Military officers want a new investigation

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  1. LogicallyYours

    LogicallyYours New Member

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    Well, luckily for you, your claims are not rooted in facts or reality so, you have nothing to worry about.
     
  2. Hannibal

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    What consequences has anyone suffered for what they say here?
     
  3. genericBob

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    Big Brother is collecting information and waiting,
    that is one very large potential threat in that the body
    of law, is so large that any given citizen has most probably
    violated several of these laws without knowing at all.

    the other thing about the potential for oppression is
    that now employers are looking at peoples on-line doings
    and passing judgement on who is suitable for employment
    and who is not. This is one of the reasons why you see
    in the various lists of people who have appeared publicly
    to support the truth movement, a lot of retired or at least
    financially independent individuals who can afford to speak
    out and if any given corporation ( the management there of )
    were to reject this individual, no problem because this person
    doesn't need anything from them.

    its the wage slaves, the masses living on a slim margin
    who are vulnerable and therefore kept silent or at least
    relegated to speaking out by way of anonymous internet accounts.

    The logic & reason is there, its all there to see in plane site
    the very same standards that existed pre-9/11 if applied to
    the events of 9/11 would surely bring howls of protest from
    all quarters, but the evil magic that has been worked, changed
    the standards so the masses will accept total garbage as "evidence"
    that hijacked airliners were flown into buildings and nobody is being
    held accountable at all. 9/11 is truly the crime of the century, and
    no, it was not the product of crazy Arabs.
     
  4. Jango

    Jango New Member

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    Being scrutinized & monitored by intelligence agencies. You know, like how opponents of the President & his party were targeted by the I.R.S.

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    Be specific, what have I said that was allegedly "not rooted in facts or reality"?
     
  5. Jango

    Jango New Member

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    1) Intelligence agencies are collecting every scrap of information on us that they can. As one document illustrates, the N.S.A.s goal is to Collect it all, Process it all, Exploit it all, Partner it all, Sniff it all & Know it all.

    2) I'm going to push back against the notion that 9/11 wasn't operationally conducted by al Qaeda. Why? Because al Qaeda DID operationally carry out 9/11.
     
  6. genericBob

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    and so with a sig line like that, you must understand
    that the system lies to the public 24/7 so as to manipulate
    and use/abuse the working class of this planet.

    right?
     
  7. Jango

    Jango New Member

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    Yes, we do get lied to on a consistent basis but we don't get lied to to an absolute extent like all of the time. Truth is often mixed with lies, distortions, omissions etc but we do get some truth. The Internet has helped in that regard.
     
  8. Stndown

    Stndown Banned

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    I dunno. People are so stuck to their tweets and facebook posts, I doubt they ever have time for finding any truth. Only important stuff like 'hey everybody, look at my kid's 697th picture' kind of nonsense. People are very dumbed down.
     
  9. Jango

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    Its been that way for a long time though. The Romans watched gladiators fight in the Colosseum. The stage arts were introduced. Sports were introduced.

    Nowadays, a lot of people would rather not pay any attention to the news I.e. what's occurring around them because ignorance is bliss & it's too damn depressing anyway.
     
  10. Stndown

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    That's probably true but, people shouldn't wonder why the world is so damn depressing either. They reap what they sew, in my opinion.
     
  11. LoneStrSt8

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    [video=youtube;nC1yLD7R0ZU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nC1yLD7R0ZU[/video]
     
  12. Stndown

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    I don't do abstract attempts at communication through pictures and better than I respond to insults, or other forms of interference running.
     
  13. Jango

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    A lot of the depressing going-ons in the world are outside of our already limited control. Like, what's a private citizen from any U.S. state supposed to do about the fat ass tyrant in North Korea and how he treats his people? You don't even have to look outside the U.S. to find something depressing. But, there again, what are private citizens supposed to do about any of it? "Vote in the right people," is a common expression, one of which is full of idealism & not realism. Or, the N.S.A. is spying on us. Again, what are we supposed to do about it? Answer: nothing. Because there isn't a damn thing we can do about it except make it even worse for ourselves.
     
  14. Jango

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    Yeah, I love a lot that is contained within our conceivable world. But I always fall back to a philosophical question: do good things outweigh bad things?
     
  15. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    Aren't you just the ray of frackin' sunshine?

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    Yes they do.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    most military officers and veterans don't want a new 9-11 investigation.
     
  17. Hannibal

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    They absolutely do.
     
  18. Stndown

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    Hit their pocketbooks, and stop functioning IMMEDIATELY, as an entire society. Stop playing their game, in mass numbers. There ARE things we can do about it. We CAN demand the truth. Will we? Probably not so, you're correct in that aspect. Voting is a bit of a sham but unfortunately, it's all we 'common people' have left. Yeah, we could make it worse for ourselves but, why not take them down with us? Otherwise, we keep accepting the status quo, and keep inviting more bad things to happen. Fight the system, in any way possible, to address change. Otherwise, things WILL NOT ever change.

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    Total non sequitur there, without doubt.
     
  19. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    Seems you DON'T know the meaning of the word...
     
  20. Jango

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    I tend to agree.
     
  21. Jango

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    1) An economic shutdown like that would lead to darker places than where we are now, though, man.

    2) Yes, we can demand the truth, which many people already do, but the point I was & still am driving it is that we cannot make them tell us the truth and if we try to force them, we're opening the door ourselves to dark places.

    3) Want to know why voting is sham? Let's take an honest good intentioned person as an example. They are elected as either a Representative or Senator. They will then take 1 of 2 courses: 1) be ostracized for going against the status quo or 2) eventually become co-opted.

    4) We wouldn't take them down with us, man. If there was an uprising, they would go into their continuity of government doomsday bunkers, which we have 0% chance of getting in to get at them because 1) we don't have the weaponry to do so & 2) their War Machine is the greatest our species has ever seen.

    5) Honestly man, you need to learn acceptance. Kind of like when you're in an adult relationship with a woman worth her salt, the man knows his place because it's called P.O.T.P. man. The more you fight either, government or women, the deeper you'll sink yourself in the proverbial quicksand. It is better to just accept what's around you because there is no such thing as changing it for our benefit, it is too far gone & out of our control. That's just the reality of the situation, nothing more.
     
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    "I tip my hat to the new constitution ..."
     
  23. LoneStrSt8

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    'You say you got a real solution,well you know we'd love to see the plan'
     
  24. genericBob

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    for all too many possibilities of what is to come in the future
    all roads lead to that darker place. one way or another.
    the key bit of strategy is to figure out how, ( if that be possible )
    to come out of that darker place in a better position for
    a truly "fair & balanced" society, rather than the present situation
    of the "ruling class" get to flaunt disregard for the same laws that
    apply to the working class and therefore create a division.
    The founders of the U.S.A. ( at least some of them .... )
    had in mind a totally class-less society, it has obviously gone
    off the rails since then.

    This raises the question of how should humans live on this planet,
    if we are cutting timber faster than it grows, ( etc..... )
    what is to happen to some future generation of humans who
    must do without the luxuries that we enjoy because the resources
    have all been used up?
     
  25. Stndown

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    I guess that would depend on what one calls for and accepts as the truth. Some have very low standards. Others do not.
     

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