"Let's take America back!"

He is younger than Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, and maybe you.

 

I think they want to go back to that place in time when every woman west of the Mississippi was a prostitute (but she was making her own way with what she had), the only cure for everything was alcohol or laudanum, where men were buried where they timbers gave way, and where the embossed cover of a bible was imprinted on every cowboy's ass. Gawd, those were the days. That'd be the track the righties are thinking of.

That's gotta be the track as there hasn't been another right track since. The Roaring 20s, where everybody worked hard, went to church on Sunday, the nigras knew their place, a chicken was in every pot (and NASCAR was started) were small potatoes compared to the 1880s.

 

They (the republicans) would like to wake up tomorrow to find that all the old people, all the disabled people, all the single parents and all the evironmentalists had gone away, welfare and social security had gone and abortion was illegal.

Capitalist Heaven!

 

You must listen to too much Ed Schultz.

 

Then put in the effort. *shrug*




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I have and will continue to. What are YOUR ideas on getting things set right again, and I do mean YOUR ideas.

 

I think self assembling software, 3D printing, bio-fabrication, robotics, intelligent prosthesis, inductive power transfer, better expert systems, and off grid power sources (like solar car charging stations and Bloom boxes) are industries that could make the U.S. an attractive economy again.




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True, so long as the industries stay in the US, made overseas and shipped here for sale does nothing for us.

 

Yeah, I guess turtles just seem old. All gnarly and creased, no chin.

 

My goodness, I'm surprised you haven't moved to another country, with such feeling of our system and you living in the best State for following the US Constitution, and then my State too....

Most of what you mention can't be done by Congress, without the President's signature. Some can be if it requires funding and Congress was designed to control the Executive via the "Power of the purse", which ended the Vietnam war. Yes, they can cut funding for parts of the ACA, but I'm sure their first effort will be to repeal the ACA which will be costing ALL Americans (including middle income) more than they can afford, much less destroying the medical system the world depends on.

As for "Keystone", Obama will probably veto any bill passed, but it's probable the veto will be overturned. As for where the oil goes after refining, is nobodies business...millions of items are shipped out of this country by business (large/small) every day or into the US from around the world.

Unless your talking "College Loans", the Federal doesn't fund schools now, except to support mandates/regulation set by the Federal (No child left behind etc.). You State or Local taxes support the Public Schools, even if they have no one attending.

I might agree with you over Foreign Aid, but most of it is military or other needed aid, with products produced in the US. Think ISIS has about 2B$++ of military items sent to help IRAQ defend themselves. Isolationism, went out with WWII and you as an American/Texan should be proud of the efforts made to help others defend themselves or actually maintain the peace over the years since WWII ended...well , at least until lately.

On the EPA; Your paying the cost for service/products every day for unnecessary regulations placed on business by them. I won't bother you with the waste/fraud over them in the past 6 years...

 

I'm not sure why calling this troll post in a troll thread, a "troll post" would lead to the comment being removed.

Since.... it is a troll post... in a troll thread.

 

Your first comment is nonsense, I love this Nation, not a fan of either political Party, unlike some here. Love Texas not going anywhere.

Killing ACA without a replacement would end the chances of the GOP ever hold a majority again, you do realize that don't ya. I doubt it will get done in the next 24 months in any event.

They cannot override his veto without Dem support, and they will not be getting that, or didn't you know that. The US gains nothing by the pipeline but the risks are high, not worth it and the American People once informed will agree.

Yes they do every State gets paid Federal funding for their public schools, do read more.

I am not talking about military Adie per say, some of that may still be required, but much of the Adie we send to other Nations is not military and is not even needed other than to line some pockets of people that often hate us.

The EPA can use some reforms, some regulations go too far, but most are there for good reason. All one has to do is see how our own companies act when they manufacture abroad, Mexico learned to hate us for polluting their land and waterways, nope trusting companies to mange themselves as Bush wanted to do is a fools game.

 

Oh my looks like someone here is daring the powers that be to a contest, a fools errand at best, usually learned the hard way. Now back to the topic at hand.

 

Well, in many cases that gives us a superior product to buy. But yea, if we want to be able to afford those things other countries do better than us we gotta offer something in return. The key to growing our economy is finding something that America can do better than the next guy. And lately that hasn't been easy.

But, like I said, I think self assembling software, 3D printing, bio-fabrication, robotics, intelligent prosthesis, inductive power transfer, better expert systems, and off grid power sources (like solar car charging stations and Bloom boxes) are industries where we might be able to become competitive again.



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Looks like they didn't offer Economics 101 where you went to school.

 

*shrug* If you say so.




