Let's End Female Genital Mutilation

I am Episcopalian.. and there is NO stoning in the Gulf States.

There were 60,000 hadiths from Persia that were written 200 years after the death of Muhammed. Most Muslims ignore them.

 

Your information about Islam is poor because of your choice of sources. Garbage in, garbage out.

 

You live in a fantasy world, Islamic law lets husbands cut off their wives noses
Here----> https://www.pajhwok.com/sites/pajhw.../1/24159587090_3aff9becb8_z.jpg?itok=TbKzyzlj

Lets people have their hands cut off
Here---> http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/02/28/article-2570535-1BECEDBC00000578-235_634x326.jpg

Gays get thrown off buildings
Here---> http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/08/14/17/2B5CC09E00000578-0-image-a-14_1439569403417.jpg

You live in a secluded dream

 

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/08/14/17/2B5CC09E00000578-0-image-a-14_1439569403417.jpg

 

Daily Fail??
You honestly think the daily fail is a good source of information?

 

Are you claiming that gays are not thrown off of buildings in Islamic states?

https://nypost.com/2015/02/03/isis-...f-stones-him-to-death-after-he-survives-fall/

Do photos lie?

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And in order to make women equal we must ban the Bible

 

This is the classic strawman. Create a scenario and then get all hysterical..American Muslims do not do that and most Muslims globally don’t either .
Ps you should educate yourself. They don’t remove half the vagina..

 

Remember Matthew shepherd? Want pictures?. Gay killings happen here too often

 

Or you can do unto others as you would have them do unto you...........................

The dude who taught me how to fish said that once

 

How does a woman have an orgasm without a clitoris........................

Consult your strawman for an answer

 

The Qur'an describes several hudud crimes and in some cases sets out punishments.[3] The hudud crime of theft is referred to in Quranic verse 5:38:[3]

As to the thief, male or female, cut off his or her hands: a punishment by way of example, from Allah, for their crime: and Allah is Exalted in power.[18]

The crime of "robbery and civil disturbance against Islam" inside a Muslim state, according to some Muslim scholars, is referred to in Quranic verse 5:33:[3]

The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter.[19]

The crime of intoxication is referred to in Quranic verse 5:90, and hudud punishment is described in hadiths:[3]

O ye who believe! Intoxicants and gambling, (dedication of) stones, and (divination by) arrows, are an abomination, - of Satan's handwork: eschew such (abomination), that ye may prosper.[20]

The crime of illicit consensual sex is referred to in several verses, including Quranic verse 24:2:[3]

The woman and the man guilty of adultery or fornication - flog each of them with a hundred stripes. Let not compassion move you in their case, in a matter prescribed by Allah, if ye believe in Allah and the Last Day: and let a party of the Believers witness their punishment.[21]

The crime of "accusation of illicit sex or rape against chaste women without four witnesses" and a hudud punishment is based on Quranic verses 24:4, 24:6, 9:66 and 16:106, among others Quranic verse.[3]

And those who accuse chaste women and do not bring four witnesses - flog them with eighty stripes and do not accept their witness thereafter. Indeed they themselves are impure

 

Sure, go ahead. But since Christianity never drew its instruction from the OT but the Gospel, you're going to have a difficult time smearing the Christian faith. Feel free to quote Mosaic Law to smear Judaism at your will.

And since the Bible doesn't contain an open-ended instruction to spread the faith by the sword, you're going to have a hard time with a relativist argument, but go ahead and try!

Sadly, every time I criticize Islamic Law, certain people feel the need to "but the Bible" in defense of Muslims, but oddly, when people bash the Bible, the same people who "but the Bible" never "but the Quran." It's really interesting.

 

Let's ban ALL genital mutilation on boys and girls.

 

Funny how the Bible thumpers quote the OT when it comes to homosexuality. Are you saying that everything in the Old Testament is invalid? So you’re basically saying it is the second edition. Maybe it’s time for a third edition
The reason we will defend the Quran is because it is attacked as being dangerous. We just try to show that the Bible can be shown as dangerous also. When Muslim start ripping apart the Bible I will defend that as well
Here are some of the New Testament words of wisdom
http://www.loonwatch.com/2011/05/the-but-thats-just-the-old-testament-cop-out/

 

This also is pushed by many Muslim women to have done to their daughters what was done to them as a duty to Allah.

 

The Democratic Party wants to bring millions of Muslims who advocate for and have such done to their daughters to the USA, so really such Muslims are just being good Democrats according to the Democratic Party.

 

Do you write for the onion? You should !

 

Amen to that. Also make and enforce strong laws against sulfuric acid attacks.

 

I'm sorry, where are the "Bible thumpers" here?

The New Testament instructs as to that the New Covenant replaced the Old. That's why Christians have never engaged in following dietary laws, laws about types of clothing and crops to not mix, and so forth. The Bible instructs on those things itself. There is no human picking and choosing, no "second edition."

Both the Old and New Testaments agree on general concepts of morals, including that homosexual sex acts are sinful. The New Testament, however, does not call for a theocratic religious state to prescribe worldly punishments for sins. The Priesthood of the Old Testament is done away with.

Unless you've studied the Quran and the sources of Sharia (mostly the Sahih Hadiths) and can say from accumulated knowledge that the Quran doesn't promote violence, then you have no justification for attacking and deflecting when people who have studied the Quran and Sharia say regarding them having dangerous teachings.

It's very clear by your postings that you have nearly zero knowledge about both faiths.

Part of the problem here: Muhammad personally commanded open-ended wars against unbelievers in part to stifle dissent and in part to spread the faith and prosperity of the Muslims. He personally commanded and engaged in caravan raids and established rules for the division of the captured loot. He personally engaged in slave trading. He personally instructed his followers regarding and engaged in raping war captives - including married ones. He personally commanded his followers kill people who mocked him. He personally married multiple females, including a girl when she was 6 years old. Muhammad called for eye-for-eye retribution. He personally engaged in wife beating and allowed his followers to do so as well. All of these acts are documented and deified in the Quran ahd Hadiths. The Quran specifically threatens people with hell fire who question and do not follow Muhammad. He also declared that "the earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle." Therein is a large portion of the problem.

The outcome of a faith with such teachings is predictable and we've been seeing it for 1,400 years. The Islamic religion is on a level of its own when it comes to violent teachings.

Religious egalitarianism and relativism are not positions of knowledge, but rather ideologically-driven motivators.

Quoting "Loonwatch" isn't a help for your argument. That's a Muslim website that smears all critics of Islam as "Islamophobes" and "bigots." You need a better source. Do you see how that article you quoted was part of the "understanding Jihad" series but didn't address teachings of Jihad in the Quran and Hadiths? Instead they deflected to cherry picking the Bible and bashing.

If you like, I'd be more than happy to explain - with full scriptural citations - from both faiths as to why the religious relativist position is false. I don't want to get accused of derailing this thread, so I could start a new one.

 

Why should parents get a choice to mutilate a little baby boy or any minor girl child, period, even if there is some religious reason for it. And I don't care if I offend Jewish people if you want that ritual do it when the man is an adult under the law which should be eighteen.

 

Good luck with that when the faith teaches people be killed for apostasy and mocking the prophet and the faith.

 

What is that post supposed to mean? Muslim immigration is why we have FGM going on in Dearborn and God knows where else. I have a Muslim family living near me - a man and two women and a couple kids. It's obvious what's going on.

 

Christians are raping women, let’s ban any from coming to our country.???
FGM is a crime in the United States and there are millions of Muslims here , so please don’t act as though this crime is the norm. If you really cared about FGM you would welcome the women who are trying to flee from it in their countries.

 

Really? What exactly is going on?