Let us all poop in the bushes instead of in the water. The sea, our primary food source, will thank

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  1. Greatest I am

    Greatest I am Well-Known Member

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    Let us all poop in the bushes instead of in the water. The sea, our primary food source, will thank us.

    All human waste should be used to make arable land instead of killing our primary food and cooling source. The sea.

    Funny as it may sound, the wold has been producing arable land from animal waste forever. We lose that benefit by pumping our human waste into the sea.

    A sea that will cost us trillions and impoverish many in the next 25 years, as it rises and forces us to spend trillions on infrastructure.

    Add in the trillions that the wars that famines create and you have a depression style of life. All in the next 25 odd years. Happy days?

    And all of this happens as the world population increases to its estimated plateau of 10 billion people, who will need to burn even more fossil fuels and add even more to global weather carnage.

    I think we all suffer from a case of collective insanity.

    A good reversal of that would be a collective protecting of our primary food source and create more arable land to feed the hordes of bodies that we will have to sustain. Human food needs fertilizing and human waste makes a great fertilizer after it becomes arable land.

    Let us all poop in the bushes instead of in the water.

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    DL
     
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    You go ahead and head to the bushes. Watch out for those chiggers and ticks because they carry diseases. The flies will just annoy you. And hopefully the buzzards attracted by the stench and circling overhead won't poop on your head.
     
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    I would also like to add... use your bare hand to wipe your ass. tissue papers and leaves deserve to live without poo.
     
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    Most recognize that I was suggesting we pump onto land instead of the sea.
    I was not suggesting a lifestyle change.

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    DL
     
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    That's how it's done in Islamic countries, and Obama thinks Islam is beautiful, therefore, by mathematical principles, Obama thinks poopy hands are beautiful.
     
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    Man deserves to eat fish that does not live on plastics that we end as consuming.

    I am surprised you do not see the win win of our turning waste into arable land.

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    Oh come on. We're not the Taliban.
     
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    Certainly not during wasp season.
     
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    These responses are just sad.

    To the op, the person actually thinking here, it is frustrating when one can see a problem and the solution, but with no means to act on that. I've always felt the best thing is to get the idea out there to ferment. Hopefully the right person will get wind of it one day. Of course you can always go politically active, but major infrastructure changes like this are very slow to happen.

    I know how we can eliminate the need for oil entirely. But it will take decades for that to come to fruition - and for no good reason. In the mean time, it may already be too late.

    One of the great failures of capitalism is that it tends to be self defeating. Hunt and fish to extinction, deplete limited natural resources with no plan or options, foul the water and air until they are a danger to public health... The almighty dollar always wins no matter who pays the price.

    Make me Emperor of the world and I'll fix this all in a few years. I just can't seem to get the job. :D

    We know many of the solutions needed. Our system of government just isn't up to the task. And sadly, democracy means critical decisions are often left to popularity contests, where uneducated voters make life and death decisions with a reckless disregard for the consequences - even in terms of the futures of their own children.
     
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    We are up to the task if we collectively move toward solutions.

    We just do not have the political wall at present.

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    DL
     
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    So 10 million people in NYC are going to crap in the bushes?
     
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    Duplicate
     
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    The water supply in the US is a mess.

    Many of you are already drinking recycled pee and poop. They dump all the human waste in rivers and the people downstream pull the same water out of the flowing cesspool to drink.

    Tap water is pretty filthy stuff for many cities...

    https://danielteolijr.wordpress.com/2016/01/18/6035/
     
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    It's funny to me when an idealist looks at the flaws in a system that has been refined for thousands of years and decides that it's innovative to tear the entire system down.

    There is a reason civilized nations use sanitary sewer systems to manage waste. Maybe take a few years to figure out why it works the way it does before coming to the conclusion that you can make it better by trying a completely different waste management system. Especially since your plan is to go back to the strategy employed 100,000 years ago.
     
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    And there is a reason you can get hepatitus just swimming in the ocean in Los Angeles.

    And it hasn't been refined over thousands of years! :rolleyes: It was just a convenient way to manage waste as large cities emerged. You are arguing that 16th century solutions are the best we can do. Some of us can see forward instead of backwards. ;)
     
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    I use fertilizer made from people poop. They don't call it that. It is "dried microbes that have consumed the organic matter in wastewater" or something like that.
     
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    Sanitary sewer systems have been around for a very long time. And they are still being refined to this day, so you're quite incorrect. In fact, biosolids already are reclaimed and used as fertilizer, as well as a host of other recycling ideas. Though not every thinks it's as great an idea as OP.

    https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/...fertilize-crops-might-not-be-such-a-great-ide

    Mainly because humans are pretty filthy and their filth is no exception.
     
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    If they want to protect our primary food source and produce more arable land, more than 10 million should pump our refuse on land, yes.

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    Mushrooms, magic or not, is better than our eating plastics and other contaminants that are screwing with the gender of our fish.

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    DL
     
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    I agree and that is why I suggest we pump our refuse on land where it can purify itself before the liquids get into our rivers and streams.

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    Purify itself? Where do you think the toxins go? You think they magically disappear if you pump them on to land?
     
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    It's so obvious that it is a real surprise that there are no big initiatives pushing this.
    I use a composting toilet which I built myself and have no problem getting hold of sawdust to use in it.
    Fertilizer has a real monetary value and soil erosion is a genuine problem world wide.
    There are composting toilets commercially available but they tend only to be used as an alternative to septic tanks where mains sewerage is not available.
     
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    Better to let it age in the sun and on land than to put all those contaminants into our largest food source.

    Plastics are just one of many ingredients that we consume regularly.

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    Better that they be in worms than in us. Our oceans will thank us.

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    I agree with you and that is why I put, "I think we all suffer from a case of collective insanity.".

    Note the garbage replies here so far that only offer objections to us doing the intelligent and environmentally correct thing.

    Regards
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