Make hydride legal and no need for gas. Convert water to hyrogen

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  1. OldManOnFire

    OldManOnFire Well-Known Member

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    There cannot be 'one location'?? People and vehicles, etc. travel every square inch of the US every day. It's all or nothing! It not rocket science to know what is needed.

    I don't make excuses...
     
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    You are closed-minded and uninformed...a total naysayer!
     
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    I agree on every point.

    It does seem essentially certain that political moves are going to be required in order to improve our electricity distribution system to be reliable, robust and supportive of private production of electricity for others to use from the grid. Local electric companies are unlikely to facilitate private individual production that will cut their profits and might even cause management headaches.

    It would be criminal to block home owners, apartment owners, businesses, etc. from creating electricity that can be made available on the grid for 100 more years. This is broadly cost effective today, given available solar technology.

    There IS progress on this front, but it is slow and at the political demand of individual locations - coming as demands that local utilities make moves that aren't necessarily in their own financial interests..

    As for EVs, I don't believe automakers are wrong in their announced major moves toward electric vehicles. They aren't likely to be making a mistake of that size.
     
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    Utility companies who do not produce their own power and simply buy/sell should be open-minded to buying sustainable energy. Perhaps in some areas dirty power is cheaper? In my area where we are now 30% sustainable, we have an option to use only clean power, but it's more expensive. Don't know the exact cost but it's negligible...we signed up for it years ago when it was made available and our utility bills seem about the same. Government could intervene in this area and require all utility companies to provide this option to their customers.

    Power generation and the grid are somewhat tantamount to our current private health care system. In both instances the private enterprises are large and dug in and not open to public options or cost reductions, etc. In order for both to advance and properly serve the public, government must make some difficult decisions...can they find harmony between profit motives and better serving the public??

    The US has a tremendous amount of non-arable land, some public and some private, that can facilitate solar power installations. All that is needed is the green light, investors, and an electrical grid. And properties need better battery storage to have 24/7 access to that solar power.

    I think automobile manufacturers are just like farmers...monkey-see monkey-do! If one brand finds some success other brands follow. Remember when they moved to compact cars...and later to larger cars and SUV's...then they were all over the place...and today it's back to mostly larger gas guzzlers. With EV's at 1-2% of total US production, fossil fuels vehicles still rule...
     
  5. WillReadmore

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    Fuel consumption in private automobiles was a significant factor when fuel was expensive. It changed what cars were built.

    I'm not sure what your point is about EV's. Everybody knows this is a relatively new direction. There is a penetration curve for new technology. People thought the idea of stringing wires to houses for electricity delivery was freaking insane.
     
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    Make hydride legal and no need for gas. Convert water to hyrogen

    One wonders how much energy is needed to convert water to hydrogen.
     
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    Where I live, 87 octane is $4.06/gallon and 91 octane is $4.35/gallon...diesel is $4.06/gallon.

    No point...it was just conversation...
     
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    Bob Lazar is a con man who has been thoroughly debunked by Stan Friedman. He attended a Jr College for a short time and that is it. Being a physicist myself, I can tell you that Lazar is full of BS.

    What he does with hydrogen is nothing but fun and games. It is highly inefficient which is why it isn't done. It is very easy to do things that seem revolutionary as long as you don't have to answer for the efficiency and cost.

    That said, it seems that he was at Area 51 at least once. He did produce a pay stub for about $500, And he knows the layout of the facility. And he told a reporter where to see a UFO flight.

    My theory is that he cleaned the toilets and saw some things he wasn't supposed to see.
     
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    This is the law of alternative fuels - any alternative fuel: When the alternative is less expensive, it will replace gasoline.

    All energy choices are ultimately driven by price. There is no grand conspiracy. There is no cabal of energy Lords suppressing technology. It is all about price.
     
  10. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Nah, I think you got it wrong, and so did Stanton Friedman, who placed too much weight on Lazar's academic record, and failed to realize Bob is the kind of guy who, when he sees an opportunity, will try and fake his way into a gig, if he can manage. See, its' like this.

    I really don't care if his academic record is accurate or not. He might have bedazzled some folks at the right place and right time, who were desperate for someone who might think outside of the box, someone with a little pizazz ( or so they perceived at that juncture ) and along comes this guy whose in the local papers with a rocket car, gets a good recommendation from that guy who invented the bomb, or something like that, and due to the right confluence of events, faked his way into a place where there were some real space ships at a place called S4 ( whose existence has been confirmed )..

    So, all Friedman debunked was his academic record. Naturally, a guy who goes rogue about S4 is going to be persona non grata and no one is going to admit he worked there, so any denial on that count doesn't mean much to me.

    And, his theories about how the space ships worked, don't mean much either, I mean, if he's not that much of a physicist, gets is wrong, I don't care. I mean, so what?

    So, if he's this nobody, why are the FBI bugging his phones, raiding his house? Why the subplot about his wife cheating on him, told to him by security people at S4?

    See? All that matters is whether or not there is, indeed, spaceships in a place called S4.

    That's all that matters vehicles from outer space in US possession, because, if that is true, that is historic, monu-****ing-mental, don't you think? That is the only thing that matters.

    And I think there is some compelling evidence that he did, indeed, witness them, see them, up close.
    Before your mind is absolutely closed on this, I hope it's not closed for the wrong reason, getting sidetracked on details that might seem important, but if you understood how a guy like Bob might have winged his way into a place like S4, how he pulled it off, it just might be a true story, because he's fooling lie detectors, ( all four of them, "no deception detected" all told ) experts in body language, all sorts of stuff a guy who is not trained in such things who shouldn't be fooling lie detectors and body language experts, and such, not to mention the guy, Mike Thigpen, who did the security clearances at area 51 confirmed Bob Lazar's security clearance and other things he knows that he is not supposed to know. More on that later.

    I ask you to keep an open mind, for a spell, and go on a journey with me and watch a few videos, it shouldn't take too long. I mean, if you are curious. If not, ignore and we'll go our separate ways

    First, this one: Now, I'm no astrophysicist, I don't know, but he seems to have more confidence in Lazar, at least in one respect, but an important respect.

    And he is this guy:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolph_Schild
     
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    Fascinating......
    Inventor Stan Meyer accomplished a lot on that topic as well....




    and

    http://www.theorionproject.org/en/hydroxy.html

     

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