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What a (*)(*)(*)(*).

Unconstitutional? What democratic legislation was deemed to be unconstitutional by SCOTUS?
Bill of Rights? What legislation or activity was deemed to be illegal by SCOTUS?

the ACHA, nobody wants? what a ridiculous exaggeration. And since when are laws popularity contests? Of course I have noticed conservatives rejecting their own ideas since Obama was elected.

As to the 'ridiculous" taxation inside it, what ridiculous taxation? Sure looks like the right has gotten some value out of the hundreds of millions of dollars they have spent on anti-Obamacare advertising and congressional grandstanding.

Self dependence? What the hell does that mean? Like the 65% of single moms with kids who are sole breadwinners, millions of who can't can't make ends meet without assistance? Self dependence of the millions of children that live in families below the poverty line?

Common sense? Seems as a bumper sticker from the right it is as usual neither common nor sensical.

Not sure I see where the nation;s problems are being blamed on racism nor homophobia. I see racism being an overly used epithet to explain conservative opposition, but the only homophobia I see relates the UNCONSTITUTIONAL same sex marriage ban championed by the right.

Green energy? you condemn a booming American Industry for a couple of companies that blew up after getting some available stimulus money?


Nah, what I see is that isn't a track at all. Its a series of partisan bumper stickers many of which are only remotely connected to the truth.

Its absolutely no surprise that a conservative would be ignorant of the facts, embrace distortions and once again when asked what their "track" is can only describe it in NEGATIVE TERMS OF WHAT IT IS NOT.

true to form.

 

Yawn.

I'm sorry you had to put so much work into typing all that.

You could have simply said "I'm an Obama bootlicker" and left it at that.

 

thank you for such a brilliant example of conservative deafness.

I realize it isn't hard to find myriad examples of liberal deafness, since neither side is really interested in balance, but your dismissal is such a text book example I had to point it out.

Of course I have no expectation of you being actually able justify the partisan nonsense I was responding to, nor rebut the content of my response.

Keep memorizing those bumper stickers.

 

I'm sorry this forum doesn't let me see the names you call me.
You should bypass the filter, like the Finley guy always gets away with.

Still, despite knowing that's what you stooped I won't hold it against ya.

Why are you rambling on about legislation or the SCOTUS?
I said nothing about either.

Again, making things up. I didn't say "nobody". Learn to read.

"Repeal" has won the polls since it's inception... which is why I clearly stated "most people".

Uh... this:

Obamacare contains 20 new or higher taxes on American families and small businesses. Arranged by their respective sizes according to CBO scores, below is the total list of all $500 billion-plus in tax hikes (over the next ten years) in Obamacare, their effective dates, and where to find them in the bill.

$123 Billion: Surtax on Investment Income (Takes effect Jan. 2013): A new, 3.8 percent surtax on investment income earned in households making at least $250,000 ($200,000 single). This would result in the following top tax rates on investment income:

$86 Billion: Hike in Medicare Payroll Tax (Takes effect Jan. 2013): Current law and changes:

$65 Billion: Individual Mandate Excise Tax and Employer Mandate Tax (Both taxes take effect Jan. 2014):

$60.1 Billion: Tax on Health Insurers (Takes effect Jan. 2014): Annual tax on the industry imposed relative to health insurance premiums collected that year. Phases in gradually until 2018. Fully-imposed on firms with $50 million in profits. Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,986-1,993

$32 Billion: Excise Tax on Comprehensive Health Insurance Plans (Takes effect Jan. 201: Starting in 2018, new 40 percent excise tax on “Cadillac” health insurance plans ($10,200 single/$27,500 family). Higher threshold ($11,500 single/$29,450 family) for early retirees and high-risk professions. CPI +1 percentage point indexed. Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,941-1,956

$23.6 Billion: “Black liquor” tax hike (Took effect in 2010) This is a tax increase on a type of bio-fuel. Bill: Reconciliation Act; Page: 105

$22.2 Billion: Tax on Innovator Drug Companies (Took effect in 2010): $2.3 billion annual tax on the industry imposed relative to share of sales made that year. Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,971-1,980

$20 Billion: Tax on Medical Device Manufacturers (Takes effect Jan. 2013): Medical device manufacturers employ 360,000 people in 6000 plants across the country. This law imposes a new 2.3% excise tax. Exempts items retailing for <$100. Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,980-1,986

$15.2 Billion: High Medical Bills Tax (Takes effect Jan 1. 2013): Currently, those facing high medical expenses are allowed a deduction for medical expenses to the extent that those expenses exceed 7.5 percent of adjusted gross income (AGI). The new provision imposes a threshold of 10 percent of AGI. Waived for 65+ taxpayers in 2013-2016 only. Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,994-1,995

