Local covid stats

I think counting "cases" is a fool's errand unless they are broken down to DEATHS, HOSPITALIZATIONS, RECOVERED, and NEVER HAD SYMPTOMS, because the current method of reporting is misleading fearmongering.

The majority of the "cases" either never had symptoms (they were only tested/discovered because of contact tracing), or their symptoms were so mild they recovered at home like it was the flu. Few require hospitalization and even fewer die. But it doesn't help stoke fear, or justify destroying the economy, if we share those facts

I live in Florida ---- the 3rd most populous state (est. population 21 million.) We have had 46k cases, only 8k hospitalizations, and only 2k deaths. Most of our cases/deaths were Dade County (Miami), with 15k cases, 2k hospitalizations, and <600 deaths. That's more than 1/4 of our deaths and 1/3 of our cases, all in one county.

Away from there we have counties still with 10 cases and less. And many, many counties with cases aged 90's and 100's, but of course they'll be added to the COVID stats if the pass away.....

 

"Informed" and "follow the mainstream media". ROFL! Ironic indeed.

 

That is entirely inaccurate. There is a person on this forum who's grandmother passed and despite his suspicion that it was Covid related, the cause of death was declared a heart attack.

The number of deaths, from all causes, in areas which are hardest hit by Covid significantly outpace both the averages of deaths for all causes in those areas AND the number of deaths attributed to Covid-19.

 

Yay, you stumbled on upon seasonal excess deaths.

 

Yes, and the likely cause of seasonal excess deaths in the areas hardest hit by Covid is....

Covid.

 

The rate of hospitalization among those who experience symptoms is around 20%. The rate of death among those who get hospitalized is around 1/3rd. That later ratio is about the same as Ebola.

The overwhelming percentage of the people who die with the virus are dead because of the virus. In other words, they would have survived for longer, but for the virus. In fact, one study calculated that the average loss of life was between 11-13 years.

 

This claim of yours has been debunked already by other posters ---- as recently as today, even, I think. I don't know why you'd keep posting it.....

But sure, yeah, the folks in their 90's and 100's probably had many many years left If only it weren't for COVID!!!!!! Right? :ROLL:

I caught the end of something on the radio today and I'm curious to hear more, but it sounded like Colorado (which I believe has a Dem governor) is trying to make the medical folks correct their death reports and quit marking every death as COVID. I'll be curious to hear more, if I interpreted the snippet I heard correctly.

Right now it can be financially advantageous ----as well as politically advantageous, for Democrats---- to mislabeling all deaths as COVID. Which makes a wise person suspicious of any death counts, as it stands.

 

If you believe you are debunking the study by noting that a subset of the population evaluated by the study would have had a shorter expected lifespan, then you are wrong. That's why there is an average loss of life. Some would not have lived for 11-13 years and some would have lived for longer. Average all of them together and these authors found an average of 11-13 years.

Here's a discussion of the study:

COVID-19 Patients are Losing 13 Years of their Lives on Average: Study

I also do not get this notion that mislabeling deaths as Covid related is somehow a benefit to Democrats. What do they gain? You are not going to blame Trump for the deaths in those States, you are just going to blame Democrats.

On the other hand, I think there is a significant political advantage for people to mislabel deaths as not being Covid related. You want to substantiate your decision to open up the economy in your State despite not meeting the basic minimal thresholds set out by the federal government? Then just pretend that the deaths in your State are not caused by Covid. Coincidentally, the governor of Colorado set out to open his State at roughly the same time as Georgia's. And both governors are now pushing to reduce the number of deaths attributed to Covid.

 

And every other respiratory virus

 

And the same **** that causes them every year

 

The entire point of looking at seasonal excess deaths is because you are comparing the number of announced deaths, from all causes, in a given time and place against the seasonal averages for those time and places.

And Covid-19 can not be the "same ****" that causes the current tremendous spike in seasonal excess deaths because it is brand new.

 

I'm just north of you in Austin. People are social distancing and mostly wearing masks.

Austin population approx. 1 million. MSA is 5 counties with population approx. 2 million.

Deaths are Austin-Travis County only. Hospitalizations reflect the 5-county MSA.



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Williamson County, north of Austin has approx. 600,000 population (2nd highest pop. in MSA):
199 cases, 19 deaths, 17 currently hospitalized. The 17 Williamson County hospitalized are included in the Travis County dashboard above.
https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/ae30cf23f70b40fda5a4804e7601eee9

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In addition, Austin is in Region 7 of the Texas Dept of Health with 30 counties. There is no dashboard with complete stats for Texas Health Regions, but Texas started publishing nursing home and assisted-living Covid deaths this week.

Region 7 has 80 nursing home Covid fatalities and another 11 in assisted living facilities, accounting for a majority of deaths in the region.



https://www.dshs.texas.gov/regions/default.shtm
https://dshs.texas.gov/coronavirus/COVID-19OutbreaksinLong-termCareFacilities.aspx

 

The Houston health region (6/5s) has 145 nursing home and assisted-living home deaths.

Now that we've started seeing nursing facility data published, I'd be curious to know how many Covid deaths are people with in-home health care assisted living, and hospice care patients.

 

Oh aye; this is all sorts of messed up so far as clean and organized data gathering is concerned. It's like none of the 'expert' statisticians actually paid any attention to the core of their college classes on the subject. Although a bit gruesome the following meme strikes home:

 

Thank God that president who is also a BigLWCityTDSP led the way.....This OP is actually saying thanks to his leader Trump and the CDC to help guide the governors through the pandemic..

 

Hence the word "and".
It's additive to all the same old ****

 

Your posts are 99% whiff, the one above isn't in the 1%.

 

Just pass a truth in advertising type law for the media. If they lie or even bend the truth.....they get fined. We could eliminate the Corona virus debt just from CNN, PMSNBC and the NY Slimes.

 

Would they be fined if the news reporters quote a straight up lie from a politician like, "Everyone who wants a test can get a test" or Hospital staff worried about PPE is "fake news?"

 

You can where I live in Southern California. Anything from CNN, PMSNBC and the NY Slimes should be considered fake news.

 

Don't tell me young Americans don't have some of their Grand Parents can do attitude!

Young People Are Rushing To Leave Big Cities In Favor Of "Less Infected" Suburbia

"Maybe after my lease is done I should move elsewhere, to a smaller city that was less infected...."

Good thinking! Please make a point of not voting in the same kind of folks that ruined the place you left!