Kyle Rittenhouse won’t be charged for gun offense in Illinois: prosecutors

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  1. Tahuyaman

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    I said that he didn’t arm himself and go there to clean graffiti.

    When one arms himself and injects himself into a violent riot, he is indeed picking a fight.
     
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    That's your own conclussion. Others would say he was carrying for defense in case something happened. Can you give reasons to prove that your own assertions have more credence then those who say otherwise?
     
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    Rittenhouse did not arm himself and travel to Wisconsin to clean graffiti.

    When one arms himself and inserts himself into a violent riot, he is indeed picking a fight.
     
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    Don’t you think that’s it’s pretty much expected that if you arm yourself and enter an active riot there will be a violent confrontation?
     
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    What you or I think is irrelevant. What I'm asking for is evidence. That's the only thing that matters.
     
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    You proceed form a false premise - you cannot demonstrate that arming yourself and going to a violent area equates to picking a fight, and you cannot demonstrate that Rittenhouse sought a violent confrontation - that is, picked a fight.
     
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    How could it not be considered picking a fight? Why would someone do that unless they were looking for a confrontation?

    If I am at my home watching the news reports of a riot taking place miles from my home and I get my AR15 and travel to that riot and enter the fray, I would be picking a fight. A rational person would expect a violent act to take place.

    That would be demonstrating extremely poor judgement. It would be a stupid thing to do. It might even be a criminal act.
     
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    He doesn't owe you or anyone else a reason for being in public in this country. He doesn't need a reason to prevent people from destroying the property of others. He was not "in the fray" until a pedo tried to throw a molotov at him. Please avoid any potential selection as a juror as your knowledge of the law is below acceptable levels.
     
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    If he wasn’t in the fray, how was he in a position to have a Molotov cocktail throw at him or in his direction?
     
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    Did you bother watching any of the footage?

    I'm leaving out the fact that having a molotov is a felony (not that a 5 time rapist would care) and that's not peacefully demonstrating at all.
     
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    What's that?
    You cannot support your claim?
    No surprise.
    Thank you for making it clear I need waste no more time on you.
     
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    So the rioters are not to blame?
     
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    I’m not addressing the illegal conduct of the rioters.
     
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    You just keep hurling stupid assertions.
     
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    Yes, there was a riot where hundreds or maybe thousands of people were acting like lawless animals. That doesn’t justify arming yourself Athen traveling to a neighboring city and state and entering the fray. What would a reasonable person think was going to happen?
     
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    You not supporting your own claims is not an assertion, it's a fact. This is a debate forum. You will be called to provide evidence to your claims. Doing so is not trolling or off topic. It is a basic tenement to discussing anything controversial. The burden of proof lies on those who makes the claim. That means if I say Rittenhouse was in the middle performing cpr when he was attacked, the responsibility would lie on me to provide evidence when asked. That's how this works. Now you have claimed multiple times he went looking for trouble and picked a fight. Now by the rules of debate, prove it.
     
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    I’m making sound statements and observations based on the facts as we know them. All you are doing is saying I’m wrong with nothing but your opinions in support.
     
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    Your pushing your own conclusions as if they're facts. Furthermore you have stated multiple times Kyle picked a fight without ever providing evidence for such a claim. The facts as we know them do not support any of what you have claimed. It's just your own personal assertions and those are not considered evidence in the court of law.
     
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    No one has to justify anything to you. We have rights in America, and we don't need your permission to exercise them. A reasonable person doesn't set others' property on fire, destroy things with clubs, and threaten people with a molotov.

    So, who was being reasonable again?
     
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    No one said people don’t have the right to display poor judgement. A reasonable person would avoid a situation where there’s a certainty that you will be involved in a violent confrontation.
     
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    Protecting life and property is not poor judgement. I cannot comprehend how this escapes you.
     
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    That’s not what he was doing. The kid has a hero complex. He involved himself into a violent situation which he should have not gotten involved with.

    If he wanted to be part of the solution, he should have finished high school, maybe attend college or spend an enlistment in the military and then applied for the local police department when he reached the qualifying age. That way he would have had a bit more experience and maturity.

    Instead he decided to go out and try to be a big hero. Well, he screwed up. He made a bad decision. He got in over his head by his own choice.
     
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    That's exactly what he was doing, you're rather look the other way and demonize him for his efforts. Instead of pointing the finger at the actual problem people, he's your scapegoat. He did not screw up, he responded intelligently and with a steady hand to mongrels who tried to murder him. Those who died did so attempting to murder Kyle while destroying things that did not belong to them.

    You've picked the side of lawlessness and destruction, and you have brought no logic or reason to this conversation just apologetics for criminals.
     
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    I’m not demonizing him. I’m criticizing his actions. I’ve never referred to him as an evil person. Just immature and overly impressionable. .
     
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    Don't feed the troll.
     

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