Liberals demand more gun control after shootings

How many were treated for mental health issues?

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Apparently Cruz was not among them.

 

I see....so you think the ex-marine with a gun will magically transport from the football field in the one minute it takes to kill seventeen kids with an AR15 due to his spidey sense warning him ahead of time? Dayum, he should just shoot the shooter in the parking lot before all this even happens.
The "Good Guy with a Gun" BS has been disproven so many times it's not even funny....Reagan was surrounded with secret service when he was shot and this school had armed security.

 

Cruz reportedly fired for 7 minutes, and dropped his weapon voluntarily.

That's 420 seconds.

There's been no mention of why he dropped his weapon, but contact with law enforcement hasn't been suggested until 80 minutes after the start of his attack. That's a whole lot of time to attack other locations. Even with this restriction things could have been a whole lot worse.

 

Dude football practice in the afternoon after school. Usually there are egresses from gym that ex marine is the first line of defense in that location. Sorry it hasn't been disproven. In fact gets confirmed several hundred thousand times a year.

 

just cause one is not filthy rich doesn't make them a nobody, why does the right only care about the rich

 

Lol.. Oh you guys. . Seems like Hillary didn't care about the working man . Remember pennsylvania, Michigan , Ohio?

 

I'm sure you can provide one instance then, where an armed security individual prevented a mass school shooting as the MUST be one out of these Hundreds of Thousands of situations where vigilantes save us innocents every year. Perhaps just a time in the past (whenever) that a teacher or coach shot someone before he shot someone else...just once would be fine.

 

and I would agree disarming the police is stupid too, but I do agree that not punishing cops that kill innocent people for no reason is also wrong

that said, some on both sides go too far, republicans war on drugs is such an example

 

and you guys voted for Trump?

 

Since schools have been gun free zones for more than 2 decades now I'm sure you realize finding such info is going to be problematic at best. And keep in mind the primary effect of such guards is meant to be prophylactic. Further most schools do not have security personnel at al and many that do don't allow them to be armed.

 

He will be on Rushmore.

 

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An armed security guard never got the chance to stop the teen gunman who murdered 17 students and staffers at a Florida high school, authorities said Thursday.

Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel confirmed that accused mass murderer Nikolas Cruz managed to shoot up the Parkland high school without ever encountering the school resource deputy.

“He was on campus and he was armed,” Israel said. “At this point, the only thing I can tell you definitively is he never encountered Cruz.”
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/cri...ncountered-rampaging-gunman-article-1.3822777

See how easy it is to cut and paste to back up a claim?

 

I'd ask the same thing of people who point to white western nations gun laws and ignore the similar gun laws of poor non white ones.

 

Honestly, yes.

Let's be completely clear here: there are regulations regarding firearms that I'm in support of that I believe can improve public safety. BUT....the 2nd Amendment clearly states that the right "shall not be infringed." Read the clearly stated intent of the Founders and we know that they intended that every citizen should have access to the very same small arms as the average soldier.

The problem is that we have not had an honest discussion of the right to bear arms from the perspective of it actually being a RIGHT. The government, as the Founders knew it would, just decided to start infringing upon the right and see if the people would do anything about it...and we didn't. The courts chose to support their overreach and the people went along with it.

 

Apparently the gop is against gun control and funding mental health

 

Thus banning personal defense firearms of any kind.

 

Why do GOP states have the most gun deaths?

 

And what did the gop do to even try to help prevent this mass shooting. Nothing. Their solution

thoughts and prayers

 

We put in place the notification system that the FBI screwed up either accidentally or on purpose. We'd like to have security systems and armed guards but apparently leftist prefer to have dead bodies to pave their way to gun control.

 

Well yeah not all students.. who in their right mind would suggest the solution to school shootings is to have fewer students?

 

Liberals demand more gun control after shootings.

Conservatives used to too before they lost their minds.

https://www.amazon.com/Rampage-Nation-Securing-America-Shootings/dp/1536618993

 

The Israelis armed school personnel in response to attacks on their kids and stopped the attacks cold.

The recommendations regarding protecting schools that came out in response to the Beslan massacre have been utterly ignored in America.

You knowledge of personal defense tactics is clearly nonexistent. Yeah, all firearms not in use are secured; but in my case my primary defensive sidearm is on my hip until I go to bed, at which point it goes into a quick release lockbox that can be accessed in less than a second and there is a matching box on my wife's side of the bed. In a cabinet next to the bed are where the tactical long guns are kept, loaded and ready to go. The front door is reinforced; no one is coming in with a simple kick. My wife and I each have security and law enforcement experience; nearly thirty years combined experience, and we've taken high level training to include two-person team tactics.

Anybody breaking into our home is going to have a war on their hands.

 

Some of them. Examples:
- Background checks are a form of prior restraint.
- The state has no standing to require a license for the basic exercise of a right
- Registration is a precondition to the exercise not inhere to same that does not serve a compelling state interest
- 'Assault weapons' are "bearable arms"; a ban on any "bearable arm" violates the 2nd.

 

The poster is simply living up to his stage name

 

How many of these shootings before, during and after the ban, involved 'assault weapons'?
Given that existing guns were not confiscated, how did the ban bring about this decrease?
Given that gun makers modifies their designs to beat the ban, how did the ban bring about this decrease?