presented himself as a persecuted prophet to carry out the law of love unfulfilled by God's representatives, including Jesus.[7]

* Ernest Norman (1904–1971), an American electrical engineer who co-founded the Unarius Academy of Science in 1954, was allegedly Jesus in a past life and his earthly incarnation was as an archangel named Raphiel.[8] He claimed to be the reincarnation of other notable figures including Confucius, Mona Lisa, Benjamin Franklin, Socrates, Queen Elizabeth I, and Tsar Peter I the Great.[9]

* Krishna Venta 1911-1958, born Francis Herman Pencovic in San Francisco, founded the WKFL (Wisdom, Knowledge, Faith and Love) Fountain of the World cult in Simi Valley, California in the late 1940s. In 1948 he stated that he was Christ, the new messiah and claimed to have led a convoy of rocket ships to Earth from the extinct planet Neophrates. He died on 10 December 1958 after being suicide bombed by two disgruntled former followers who accused Venta of mishandling cult funds and having been intimate with their wives.

* Ahn Sahng-Hong (1918–1985), a South Korean who founded the World Mission Society Church of God in 1964, who consider him the Second Coming of Jesus. The church believes that his wife Zahng Gil-Jah is "God the Mother," who they believe is referred to in the Bible as the New Jerusalem Mother (Galatians 4:26, and that Ahn Sahng-Hong is God the Father[10]

* Sun Myung Moon (1920–), believed by members of the Unification Church to be the Messiah and the Second Coming of Christ, fulfilling Jesus' unfinished mission.[11][12]

* Jim Jones 1931–1978, founder of Peoples Temple, which started off as an offshoot of a mainstream protestant sect before becoming a personality cult as time went on. He claimed to be the reincarnation of Jesus, Akhenaten, Buddha, Vladimir Lenin, and Father Divine in the 1970s. [13] Organized a mass murder suicide at Jonestown, Guyana on 18 November 1978.[14]

* Marshall Applewhite (1931–1997), an American who posted a famous Usenet message declaring, "I, Jesus—Son of God—acknowledge on this date of September 25/26, 1995: ..."[15] This was two years before he and his Heaven's Gate cult committed mass suicide to rendezvous with a spaceship hiding behind the comet Hale-Bopp in 1997.[16]

* Yahweh ben Yahweh (1935–2007), born as Hulon Mitchell, Jr., a black nationalist and separatist who created the Nation of Yahweh in 1979 in Liberty City, Florida. His self-proclaimed name means "God, Son of God." He could have only been deeming himself to be "son of God", not God, but many of his followers clearly deem him to be God Incarnate.[17][18] In 1992, he was convicted of conspiracy to commit murder and sentenced to 18 years in prison.[19]

* Laszlo Toth (1940-), Hungarian-born Australian who claimed he was Jesus Christ as he vandalised Michelangelo's Pietà with a geologist hammer in 1972.[20][21]

* Wayne Bent (1941-), also known as Michael Travesser of the Lord Our Righteousness Church. He claims; "I am the embodiment of God. I am divinity and humanity combined."[22] He was convicted on 15 December 2008 of one count of criminal sexual contact of a minor and two counts of contributing to the delinquency of a minor in 2008.[23]

* Ariffin Mohammed (1943-), also known as "Ayah Pin", the founder of the banned Sky Kingdom in Malaysia in 1975. He claims to have direct contact with the heavens and is believed by his followers to be the incarnation of Jesus, as well as Shiva, and Buddha, and Muhammad.[24]

* Mitsuo Matayoshi (1944-), a conservative Japanese politician, who in 1997 established the World Economic Community Party based on his conviction that he is God and Christ. According to his program he will do the Last Judgment as Christ but within the current political system.[25][26]

* José Luis de Jesús Miranda (1946-), Puerto Rican founder, leader and organizer of Growing in Grace based in Miami, Florida, who claims that the resurrected Christ "integrated himself within me" in 2007.[27]

* Inri Cristo 1948-, a Brazilian astrologer who claims to be the second Jesus reincarnated in 1969,[28] Brasília is considered by Inri Cristo and his disciples as the “New Jerusalem” of the Apocalypse.

* Thomas Harrison Provenzano[29] (1949–2000), an American convicted murderer who was possibly mentally ill. He compared his execution with Jesus Christ's crucifixion.[30]

* Shoko Asahara (1955-), founded the controversial Japanese religious group Aum Shinrikyo in 1984. He declared himself "Christ", Japan's only fully enlightened master and the "Lamb of God". His purported mission was to take upon himself the sins of the world. He outlined a doomsday prophecy, which included a Third World War, and described a final conflict culminating in a nuclear "Armageddon", borrowing the term from the Book of Revelation 16:16.[31] Humanity would end, except for the elite few who joined Aum.[31] The group gained international notoriety in 20 March 1995, when it carried out the Sarin gas attack on the Tokyo subway. He has been sentenced to death, and is awaiting execution.