$13.2 Billion: Flexible Spending Account Cap &#8211; aka &#8220;Special Needs Kids Tax&#8221; (Takes effect Jan. 2013): Imposes cap on FSAs of $2500 (now unlimited). Indexed to inflation after 2013. There is one group of FSA owners for whom this new cap will be particularly cruel and onerous: parents of special needs children. There are thousands of families with special needs children in the United States, and many of them use FSAs to pay for special needs education. Tuition rates at one leading school that teaches special needs children in Washington, D.C. (National Child Research Center (link is external)) can easily exceed $14,000 per year. Under tax rules, FSA dollars can be used to pay for this type of special needs education. Bill: PPACA; Page: 2,388-2,389

$5 Billion: Medicine Cabinet Tax (Took effect Jan. 2011): Americans no longer able to use health savings account (HSA), flexible spending account (FSA), or health reimbursement (HRA) pre-tax dollars to purchase non-prescription, over-the-counter medicines (except insulin). Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,957-1,959

$4.5 Billion: Elimination of tax deduction for employer-provided retirement Rx drug coverage in coordination with Medicare Part D (Takes effect Jan. 2013) Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,994

$4.5 Billion: Codification of the &#8220;economic substance doctrine&#8221; (Took effect in 2010): This provision allows the IRS to disallow completely-legal tax deductions and other legal tax-minimizing plans just because the IRS deems that the action lacks &#8220;substance&#8221; and is merely intended to reduce taxes owed. Bill: Reconciliation Act; Page: 108-113

$2.7 Billion: Tax on Indoor Tanning Services (Took effect July 1, 2010): New 10 percent excise tax on Americans using indoor tanning salons. Bill: PPACA; Page: 2,397-2,399

$1.4 Billion: HSA Withdrawal Tax Hike (Took effect Jan. 2011): Increases additional tax on non-medical early withdrawals from an HSA from 10 to 20 percent, disadvantaging them relative to IRAs and other tax-advantaged accounts, which remain at 10 percent. Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,959

$0.6 Billion: $500,000 Annual Executive Compensation Limit for Health Insurance Executives (Takes effect Jan. 2013): Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,995-2,000

$0.4 Billion: Blue Cross/Blue Shield Tax Hike (Took effect in 2010): The special tax deduction in current law for Blue Cross/Blue Shield companies would only be allowed if 85 percent or more of premium revenues are spent on clinical services. Bill: PPACA; Page: 2,004

$ Negligible: Excise Tax on Charitable Hospitals (Took effect in 2010): $50,000 per hospital if they fail to meet new "community health assessment needs," "financial assistance," and "billing and collection" rules set by HHS. Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,961-1,971

$ Negligible: Employer Reporting of Insurance on W-2 (Took effect in Jan. 2012): Preamble to taxing health benefits on individual tax returns. Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,957


You didn't know that because even after waiting to pass it before you could know what's in it.... you still didn't care what was in it.

Like the millions who are on welfare/unemployment because it's easier to take a handout than it is to learn a skill and find a job.
The ones who have caused Obama to be known as "The Food Stamp President".
We see them all over YouTube, we just don't see them driving to work.

So does everyone.

You sure have reading issues. I condemned nothing except investing in energy companies who were known to be on the verge of failure.
More than one, at that.

 

OK how would that manifest itself and how would things be different precisely?

 

When did the amount of revenue and share of income taxes paid by the rich go down? The last time we cut welfare the poor went to work and became taxpayers, why would you oppose that? Do you think the answer to our economic ails is more welfare and making it easier to come by?

 

And you think what we need now are more taxes on the rich? How will that cure our economic woes and create jobs?

And you think the way to get the economy going and get the deficit under control is to increase spending on those programs whose spending has been greatly increased the last six years? You think a bigger EPS will be good for growing the economy?

And what do the Dems hate the most?

I believe Americans know exactly what it does and overwhelmingly support what it does. It creates jobs to build it and it creates jobs to maintain it and it creates jobs to refine, yes it will be refine here in the state, and yes some will be sold here and some will be sold on the open market which affects prices globally.

Really, can you prove to me they paid more in say cap gains taxes at rates higher than where they are now?

Miniscule and necessary to our security which is the TOP spending priority of the US government.

 

What? You are saying SCOTUS never declared legislation unconstitutional?

SIGH and when foreigners try to discuss our government. SCOTUS cannot declare and constitutional amendment unconstitutional.

SCOTUS doesn't declare things illegal.

70% is not an exaggeration.

Wait I thought you like democracy?

 

let's make Congress work again, start working together again....