May 24 Dirty Donald announces largest federal layoff in a decade.

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  1. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Yep. They have fewer potholes if they'd quit tearing up the street with in days of repaving it!
     
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    Bad planning indeed :)
     
  3. garyd

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    More like no damn planning worthy of the name. But you can bet your bottom dollar someone somewhere is making some money, and it anin't the poor bastard in the hole with the shovel and five supervisors watching him dig.
     
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    Agreed ;)
     
  5. 61falcon

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    [Dirty Donald is on a torrid pace to dwarf Obamas additions to the National debt and he inherited a great economy ,unlike Obama who was left with the GW Bush fiscal crisis clean up.QUOTE="garyd, post: 1070609579, member: 59458"]See post 21. And that 80 to 90% didn't work to well for China either[/QUOTE]
     
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    BS Trump inherited an economy that was only marginally better than stagnant.
     
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  7. 61falcon

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    The STOCK MARKET VALUES MORE THAN DOUBLED IN OBAMAS 8 YEARS!!!!And the dollars value reached new highs after tanking under Bush!!
     
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    You'd be referring to "quantitative easing". where Obama printed more money to pump into the stock market
     
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    Well of course with QE in full sway we were very nearly paying the gamblers to gamble.
     
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    There was also a substantial layoff of White House staff. Offset that against what other presidents have spent on golf, and the golf is not that big a deal. Of course, the left would never mention that because it is a good thing.
     
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    I do acknowledge your good point--the government is hugely bloated. Yes, that is a fact.

    The point is that Trump is letting go federal workers in all the wrong places. He should start with the Pentagon and other branches of the supremely bloated War Of Terror Wehrmacht the taxpayers support.

    There are better candidates than land management agencies it seems to me, and Trump is no skilled business manager. He is a cheat and a scoundrel, and the record is clear on that.
     
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    I can't get worked up too much about the immigration "debate". Such flaming xenophobia is not rational.
     
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    Yeah Obama and the DNC Congress did a great job of making sure their rich donor investors got rich. Great for Wall Street...bad for Main Street
     
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    Link?
     
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    Did that very thing three times in four years in our neighborhood. Said they needed to raise it from class3 to class5, followed the next year with a 24" natural gas pipeline, two years later the sewer went in.
     
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    NOW is the time to cut back the government workforce. We have the lowest unemployment rate in most of our lifetimes. It's a win-win opportunity for us to free up some of the unused productivity that we are paying the government to siphon off.
     
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    The record is clear?
    The record is clear in the book of people who hate successful people. Among business people, he is known as a hard-nosed player who plays to win, and I would certainly be hesitant to compete in his game. Not someone to take lightly- but not a scoundrel either, unless you are the loser he beat- then, like HRC, he must have cheated;... and it's so unfair; he's a scoundrel.

    As citizens- we have little real view of what is proper balance in the employment of these agencies. Worse, private judgment of them comes from dozens of different objectives. You for example obviously think the military is over-sized, and we could get by with less. Problem with that is should a military emergency strike, we don't have time to re-build an army or arms. I know that we must be strong and prepared, and at the same time- hope that strength will never be needed. But I know that if we are not, everything could be lost because we saved money by not being prepared. The world is not completely filled with peaceful people.

    If I hire a manager, I don't micro-manage his job or question his every move. If he fails to get results in the overall, I will replace him. But I will not make all the decisions for him and then hold him responsible for the outcome. Nobody's perfect, and Trump just like you and I- will make mistakes. Sometimes I disagree- but the odds of those of us in the back of the bus being right when the guy in the drivers seat makes a different call are very poor. I think we should have opinions- and I think most of us do too little to educate ourselves before we form them.
     
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    I'm 71 and have known for years that DJT was an arrogant and dishonest man, back when he and I both were in our 30's. That's why I could not vote for him.

    Now that so many have examined the record in detail and written books about him, my perceptions from those days have been validated. I just finished David Cay Johnston's book "The Making of Donald Trump".
     
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    The problem with reverting to inapplicable buzzwords like "xenophobia" is that it eliminates the possibility of a practical debate on the issue.

    Good job!
     
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    Is this true? Can I see the source?
     
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    I'm a bit your senior. I would hope you are not under the illusion that any politician is actually honest- although the vast majority do what Trump does not, which is to maintain a completely false image for public view.
    Politics is dirty business, and nice guys just wouldn't survive in any office above state legislatures. Honesty in many situations is a selective thing. You can believe strongly in something and be totally loyal to it, and still be willing to push the rules when the game requires it. All politicians do that too- but they object when someone else does it better.

    I agree Trump is arrogant, but he is also powerful enough to back it up. Try reading some books on the alternatives, such as "Clinton Cash", or one written by retired secret service agents who categorized being assigned to HRC as punishment. They knew the non-public person, and the stories of her personality and character are downright scary, like a Jekyll & Hyde kind of person.

    Another that I can't recall the name of, which documented the full Clinton history, asks readers a very interesting question- "How many people have you personally known in your life that disappeared or died under mysterious circumstances?" The average person will have know one or two. The Clintons- 90. Despite Trumps faults- and most people's dislike revolves over personality and personal issues- Trump gets things done. He's demanding results- and that is not Washington's norm, and that alone has created enemies for him. I ask myself two questions- 1, what kind of mess we would be in now if Clinton had won, and 2- how much more could have been accomplished in the last two years if we had bipartisan cooperation to work together, instead of the hate-circus we have now.

    People's reputations are generally fabricated. Many people have cultivated ones, such as movie stars of the past. Others posture and create their own faux image. IF you don't do that, having a good image is actually pretty hard to do- because most people don't like too much truth. We need to look behind the facades and the publicity whenever we can.
     
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    The source was the Washington Post!!!!As I said in my original post!
     
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    That word makes you uncomfortable, eh?

    That says something itself. Maybe it hits too close to home?
     
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    You and I agree that the Clinton crime family thrives in Washington DC.

    But that does not mean that DJT is any less criminal.

    They are both criminal families, and when combined with the Bush crime family, and given that many crooks from all those families have been known to play golf together, well, I guess you're quite right: the federal government is and has been run by crooks for decades at least. Trump fits right in.
     
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    At least most of these are in red states. He is killing his own base, so....no sympathy from me.
     

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