McCain: "GOP is killing itself"

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  1. AceFrehley

    AceFrehley New Member

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    PF lib: Obama is president, dammit!

    Awesome job, professor Strawman. You just won a debate no one was engaging in! LOLOL!
     
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    Obama said "my Muslim faith". True or false?

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    Obama said "my Muslim faith". True or false?
     
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    LOL , the ONLY way Dujac can "win" a debate is to argue with no one. I mean seriously my 8 year old could whip his ass in a debate.

    The next fact that Dujac posts will be the first.
     
  4. dujac

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    i quoted the exact conversation

    your can stick with your stupid insinuations, but it's a losing proposition

    as can be easily seen by looking at the vote results in the past two presidential elections

    even mccain was smart enough to abstain from the accusation, the reason is he knew it was a lie for losers


    Obama’s verbal slip fuels his critics

    ST. LOUIS, Mo. - Sen. Barack Obama’s foes seized Sunday upon a brief slip of the tongue, when the Democratic presidential nominee was outlining his Christianity but accidentally said, “my Muslim faith.”

    The three words — immediately corrected — were during an exchange with ABC’s George Stephanopoulos on “This Week,” when he was trying to criticize the quiet smear campaign suggesting he is a Muslim.

    But illustrating the difficulty of preventing false rumors about his faith from spreading, anti-Obama groups within one hour of the interview had sliced it out of context and were sending it around via email. They also were blogging about it.

    Mr. Obama, who is a Christian and often proudly speaks about how his faith has influenced his public service, said he finds it “deeply offensive” that there are efforts “coming out of the Republican camp to suggest that perhaps I’m not who I say I am when it comes to my faith.”

    The exchange came after Mr. Obama said that Republicans are attempting to scare voters by suggesting he is not Christian, which McCain campaign manager Rick Davis said was “cynical.”

    Asked about it on ABC, Mr. Obama said, “These guys love to throw a rock and hide their hand.”

    “The McCain campaign has never suggested you have Muslim connections,” said Mr. Stephanopoulos, who repeatedly interrupted Mr. Obama during the interview.

    “I don’t think that when you look at what is being promulgated on Fox News, let’s say, and Republican commentators who are closely allied to these folks,” Mr Obama responded, and Mr. Stephanopoulos interrupted: “But John McCain said that’s wrong.”

    Mr. Obama noted that when Republican vice presidential nominee Gov. Sarah Palin “was forced” to talk about her pregnant 17-year-old daughter, he issued a forceful statement to reporters that the line of inquiry was “off limits.” But he said the McCain campaign tried to tie him to “liberal blogs that support Obama” and are “attacking Governor Palin.”

    “Let’s not play games,” he said. “What I was suggesting — you’re absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith. And you’re absolutely right that that has not come.”

    Mr. Stephanopoulos interrupted with, “Christian faith.”

    “My Christian faith,” Mr. Obama said quickly. “Well, what I’m saying is that he hasn’t suggested that I’m a Muslim. And I think that his campaign’s upper echelons have not, either. What I think is fair to say is that, coming out of the Republican camp, there have been efforts to suggest that perhaps I’m not who I say I am when it comes to my faith — something which I find deeply offensive, and that has been going on for a pretty long time.”

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/sep/7/obama-verbal-slip-fuels-his-critics/#ixzz2dCM2kdhb
     
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    Shifting gears to vague attacks and more Strawman arguments? At least now it is clear you know you have lost the debate.
     
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    At least he acknowledges that "conservatives" whisper their lies as opposed to "liberals" who just stand up look you right in eye and flat out lie and expect the whole world to believe it..
     
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    nothing i've written is vague or unsupported, just the opposite, it's clear and referenced by reliable sources

    oh look, another joke
     
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    Look, it's colder in winter and that's final!

    Like my doo-jac impression?

    LOL
     
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    What a terrible doo jac impression. I mean for one thing your statement was factually correct, something doojac never does . LOL
     
  10. dujac

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    what's funny how you can't refute the facts i've posted about what was said in the interview and what it means
     
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    His brother is a member of the Muslim Brotherhood, his father and step father as islamic fanatics, he's a muslim terrorist in disguise in the White House.
     
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    using that line of thinking, there wouldn't be any christians at all
     
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    Hahahahahahaha!!!!!
     
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    what's funny how you can't refute the facts i've posted about what was said in the interview and what it means
     
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    What it means is entirely open to interpretation. Obama "accidentally" saying "my Muslim faith" ("corrected" by Stephanopolous) may mean he misspoke, or it may mean Obama actually is of Muslim faith. No one can do more than speculate.

    True or false?

    (That is your cue to change the subject again)

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    What it means is entirely open to interpretation. Obama "accidentally" saying "my Muslim faith" ("corrected" by Stephanopolous) may mean he misspoke, or it may mean Obama actually is of Muslim faith. No one can do more than speculate.

    True or false?

    (That is your cue to change the subject again)

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    What it means is entirely open to interpretation. Obama "accidentally" saying "my Muslim faith" ("corrected" by Stephanopolous) may mean he misspoke, or it may mean Obama actually is of Muslim faith. No one can do more than speculate.

    True or false?

    (That is your cue to change the subject again)
     
  16. dujac

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    that's sheer stupidity

    obama and dozens of other have explained exactly what was said and what it meant
     
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    The truth can be expedient.

    When crackpots bray that the President is a foreign-born, madrassa-indoctrinated disciple of an ex-marine Chrisian minister, a 60s radical at age 6, and a marxist-socialist-communist who has presided over a monumental rise in corporate profits, CEO salaries, and record-high Dow Jones averages, whilst nationalizing nary a single industry, normal folks begin to suspect they may well be a teensy bit doolally tap.

    His most radical move? Enacting WillardCare! Perchance, he's a closet venture capitalist Republican Mormon as well.

    (I withdraw that vile slur. Sorry.)
     
  18. AceFrehley

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    And what it means is subject to interpretations of anyone who cares to interject. Dozens of people say it means something different. You are certainly entitled to your own opinion. You are not entitled to wrongly say the opinions of others are facts. Stop being so dishonest.
     
  19. dujac

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    of course you're free to give it some looney, moonbat interpretation

    feel free to do so, that's what cost you guys the last two presidential elections
     
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    Translation: doojac, you're getting your ass kicked. Allow me to interject with some better subject-changing and tap dancing to help you out. It is best we avoid facts and reality- as usual.
     
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    oh look, another false interpretation

    keep up the good work, elections aren't far off
     
  22. AceFrehley

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    Translation: you are correct, Ace. It is all interpretation. How about another strawman to ease my pain of admitting you are correct?

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    False, according tk one of the biggest koolaid drinkers on the board.
     
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    either your translator is broken or you're delusional
     
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    No, I am perfectly happy with how this exchange has worked out. You just admitted the "my Muslim faith" was subject to interpretation. You agreed with my point there. You proved my point about "my Muslim faith" by providing the video. You have conceded or proven my main two points. Obviously, you've felt you've needed to include a lot of personal attacks along the way. That's fine, I know it's tough for you to face reality without doing that.

    I hope you'll just save some time next time and not keep posting your straw man arguments. Or not. Either way, it's a hoot to watch you squirm and babble.

    Have an awesome day!
     
  25. dujac

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    no, i didn't
     

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