Lets celebrate! First gay-free city is in Moldova!!!

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  1. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    Let's how you feel and deal with it... when YOU are the one who (for whatever reason) is segregated or separated-out... to 'solve' some 'problem'.

    Get back with 'decent' people and talk to us, after you've experienced that.
     
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    Kinda an interesting scenario.

    So it's OK for Moldova to pick on the little guys and segregate against homosexuals, but it's not OK for the EU to pick on the little guys and push back against Moldova?

    Now Moldova get's a taste for what it's like to be in the minority, to be the little guy getting beat over the head by the majority's beating stick.

    Moldova can segregate itself if it wants to.... it doesn't have to join the EU. If segregation is such a good thing that you want to support, here's their change to snub their nose to the EU.

    It's pretty crappy to be segregated against, damaging both on an emotional and economical level... Now they can get a taste for what it's like to be segregated against. Maybe they'll learn that segregation isn't that great of a thing, when it's used against them. Just maybe, tolerance is the best policy.

    Welcome to the minority, I knew it would happen, I just didn't know how soon it would be :p
     
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    http://www.asylumlaw.org/docs/sexualminorities/Moldova020208.pdf

    tolerance at its best.

    I agree, in a situation like this, sometimes segregation is the best policy. It's disgusting that it had to come to this. I hope the EU will enforce its segregation against Moldova, just to give them a small taste. Maybe that will bring change.
     
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    By the way, there's nothing surprising or manipulative about it. From what I've read on the matter, adherence to the human rights standards of the EU that protect gays, among other minorities, and their right to assemble is a standard requirement for entrance into the EU. Moldova doesn't have to join, but the decision to join comes with the baggage of adhering to the EU's principles, which would include non-discrimination/segregation against gays, as well as the right to assemble (aka a pride festival or march).


    http://blog.soros.org/2011/06/moldovas-gay-rights-stance-undermines-its-eu-aspirations/


    In a direct letter from EU representatives to the parliament of Moldova, they urge them to pass an anti-discrimination bill as a condition of furthering the ties with the EU. They didn't, of course, so I approve of any position the EU takes to stick it to them and continue segregating them from the union.

    http://www.lgbt-ep.eu/parliamentary...parliament-adopt-the-anti-discrimination-law/
    Welcome to the minority, Moldova. You can have a seat over here, it's fine, I don't bite. You'll find that we other members of the minority are actually quite pleasant if you take some time to get to know us. Just be careful what you say, you wouldn't want to get bashed by the police. Oh, I'm just kidding, the EU police wouldn't do anything like that. It's not like we're talking about the Moldova police or anything like that.
     
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    I do mind my own business; I just disagree with homosexuality and many other behaviors that do not equate to peace or the development the divine self. If my objection to and rejection of homosexuality makes me a "bad" person, so be it. I for one am not going to change my views about behaviors that contribute nothing to the development of people, but actually detract from them by furthering the psychological chasms and rifts by assigning more to physical gratification than should be. There is absolutely no ascension in living according to physical gratification to the point where you actually destroy the characteristics of man in your quests of spiritual ascension through physical abasement.
    It is a matter of above or below. If my thinking upsets you, than you need to hide yourself in a cave and never see the light of day.
    Why do you have this notion that people must tolerate or submit to and be subject to your behaviors without objection? I am not here on my planet to suffer the brunt of your hostilities.
     
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    I seek not to dehumanize others, it is they who dehumanize themselves. I do not encourage others to debase themselves by living according to physical gratification, they encourage themselves so I am not to blame for their behavior(s). They are the only ones who bare the full weight of their actions and noone else.
     
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    Well, where it comes to human sexuality itself, you need to step into reality or else bring undue trouble to yourself and others.

