Lets celebrate! First gay-free city is in Moldova!!!

Uh no, actually laws against discrimination aren't forcing you to be around anyone.

You CHOOSING to live in San Fran, the gay capital of the USA, is why you are constantly around gay people.

Move or quit complaining. Simple as that.

 

You don't support "freedom"; not one single iota. The only BULL I see is your poor justification for dehumanizing others.

 

You seem to be missing something fairly fundamental here. So let's build a country and start distributing rights. This could be fun!

First, do we agree that everyone who is an adult in a particular country should have the same rights as everyone else? I'm going to assume you this is a reasonable approach and move on, but if you're not sure my argument follows in parenthesis.

(If you favor a system where equal rights are guaranteed not for everyone then you risk being one of the unlucky people who have fewer rights, don't you? So the only reasonable way to guarantee yourself the largest number of rights that are protected by law is to agree that everyone gets the same number.)

So now we start deciding what kind of rights we're going to give hand out. We can do what we want, remember? We're a country now. We do have this one stipulation that whatever rights we divvy out need to go to everyone, but beyond that maybe we can build your dream country.

So you want the right not to be around gays, eh? It sort of seems like you already have that right, don't you? Do we have to write it down? I suppose "the right not to be around polar bears" is something you wished you'd gotten on paper if you find yourself locked in the polar bear enclosure at a zoo, but the situation isn't the same here. There's no "gay enclosure." Today's modern homosexual is able to travel across the globe at speed that only a century ago would have seemed impossible.

But anyway, you think you have a right not to be around gays. Look, it's not a huge country, but we've got our capitol city, where we are sitting now, and it's surrounded by that 200 mile wide cyanide/sulfuric acid swampland. Why don't you just go there? Not any gays at all there, I'm guessing.

Ok, I see you point. Forcing you out to what really would be a painful death just so you can stay away from the gays does seem a little draconian. For you, anyway. Well, have you considered shipping the gays out to the swamp? If we did that this place would be 100% gay free.

Except the same rights that seemed super important to you when it was you facing death in the swamp are being infringed upon when you try to send the gays there.

Do you see my point here? I'm really trying not to make it complicated because a lot of people have tried and failed with you already. A good way to tell if the thing you want more than anything else can be considered a "right" is to see if its application in favor of one group does any harm to another. If you truly believe that clearing out a city of gays doesn't infringe upon their rights because there's an almost equally good city over there they can use then you have to be open to the idea that, down the line, you might have to leave because that guy doesn't like people named Martin.

As long as you're fine being tossed around the country by every impulsive whim then we can probably make this work. But if you feel like you have a right to live where you want you can't deny the same right from others.

What you don't have is a right not to be offended. Which you clearly are by homosexuals. You know what? I don't care. Be as offended as you want. Leave if you want. But I'm not going to pretend you're the center of the universe and we should really make the area as comfortable as possible for you then you're not only a bigot, you're crazy.

 

Translation: Because my ideas make no sense if you actually focus on the words or the logic I use and I think it will be a lot clearer if you just let it kind of wash over you. But not in a gay way.

Hey, Martin! Paragraphs are made of sentences, which are made of words. If none of your words are real ones then the sentences don't work. If the sentences contain real words that are incorrectly used then the paragraphs won't make sense.

Do you really think that the idea you expressed can possibly be correct if, when laying it out for us, virtually every component contained errors, unproven assumptions, and all the other stuff you just had laid out before you like a 14 year old being shown his porn stash by his disapproving mother? What do you have to say for yourself, kid?

 

You will not be missed by decent people .
It would be lovely if you returned in three or four years , having travelled and expanded your brain , heart , mind and even soul .

 

In related news: Science has proven that homophobia, unlike other ignorance-based bigotry (such as racism) is rooted in the deep-seated desire of the homophobe to suck d*ck.

 

What a ridiculous and stupid assumption.Thank goodnes you werent my teacher in logic when I went to school.You would have been laughed out of the classroom, even if you taught in Prep!

 

Have you reviewed research on the matter? (You might want to.)

 

http://www.2bmag.com/2012/04/study-links-homophobia-and-repressed-sexuality-7698

Darn...sure are a lot of closet cases here at PF!

 

That is very likely.

 

Gay should be tolerated as it can then be criticised as the stupidity and lifestyle choice it is ,Whereas homosexuality just is !

And people should be able to call themselves ,anything really ,hey ,I defend the right of a madman to call himself ,a girraffe if he wants to ,so why not nutty" Cultural Identity politics" people calling themselves Gay?

Post-modernism and multi -culturalism are ridiculous and anti-scientific thinking much like religion after all.

I may not agree that god exists in fact ,I can disprove gods existance but hey if an individual wants to believe in silly things then who am I to force them not to ,education can do that job, without need for state suppression.

 

yes indeed ,i reckon Kinsey was right ,10% pure homosexual ,80% bisexual ,10%pure hetrosexual.

And why it is such a big deal in the 21st century is beyond me ,I blame the "Gay and lesbian 'crowd and their neurotic ,paranoid cowardly backsliding.

WHAT HAPPENED TO HOMOSEXUAL and Proud and leave it at that.

Gay and Lesbian marriage for example is NOT the political question of the day ,if thats is all that is left to create Equality between the Sexual orientations well Equality is here ,which it isn't.

Most Humans of all sexual orientations BTW ,oppose Marriage ,please refer to DIVORCE figures.Shows how far the Lesbian \Gay community are from Reality as it is!

Heres a challenge ,WHO HERE ACTUALLY IDENTIFIES AS GAY AND LESBIAN?

don't wait for an answer anytime soon as they don't really exist its just a smoke and mirrors political spin community and nothing else ,safely IGNORED!

Gay Marriage is a perspective of an extremely small and insignificant,religious fundamentalist community of distrubed and warped homosexual radicals and nothing more .


litterally Homosexuals who see themselves dressed in white walking down the church aisle ,in the eyes of God!


A very tiny minority of homosexual people and not to liked by the Homosexual community as whole.Who traditionally wouldn't even think about being Married nor want to be married ,and in fact not to happy about the churches oppression murder and attacks over well FOR EVER ,even though jesus was definitely leading a Homosexual life.Gay christians make me want to Vomit.


Jesus wasn't gay ,but he was definitely Homosexual .And good luck to him I say live and let live JC .

 

Marriage=/=religion

That pretty much unravels your entire post.