Let's play "Is it RACISM!!!!"

I don't know where you get your ideas from, but to call race a "meaningless construct" only illustrates your total lack of knowledge on anthropology of the various races of the world. In general your posts on the subject lack coherent thought and rely strictly on emotional hyperbole. You have an ingrained prejudice against something because it "sounds bad" to you. It is most certainly okay to be a little stupid sometimes, you got that much right.

 

You obviously don't know the definition of "racism". And why are you confusing bigotry with racism?

 

No...actually...not racist in the least..

 

I get my ideas from the hard sciences of biology and genetics. And it's not my fault you have no idea what "racism" means. Try reading the dictionary. And if you want to get snippy, I'm game.

 

It seems bigotry is one shared value that does indeed make you "less than comfortable" when rubbing shoulders with like minds. Awesome.

 

I think it's more about people you know. Put him in a group of white people he knows, he'll be comfortable. Put him in a group of black people he doesn't know, he won't be.

 

Wow a "throw down". Listen up, Bobby Flay, you know nothing of race that you haven't been spoon-fed by the popgun culture of stupidity. The "hard science" clearly lays out the vast differences in different RACES. They exist no matter how much it hurts your feelings to admit it. Sorry to be the messenger of reality, but you had to be told someday.

If you want to actually discuss the issue in depth, I suggest going to the nearest idiot on the street who probably can't quite match your mastery of the subject. Have a lovely day.

 

I don't need to. My friends and I are not bigots. We do not feel "less comfortable" around other people simply because they are not the same ethnicity as ourselves. What is so hard to understand about that statement? If you are a bigot that is uncomfortable around other people merely because their skin is a few shades darker or lighter than yours that is your problem. That has nothing to do with my friends and I.

 

A ridiculous lie from someone who hasn't the faintest clue what they're talking about. Last time I checked, you were in the art business, so stick with what you know because biology obviously isn't your bag.

The fact of the matter is that "race" has no real biological or genetic meaning. There is no objective way to consistently determine what "race" a given individual belongs to. You cannot ascertain their "race" via genetic or biologically relevant data. It is just a subjective assement based upon the self-serving, ad hoc criteria imposed by the biased observer.

Like I said, stick to art, science isn't for you.

 

This is 100% true, but it doesn't mean that the concept or race doesn't exist as a social construct and is used for good and evil purposes by people across the political spectrum. You cannot snap your fingers and instantaneously remove the history and consequences of the social construct of race. And if you can't do that then what do you do? Ignore it completely or address it responsibly?

 

I can only respond to what you write, genius. You made no qualifiers initially. You clarified yourself and I have accepted that clarification.

Strawman.

 

Tell people the truth, that is, race is just a BS construct that only arbitrarily divides people. The only thing that matters are one's values and such.

 

And I have made no qualifiers since. My friends and I do not feel "less comfortable" around other people simply because they are of another ethnicity. If you have a problem with that that is more of a reflection on you than anything else.

Race is a social construct. It exists as such whether it has a scientific basis or not. Shaking your fist at it and calling it BS is about as useful as shaking your fist at the sun and calling it BS. The sun is there. You can either put on a hat and sunscreen and deal with it or look like an idiot. Is the sun evil or BS because sometimes it burns people? I don't know. All I know is it exists and every day I have to deal with its consequences good or bad. Ignoring it is not an option.

 

Except that a Hispanic can be black, white, asian, indigenous or mestizo or a mix of any and all. until you understand that you just won't get it.

 

Yes, you did. You qualified your initial statement by citing the education level of the people you would be associating with. This goes directly to my point, i.e., you could be made to feel less comfortable around other ethnicities if they held different values than you; for instance, a group of Arabic males who treated their wives and daughters like cattle might make you feel less comfortable than a group of white males who were liberals like you.

I never stated otherwise, and the OP said nothing of the sort. In other words, this is a strawman.

I don't have a problem with that at all. Nothing I have said should lead you to believe that I do.