    Do you do ANYTHING for pleasure when you have sex or express affection, or are you of the opinion that sexual relations is only to make babies? You may not be to blame for the behaviors of others... but YOU are responsible for how you actually treat other human beings. Say/do what you think or believe is good and right, but consider that what YOU proliferate in this reality... comes around in this reality. Treat people in inhumane ways, and that will likely come around to bite you and yours in due time.

    Well... YOU aren't God, so don't think that changing all those people who happen to be "gay", is a task you have the ability or autonomy to perform. If you know well, you'd be better-off watching yourself and your own morality. I suspect you are neither perfect in your thoughts or actions; you're human yourself.
     
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    After reading your post, it occurred to me that you are the one with a God complex. I only live according to what Allah states in His laws as well as though His prophets, while you are the one blatantly ignoring what He wants thinking that you are a lord beside Him.
     
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    Interpreting the principles and motivations of God are a creation of man. You, nor I, can speak for him unless you believe that your beliefs about God are unchallengable. Pushing forward your own beliefs about God as unchallengable makes you just as guilty of thinking yourself a lord beside Him.
     
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    ___Amen!___
     
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    I'm glad that I don't and DO NOT ever want to live there.
     
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    You face the reality. I am the one who is discriminated by this forced coexistence.

    Stop trolling.
     
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    Cheers. Thank you for support. These bastards do nothing but trolling and they call it a "fight".
     
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    That is 'delusional' thinking.

    Stop lying.
     
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    What should be done with the gays?
    I am a supporter of racial segregation, at least to some extent.
    But gays are a little different. Gay children are born into heterosexual families. Different races could be separated into different nations and the problem solved permanently. But this cannot be done with gays.
    Gay people can be of your same race also. They should keep their homosexuality to themselves and far away from everyone else, but to separate them from everyone else seems overly cruel and does not make much sense.
     
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    Your thinking seems dangerous to me.
     
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    I support racial segregation too.
    Regarding the "gay issue" it's up to you. I mean, if you raise a kid in the atmosphere of gay propaganda and openness - it's more likely that he or she will choose this path. In the place where gay stuff is outlawed - your kid might not even question it and be like everybody. So, you minimize this outcome by moving to gay-free zone and raising your kids there.

    But, yes, it might happen despite of that. So, it's up to you too. You either quit your kid and stay yourself in gay-free zone or move out from this zone. It depends on your tolerance towards a homosexuality and love to your kid. But you have a lot of free choices in this case, comparing to the 1 choice(no choice, forcing) you have in current society - gay propaganda is everywhere and this "gay issue" getting literally pushed upon people as a "right alternative choice".
     
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    Stop trolling. Your gay people will pay with emotional suffering. Remember that.
     
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    Your threats are meaningless.
     
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    Nice try - but Sascha Baron Cohen has already done Borat.

    You need to invent a new comic character
     
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    Yesterday I did "Zig hail" in front of the gay couple in SF. They looked stunned and upset. And it's because you keep trolling me. Remember, there are a lot of them in SF, I don't need to go far.

    Your posts are meaningless. I understand, it helps you to dwell on idea of some kind of illusion of "fight". Your "fight" is you support of tyrannic intrusion of "gay rights" upon me and taking away a freedom as not to be around people I don't want to be. The current government uses repressive Stalin's methods to make me love them and not giving me a choice any other as to keep up with it. So, if I don't want to be around them - I will be labeled as "a hater", will be fired from work, hunted down by so-called "free mass media"...


    Perish, foul power, perish!

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    You are mistaken, there have been many intolerant laws before this one. Pretty sure Nazi Germany, as one example, had similar laws. I think homosexuality is a crime in Iran as well.​
     
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    It's the same sort of thinking that was popular in 1930s Germany. It's sad that people like that are so willing to spread their hatred and bigotry. :cry:
     
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    You have no such freedom outside your own home. You have no such freedom here on this forum. You have no such freedom in San Francisco.

    You might have that freedom if you would like to move to the middle east or Moldova. Although Moldova is getting its own taste of segregation by being disallowed further integration with the EU until they change the law.
     

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