Migrants clash with Greek police at border after Turkey opens floodgates

Germans complained they took in 1 million refugees.
There are millions upon millions of refugees in Turkey, and the country aint as rich as Germany by far.
So sorry you think Turkey needs to be a hotel for free for all of them. While it's obviously way too much to ask.

 

The population of migrants on the island of Lesbos, is twice that of the local population. The same is probably true of Chios, Samos, and Kos. Athens was ready to build a 'hospitality' center on the Aepos mountain which overlooks the town of Vrontados which is my maternal heritage - and the most beautiful village in Greece. I feel for it.

Anyway the people on the islands can't take it anymore. They want those people OUT. If they were Christians it would be different, then they would be able to assimilate, but they are not.

This is my ancestral parish. Isn't it beautiful?

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You get a "refugee" from say Afghanistan. He or she claims they are persecuted
(in most cases they are not - I know many Afghanistan "refugees")
And now they are in Turkey WHERE THEY ARE NOT PERSECUTED.
So what's the problem? Turkey not good enough? Go to Greece. But Greece isn't
good enough so go to France. But France isn't good enough and you want to go
to Germany. Why not then go to America? New York is cold, but Hawaii is good, isn't it?
If you are a refugee then you don't pick and chose your country.

 

Hang on.
You claiming the Taliban aint persecuting people in Afghanistan, so there aint no such thing as an Afghan refugee?
Good lord. How low the GOP is going to fit things in their agenda. lol

Turkey has no obligation to lock up non Turkish people who cross their border illegally, so they can't move to the next country.
Your point is mute.

 

Don't cry for Turkey. They are not a poor country, and they brought it on themselves when they tried to overthrow Assad by establishing the 'Free Syrian Army'; Turkey's so called 'moderate' terrorists who are really one and the same with Al Nusra. Erdogan invited the Syrian refugees in with the hope of establishing a no fly zone that Turkey would administer and later annex.

Also the Turkish authorities and coast guard were making a fortune from the trafficker's, who were charging an arm and a leg to get the refugees and migrants to Europe. Just to cross the 4 to 8 miles to a Greek island, they had to pay $10 thousand a head - and 4 thousand were crossing a day. You do the math.

Children were being sold life jackets with foam in them, so if the dinghy turned over, they sank to the bottom immediately. The morgue in Lesbos was packed, and many were children. One person said she couldn't go to town, because seeing them made her sick. The Turkish coast guards were also seen overturning the dinghy's. They might have been Syrians or Kurds, or maybe they didn't pay them enough - who knows?

 

Pff. This all started way earlier when the US deliberately created anarchy in Iraq. It was under the GOP's watch that ISIS was created, and that spread to Syria. It's all their fault, and not the fault of Turkey who is only coping with that fallout the US created. And it still is that Germany whined about that 1 million refugees, while Turkey who is far more poor than Germany copes with 3 to 4 million refugees.

There is no Turkish policy to give help out traffickers for any kind of money. You're just making it all up... again.

fake news from Islamophobic websites.

 

'Frontex' that protects the EU's borders, has seen the Turkish coast guards helping the trafficker's and the migrants even before the refugee crises started - so don't present the Turks as being innocent. I read too many of Erdogan's speeches, and know too much of what he has said to ever believe anything coming from him.

That being said, what obligation does Germany have to the migrants or to Turkey? Since they're Muslims, shouldn't it be Saudi Arabia's responsibility and not Germany's or Europe's?

 

I worked with a community of Afghan refugees in Australia.
None of them were actual refugees. They came to Australia to take
advantage of better opportunities. They certainly weren't a burden
on our country as they held jobs and worked hard. But they were
not refugees.
To prove the point - they would go home each year on holiday.
I know of about 100 people claiming refugee status. Not one of them
actually was a refugee. Just one man, who told me on his retirement
day that Stalin took his father and Hitler took his mother - and we
walked across Europe, fleeing the red army. He was taken to Aust'
as a refugee. THAT'S a refugee.
If Turkey has a problem with people entering their country then they
should send them back where they come from - not use them as pawns
in their spats with Europe.
When all of Europe is Islamic then Brussels, Paris, Rome and London
are going to be no different than Kabul, Amman, Damascus and Cairo.