* David Koresh (1959–1993), born Vernon Wayne Howell, was the leader of a Branch Davidian religious sect in Waco, Texas,though never directly claiming to be Jesus himself, proclaimed that he was the final prophet and "the Son of God, the Lamb" in 1983. In 1993 a raid by the U.S. BATF, and the subsequent siege by the FBI ended with Branch Davidian ranch burning, Koresh, 54 adults and 21 children were found dead after the fire.[32]

* Hogen Fukunaga founded Ho No Hana Sanpogyo often called the "foot reading cult," in 1987 after an alleged spiritual event where he claimed to have realized he was the reincarnation of Jesus Christ and the Buddha.[33]

* Marina Tsvigun (1960-), or Maria Devi Christos, is the leader of the Great White Brotherhood.[34] In 1990 she met Yuri Krivonogov, the "Great White Brotherhood" founder, who recognized Marina as a new messiah and later married her, assuming in the sect the role of "John the Baptist", subordinate to Tsvigun.

* Sergei Torop (1961-), a Russian who claims to be "reborn" as Vissarion, Jesus Christ returned, which makes him not "God" but the "word of God." He founded the Church of the Last Testament and the spiritual community Ecopolis Tiberkul in Southern Siberia in 1990.

 

Look at my avatar. Return to viewing it as often as you find necessary.

I suggest you review these verses:

The Parable of the Sheep and the Goats, Matthew 25:31-46

See also Proverbs 14:31, Proverbs 19:17, Matthew 10:42 and Hebrews 6:10.

God has placed someone as his representative in your life, hence the use of the first person "I". This person has overcome a great obstacle (the mountain) but at considerable personal cost ("bleeding" signifies injury, "crying" signifies grief, "waiting" means that God is literally waiting to see how you will treat this person).

You are instructed not to kill. I do not think this means literally to abstain from bringing death to the body, but rather that you should refrain from killing the person's hope, breaking their spirit. But why such an admonishment? Perhaps because God knows it will be your first instinct to react negatively in judgment of this person.

"Truth lies in the past unforgiven athens". I'm not entirely sure, but I believe this means that you need to study the history of the Athenians to discover what unforgivable sin was committed there - what caused their society to fail. In doing so you will discover an important truth. Upshot: Not all lessons are learned from studying the Bible.

"Face up, not down." Contrary to what others have told you, this is not an instruction to stand proud. It is a warning - a person is vulnerable when they sleep face down. You are being told to stay vigilant to avoid an attack from behind. This may not be a physical attack, but one aimed at weaknesses of the mind, or failing to think something thoroughly through. Also, don't take things at face value, as this allows your mind to "roll over and go back to sleep".

"Fingers on your face and mouth." Cover your face and do not speak. Do not give your hiding place away.

"Most important definition failure coming upon earth today"

This is twofold. It refers not only to the definition of words, but to the state of being defined, of clearly standing out. What will be most importantly and clearly defined for you today is that God's word is failing to be heeded by those who would call themselves faithful, and this affects the entire planet. It also refers to your personal failure in the face of the challenges set before you. It's important that you learn the definition of failure, not as a defeat, but in what clear lessons you can learn from defeat.

The challenge is before you "today". But remember that God's measurement of time is not the same as ours. This does not mean God's work will be completed literally today. It means that it begins for you today for this specific challenge - how you will treat others, and whether you will develop compassion for their struggles. That "today" will last however long it takes you to learn the lesson God wishes to teach.

One last thing: Not only the faithful have the power of discernment to give meaning to dreams or prophecy. Sometimes they're spoken, translated or fulfilled by those who have no faith or have lost it. If God can use the faithful, can he not also use those who don't hold belief in Him?

You're welcome.

(and I'm an agnostic)

 

Maybe your God is actually Zeus.

 

Let me again be very clear, no one is forcing people to come into a forum and rip into Jedi. If you don't like it, try not going into the threads that HE starts.

If however, you GO OUT OF YOUR WAY to call someone else insane .... well, that kind of behavior pretty much defines being mean.

Apologies Doc, you are not the only one doing it, but, I have seen you react to members of this forum treating you to the same kind of treatment. The treatment is unacceptable in any direction.

If you don't like it .... move along.

 

Are you kidding? Cryptic messages are better than blueberry pie to a religionist. The more cryptic, the better.

 

... "He died on 10 December 1958 after being suicide bombed by two disgruntled former followers" ...

Krishna Venta sounds like an interesting Messiah, and a home-grown American one too!

 

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Have you considered the possibility to visit a doctor?

 

OT & NT scriptures states

Acts 2:17: (Joel 2:28-32)

17'AND IT SHALL BE IN THE LAST DAYS,' God says,
'THAT I WILL POUR FORTH OF MY SPIRIT ON ALL MANKIND;
AND YOUR SONS AND YOUR DAUGHTERS SHALL PROPHESY,
AND YOUR YOUNG MEN SHALL SEE VISIONS,
AND YOUR OLD MEN SHALL DREAM DREAMS;

And the old 'church joke' response for men is, "I still see visions!" Ba Dump Dump

But we are told to judge prophecy to see if it lines up with the word of God.

And I would not come against someone's visions or dreams unless they were dangerous and would lead some astray. But I believe that most/all of such are for personal edification and most likely shud not be shared unless the receiver of such felt directed by God to do so.