McCarthy: Democrats Must Cap Spending to Avoid US Debt Default

This is an interesting question, though. You pose the profit motive as an excuse for costs and corporate behavior.

Let's remember that 15% to 30% of healthcare costs is in ADMINISTRATION!

https://www.healthaffairs.org/do/10.1377/hpb20220909.830296/

This is an area where single payer systems have a major advantage in cost savings.

In our system, customers, insurance companies and providers face a MAZE of overlapping policies and requirements. The result is that there are employees everywhere you look whose whole job is to navigate and maintain that maze.

 

LOL. So you deny that your stats are an average of all US healthcare? Really?

 

My healthcare is better than any other country. Always has been, even when I was poor. So, don't go messing with my healthcare and don't go lying to me that my healthcare is not better than other countries.

 

I know who you care about.

But, then you pop off on our spending, etc.

 

Thanks for admitting you know there are many in the US who have better healthcare than in other countries.

 

It's still the case that in the USA we spend WAY more than other countries.

And, for that we get WORSE life expectancy:
https://www.healthsystemtracker.org...pending (2021 or nearest year, PPP adjusted) 

Plus, our HC costs are growing at a rate larger than GDP growth.

I know who you care about - YOU.

But, the issue here includes how we spend on healthcare and what we can do about it.

 

You have show no such thing - either about healthcare or about what I've said.

Other first world countries have higher life expectancy, for just one example.

 

Again, resources. That would require an investigative team to research each and every applicant.
Which I think, happens sort of, for each applicant has to prove a need. Has to prove an income. And it's all documented.
So, if after the fact, they lied on the application, fraud is found.

Again and again and again, I have said, to do the level of fraud investigation you want, requires money and resources.
How much do you want to spend to save X amount of $$?

 

I am not against it in any way shape or form.

I detest those that think it should only happen under Dem gov't control.
And R gov't control, none of you ever care about debt/deficit. See every R president and congress control. They spend more than D's many times.

It's the hypocrisy I'm against.
If you have a value stick to it, regardless of R or D control.

As an independent, I know both parties like to spend.
You on the other hand, only see the dems as bad. That is in no way, shape, or form, independent thinking. That is partisanship to the core.

 

I bet many have lower birth mortality rates as well.

 

I don't want other peoples socialized medicine either.
I want all of our people/citizens to have access to healthcare without using the emergency room. Which is the HIGHEST cost of healthcare.
Every citizen should have access to preventative health care.

 

Insurance companies kick people off their plans when they become more costly than their premiums.

IE, get cancer, get cancelled.
Now that's not a literal statement. But insurance companies do kick people off their plans. But not 100% of the time. But to make a profit. They sure would like to.

 

Because you got it wrong Blues.

 

Many of these budget items come from previous administration's, including Trump's. Some go all the way back to the Roosevelt administration. Both parties have pushed their favorite spending laws. Your analogy is merely ridicule and hyperbole.

 

If the problems are administrative, congress need not be involved. If the problems are from scam artists, that falls under the purview of the Office of Investigations, which is part of the Office of the Inspector General.

As for your second question: those are problems requiring congressional legislation.

 

I believe if we end the war on drugs, like alcohol, people will not get stuff laced with fentanyl as they will buy from a store

people used to die from bad moonshine in the past too

the mistake you make is thinking illegal means people won't get drugs, the war on drugs has been going on for decades, did it solve the problem?

 

there is a lot of waste to cut

but with are booming elderly in this country, cutting social security and medicare is not wise

 

I think most of those posting on this forum about SS and cuts, are already receiving SS.
What they seem to want is to cut it for their kids and grandkids.

It's like I got mine, screw the rest of you.

 

The thread is about debt. As you can see, GWB increased debt every year he was in office.
In spite of what he may have done with discretionary spending. It's the overall spending and revenue intake that makes up deficits and debts.

https://www.thebalancemoney.com/bush-administration-economic-policies-3305556

 

This thread is about Republicans asking Democrats to help reign in spending while preventing the US from defaulting on our debt.

Debt isn't linear based on legislation passed that year. Your chart is misleading. The biggest contributor to the increased debt is mandatory entitlements, not $100b in military spending.

Also, keep in mind Presidents do not determine the spending. Congress does. Based on your graph, the worst offending years for debt increases came while Democrats had control of the House and Senate. So basically, your silly argument that makes little sense on its own is actually proving you wrong. And, it does nothing to counter any statement I made that you're responding to.

I didn't take you as someone who wanted to defund Social Security and Medicare. Now I know...

 

I understand that at this point in time I'm being idealistic, but what I'm saying is that US drug policy should be based on facts and not on religious wishes and dogma, not on dreams. I'm saying US drug policy should be based on reality and be in accordance with the letter and spirit of the founding document. That law points out that the federal government has no authority to tell the citizen what he may or may not ingest.

 

Which, as I showed you, Republicans are hypocrites on the topic.
For, as I showed you, R's spend like drunken sailors then they are in power. And don't care about asking Dems to help reign in spending. They are responsible just as much as Dems in increasing debts and deficits.

So, tell them and their voters to stop this blatant hypocrisy and do what is right to NOT DEFAULT.
And then tell them to ACTUALLY put their money where their hypocritical mouths are and actually care about the issue when they have the power to do so.

As for your comment on what you think I want on SS. Making up crap like you did is a very poor argument.
Try dealing with facts as stated instead of make believe.

 

Republicans are hypocrites to some extent on this topic, but not because of the reasons you "showed" me. Having the correct conclusion while using faulty logic to get there isn't a strong debate tactic, but I respect that you're sticking with it.

 

Go start a thread on legalizing all drugs and letting the cartels bring in as much fentanyl as they plead then.

That will NOT balance the budget or ease or fiscal woes.