 

Go source it.

They are refugees. And according to EU laws, they get refuge. And Germany is unable to deport them back to Turkey. Turkey simply won't let them pass through customs. duh!

First of all.... nothing makes SA responsible for anybody who just happens to be Muslim.
You're just keen to discriminate Muslims when you're bringing that up.
And 2nd. SA already has 1/2 a million from Syria.

And it's the US who is responsible for that mess.

 

If Turkey will become a part of the EU, then no need to open the floodgates anymore, they only have to stay in Turkey get a both EU and Turkish citizenship at the same time instantly. That is why Turkish EU membership is vehemently rebuffed.

 

Yeah. And the Taliban is not an oppressive violent regime.
whatever. lol

Yeah... people are burned alive in Syria etc. And you demand such a person must be send to it's mass grave.
That's just utterly disgusting. It's like kicking a Jew back in the hands of the Nazi's and think nothing of it.

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/isis-video-shows-jordanian-pilot-being-burned-to-death/

 

Not every single Afghan is being persecuted by the Taliban.
Most in fact are in favor of them.
If you have an issue with Syrian refugees then you hold them
in camps where they can be housed and fed by the UN and
international agencies - then when the fighting is over you
send them home, or integrate them as good Muslims into
your own nation.
You don't forward them to third countries.

 

Plenty of other war lords that kill people in Afghanistan. Your idea it's safe there, is a total joke.

Yeah... put them in concentration camps. Hope the world gives enough aid. Sure.
There are plenty of such camps. The can't cope with the millions and millions of people.
And Turkey is not obligated to keep them if they don't want to stay.
So your idea's are just juvenile and simplistic.


There are also a heck of a lot of refugees in Lebanon. The country just crashed / went bankrupt. Lack of support for the millions of refugees that they got. You think them refugees will stick around and hope aid will come now the country went bankrupt?

 

So you are saying that Turkey isn't obligated to help. But... Greece, Italy and the
rest of Europe ARE obligated? No they are not.
And the problem for Europe is worse than it is for Middle East countries due to
the fact these are Muslim immigrants with values at odd with Christian Europe
(ideas about religion, separation of church and state, tolerance, respect for
minorities, liberalism, democracies etc.. Having not had a scientific revolution
or an Enlightenment for instance.)

 

What I stated is fact. There are loads of videos and I heard the people myself on the dinghy telling of their ordeals, how much they were charged, etc.,etc. The ones working to help the refugees, said they could see the Turkish coast guard at times through their binoculars trying to overturn the dinghys.

The Turkish police were seen by 'Frontex' members in helicopters helping the trafikkers - and that was before the refugee crises. Now are you going to tell me the trafficker's who were making millions a day weren't sharing their money with the police and coast guard? As for the life jackets with foam, the person who was selling them turned out to be a merchant in the city of Cesme. There are some very rotten people in the world.

 

If anyone has any doubts as to Turkey's intention towards Greece and Europe, then they should watch this video from the French public service station. It's about the genocide and ethnic cleansing of Christians in Northern Syria by Turkey and ISIS. These were the people Assad was protecting in Aleppo and Damascus, but to Washington and the MSM he was the villain, not the terrorists.

 

So it's fake news and the Turkish 'commandos' are not at the border? Here's the Evros River that separates Greece from Turkey, and from what I see, there's quite a bit of movement on the other side.

 

So the Turkish soldiers weren't there? Guess again! Here's another video from the Turkish side, and they sure look like soldiers to me. Looks like they're ready to shoot at any migrant swimming back - either that or to provoke the Greeks. Take your pick.

 

I never stated that. I stated that those countries are not able to deport illegal immigrants back to Turkey.

That's just an irrelevant, racist, discriminatory, biased and xenophobic rant.

 

source it.

source it.

 

That's a Russian propaganda outlet. And you can't make up anything from it.
Good lord. lol

 

It's a bit disturbing to know you find that youtube is a credible source.
I found something equally credible:


For realz man! lol

 

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The credibility comes from seeing something with one's own eyes instead of having it impressed in one's mind through propaganda.

 

If russian propaganda youtube vids is all you got, than I'm rather sure we're done. lol