I am not ignoring it. I am stating a simple truth, that is, "race" is an utterly meaningless construct and consequently should be discarded from the human lexicon. The fact that it "exists" is utterly irrelevant. The idea that the earth is flat "exists" as well but that does not mean I have to respect that idea or to accommodate its existence in any way, shape, or form. And your analogy is totally wrong. The sun is an actual physical thing that exists and can be observed. It cannot be made to go away simply by refusing to acknowledge it. Race, however, can be eliminated from the human lexicon if people are convinced of the truth.

 

I'm suburban...I feel uncomfortable around urban or rural folk. I'm also American...though being such makes me feel less uncomfortable around foreigners due to American privilege (in certain areas). I'm also black. I feel more comfortable around educated people, regardless of race or region or culture though. Ignorance disgusts me.

Hicks, Hoodrats, and other ignorant categories are a bane to my existence.

The biggest issue I see is ignorance. You can and should feel fine being around and being attracted to whomever. But to then feel your group, your selection is superior...and....I just realized this is a much more nuanced discussion spanning centuries and branching into every possible category I can think of.

This isn't a thread reply topic, this needs a sociology book.

 

So tell me then, Captain Genius, why do people look different? Asians, Caucasians, Negroes, etc. I already know that because I used the gentle N word you will ignore my query, and actually that is fine because I don't want an answer from you as all it will be is tripe based on your ignorance. I have studied anthropology and the development of the races (which do exist, Polyanna). Your unwillingness to seek the truth means you have some prejudice of your own to answer for.

Unlike you, I have ability to understand and endeavor in multiple subjects. And on subject of art I now recall your similar "look at the wall and mumble" attitude there. For people who think they know it all, the mind is padlocked, and ego prevents the search for the key.

 

Sounds great, but it ain't gonna happen any time soon so now what?

Actually the fact the social construct of race exists means we have to deal with its consequences good or bad.

No adult I've ever met has thought the earth is flat. If 50% of the adults I encountered thought that then yes I would have to deal with the consequences whether I agreed with the "flat earth" notion or not.

Ain't gonna happen in our lifetime so let's deal with reality. Why have pointless arguments about esoteric hypotheticals?

 

The only inferior thing a group of people may be attributed to as a whole would be cultural. Islamic culture is morally repugnant, barbaric and backwards. It is inferior to western culture.

Culture is the key, which is social not genetic.

Also to note, racial and ethnic groups would not exist if it was not genetic in nature. Black couples have black babies, white couples have white babies. Mixed couples have mixed babies. The genetic heritage of every person here can be traced back hundreds of years with a blood sample, lets not kid ourselves like naive idiots and say everyone is the same.

We are all different and denial of this only breeds more racism. I don't celebrate Cinco De Mayo but I have nothing against Mexicans doing so. I also doubt Oktoberfest is anything more than a novelty for most non Germans in my home town. Same goes for the St Patrick fair downtown. I'm not an alcoholic red head but I have fun and let the Irish be proud for a day.

Come on now, the world is too big to sit here and say we are all the same.

 

There is nothing racist about this at all. The OP has not expressed any dislike, animosity or feelings of superiority towards other races. He is just more comfortable with people of his own race. Nothing wrong with that. It will make his world smaller but if he is happy like that, so be it. And yes, white people are allowed to have the same feelings/emotions. It is when those lines cross into believing your race is superior to others that racism takes bloom.


racism
Definition
ra·cism
[ ráy sìzzəm ]
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NOUN
1.
animosity toward other races: prejudice or animosity against people who belong to other races
2.
belief in racial superiority: the belief that people of different races have different qualities and abilities, and that some races are inherently superior or inferior

 

It's amazing how avowed racists try to attach the label of racists to everyone else.

 

Hispanic people on the whole are moral, hard working people.ie they are better than average Americans.The US needs to deport in summary fashion those who WILL NOT WORK AND HAVE NO FAMILY VALUES.This group may also be identified by race, and they are not Hispanic.

 

i like buckwheat because he was not racist....

 

I read the whole thing with the word hispanic in it, and it sounded idiotic and closed minded. Just like it would if it were about a white person. Nice try though!! Being proud of your race is absurdly stupid, and is a really good indicator that you are a racist. The level of melanin in a persons skin, being the main consideration for why one would choose to like or enjoy the company of other people, is the height of idiocy.

 

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