Justice Department preparing for Mueller report as early as next week

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  1. kungfuliberal

    kungfuliberal Well-Known Member

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    Actually what I'm pointing to is what Bur couched his conclusion on: But Burr also allowed that some questions raised during the Russia probe could occupy the committee “for the next decade.”

    And then there's this: Burr’s comment last week was not an official declaration on behalf of the committee exonerating Trump of collusion, and the chairman suggested that its final report may not draw a conclusion.

    So the public semantic games go on....but what's going to hit the fan is what Bur DOESN'T release to the public, but what MUST be seen by non-GOP members of the Senate committee. Stay tuned.
     
  2. glitch

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    In the House Schiff came out with his counter, but his argument wasn't that they found collusion but that they didn't get to interview enough people. In the Senate they took two years and the bi-partisan result, with no counter report, was no evidence of collusion. Patterns of contact are not collusion, they are to be expected from politicians and international businesspersons. You can keep hoping someone will find something but it has already been investigated pretty much to death. Perhaps you might consider the possibility that there really was no collusion and that's why no one can find any.
     
  3. kungfuliberal

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    You left this part out, son:

    Legal experts are divided on that question. The Supreme Court has never ruled on whether the president can be indicted or whether the president can be subpoenaed for testimony.
     
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  4. kungfuliberal

    kungfuliberal Well-Known Member

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    Perhaps you might stop repeating a myopia and deal with the whole picture. Confirmed meetings based on the premise of "dirty information" Questionable timing as to real estate deals, etc. Like it or not, Trump's defense stinks https://www.politico.com/news/trump-russia-scandal
     
  5. PeppermintTwist

    PeppermintTwist Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Senate had a bogus investigation with zero credibility. These tools and accomplices did not even question Manafort...so let's get real here.

    Of Course There’s Evidence Trump Colluded with Russian Intelligence

    https://www.lawfareblog.com/course-theres-evidence-trump-colluded-russian-intelligence
     
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    Pure supposition and conjecture here.
     
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    Pure supposition and conjecture here.
     
  8. glitch

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    Seriously your collusion is DT during a campaign speech joking "Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing. I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press." That's really what you're going with as collusion? Hard to take you real serious here.
     
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    Nothing to see there at all.
    One could not aim a spitball at The White House from three football fields away and not hit some jerkwad with ties to the Russkie mafia and Putin's Oligarch cronies. Trump is so filthy dirty with money laundering and racketeering that he's looking at a mountain of legal problems the likes of which cannot even be fathomed and where "collusion" is the least of it. And that goes for his thieving grifter family as well. The GOP has looked the other way due to their own treachery and acceptance of Russkie influence.

    What kind of sap supports a POS that ripped off fellow Americans? Seriously!
     
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    Okay so we're not talking about collusion anymore then and hoping for other crimes we can nail him on. A lot of hatred there - not healthy.
     
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    Pure supposition and conjecture here.
    Pure supposition and conjecture here.
    Pure supposition and conjecture here.
     
  12. Egoboy

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    Oops... perhaps another false alarm...

    MSNBC reporting a "DOJ Senior Official: Mueller report not expected next week"

    Of course not. Why would you steal the spotlight from Michael Cohen?? And isn't the Pumpkin doing something next week too??

    Oh well... Looks like March at best...

    Maybe more indictments before the report coming?? Those Friday's are usually fun...
     
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    Soon (tm)
     
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    Trump has been a proven thief and racketeer for his entire adult life. The POS has been laundering money for years. I hear he is opening another university and you should seriously consider signing up. Don't worry if you don't have the cash as he happily accepts credit cards. Go for it!
     
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    Pure supposition and conjecture here.
     
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    Think I've had enough college but thanks for the suggestion. If you have evidence of a crime perhaps you should contact Mueller or a prosecutor. I'm sure you wouldn't just be making stuff up out of anger.
     
  17. fifthofnovember

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    This sentence says very little. Do these questions even concern Trump or collusion? He doesn't say. But saying that "we still have questions" cannot, no matter how you spin it, be interpreted as "we have evidence of collusion". In fact, the most charitable interpretation of that statement would be "after two years, we still assume evidence exists, but we were too incompetent to find it, even with our nigh unlimited investigatory powers"

    Ah, so "we have zero evidence of collusion, but we might choose to not reach the logical conclusion that such lack of evidence would indicate." If you think that is valid in any way, then I hope to God you never sit on any jury.

    Look, this is really simple. From your link:

    TRUMP: “Senator Richard Burr, The Chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, just announced that after almost two years, more than two hundred interviews, and thousands of documents, they have found NO COLLUSION BETWEEN TRUMP AND RUSSIA! Is anybody really surprised by this?” — tweet Sunday.

    TRUMP: “The mainstream media has refused to cover the fact that the head of the VERY important Senate Intelligence Committee, after two years of intensive study and access to Intelligence that only they could get, just stated that they have found NO COLLUSION between ‘Trump’ & Russia.” — tweet Friday.

    Trump makes the same claim both times: "They found no collusion." The only way that these statements could be false is if the committee DID find evidence of collusion. Which, by Burr's admission, they didn't.
     
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    I missed the indictments, let alone the convictions. Haven’t you Dems learned your lessons about buying fake news stories yet? Even after Jussie????
     
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    Total horseshit.

    [​IMG]
    IT WAS A DEEP STATE SET-UP: Trump Campaign Volunteer Papadopoulos was Introduced to ‘Russian’ Mifsud by FBI in London!

    The mainstream media and the FBI, DOJ and Mueller team all wanted to connect President Trump to Russia so they set up Papadopoulos and then claimed that he met with Russians. The only problem is that the Russian was not a Russian – he’s a Maltese professor, Josehp Mifsud The entire connections in London were a set up.

    Mueller’s Team also has connections to Joseph Mifsud

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    Zainab Ahmad, a member of Mueller’s legal team, is the former Assistant United States Attorney in the Eastern District of New York.

    The FBI introduced Papadopoulos to their ‘Russian’ agent in the UK and this agent and the FBI are also connected to the corrupt Mueller team.
     
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    Trump is the "Individual 1" that directed Cohen to commit a felony.
     
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    Multiple reports now that we should not expect the report this week. I havent really seen a new timeline.
     
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    It's also a complete lie and he/she knows it.
     
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    Trumps tweet is wrong, as usual, Burr said (on purpose, mind you), they found no DIRECT EVIDENCE of collusion. Its probable Mueller wont have DIRECT EVIDENCE either, just a pantload of convincing circumstantial evidence, which will likely spur impeachment hearings...
     
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    You support impeachment of a president when there is no direct evidence he committed a high crime and/or misdemeanor?
    That is, you want to remove a President based on nothing but supposition and conjecture?

    Didn't you oppose impeachment of a president when there was -direct- evidence of high crimes and misdemeanors committed in office??
     
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  25. Egoboy

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    Start off with a simple answer - Yes... There is already a direct and clear accusation he committed a high crime, well before anything Bob Mueller comes up with.

    That other president went under oath... the same needs to occur for this president, however that comes to occur.

    I guarantee you we'd have perjury charges (on important things) coming out the wazoo...

    You cannot compare the 2 situations until Trump goes under oath, or interviews with Mueller (although that ship has long sailed)
     

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