Matt Damon on Australia's gun confiscation...I wish that could happen in my country

Yes, but that data completely kills the OP's argument. Compare those changes in rates to that of the US, who didn't impose draconian restrictions and in fact let the AWB expire.

That the laws didn't stop the shootings? Isn't that the point of gun control? It's more of a failure on the claim of "no mass shootings since 1996".

 

You are, however, apparently here to present fallacious post hoc arguments.
If you do not know what that means, look for yourself, I am not here to spoon feed you information.

 

the response by Australia was stupid, costly and raped freedom. WE have had at least 5 million more AR 15s sold in the USA in the last 20 years on top of at least 20 million more semi auto handguns and yet our crime rate is decreasing. We also made it much easier for HONEST people to carry pistols on their persons in public.

 

Indeed.
In the US, a nation with scores of millions of magazine-fed semi-automatic rifles, the LEAST likely circumstance for murder is a mass shooting with an 'assault weapon'.

 

even though the MSM does everything possible to try to convince the weak minded nut cases that they should use such a weapon!

 

The best possible scenario would be to follow in the path of Great Britain, Poland and Japan; where there are next to ZERO deaths by firearms. Of course we'd have to abolish the 2nd Amendment.

 

Which, for all practical purposes, simply will not be happening. Come up with an alternative approach, and stop proposing what is close enough to be classified as absolutely impossible.

 

It would take a major event (another Sandy Hook magnified), and some very gutsy politicians, in all legislative branches, to make this happen.

Anything less would not be nearly as effective.

I believe it's important for America to start hearing about these other countries, instead of the NRA rhetoric, which is so predominant in our society. This will set the table for the inevitable, which will probably not occur in my lifetime.

 

What part of impossible did you not get?

 

Right, because Moms, Bloomberg, MAIG, VPC, etc., have no voice in this country. What have those other countries done that's Constitutional, effective, enforceable and necessary here in the US?

 

Traffic laws don't stop traffic deaths....they reduce them

 

Compared to the influence of the NRA they have very little

 

Why is that, considering that Bloomberg out spends the NRA st every turn?

 

The NRA is very well organized and is well entrenched in our political system. Bloomberg is the new kid on the block and does not have the backing of an entire industry on his side.

 

The fewer deaths by any means in those Countries has nothing to do with fewer firearms and everything do with fewer Criminals.

 

Why does he need the backing of entire industry when he out spends the industry? Maybe it's because people ain't bing what he's selling.

 

Like large portions of the American electorate, many are are seeing the dishonest and deception posited on the people from those advocating laws creating dependencies on the government... like him or not, Trump's win is evidence of that...something few DEM have yet to come to grips with, blaming the unimaginable on an imaginary Russian conspiracy.

 

Or maybe he is the new kid on the block and it takes time to make effective change

 

Obviously you have no understanding of who or what NRA is made up of.
NRA is made up of ordinary people, members.

 

And it has the backing of an entire industry

 

What does that mean?

It's the backing of the electorate that counts.

 

As was said, what you propose is close enough to being impossible, to be accurately categorized as being absolutely impossible. For all intents and purposes, it simply is not, cannot, and will not happen in the united states. You may as well be proposing that someone can attain flight without a vehicle if they simply flap their arms hard and fast enough.

 

Very little of NRA funding comes from the industry, most is from member fees and contributions. Any enforcement from the industry comes from them recognizing the gun owners represented, no different from user groups of manufacturers like Apple or Microsoft.

 

Not when it come to lobbying. The NRA does not even have to spend that much on lobbying. The gun industry can do that....and WAY out spend Bloomberg

 

A major even is, and, IMO, hoped for by many among gun control advocates to justify their position and to sway public opinion.
Another major event is coming, but highly likely it won't be using firearms and not the hoped for results for gun control.