Milley, McKenzie say they recommended 2,500 troops stay in Afghanistan, after Biden claims he was ne

Hold on for the Woodward book on why none of this is the old mans fault, Biden's.

Woodward supports just Democrats.

 

"All of that blood" was in fact not that much. Total US KIA in 20 years in Afghanistan was less than 5% of our loss in Vietnam. Every death is a tragedy, but that casualty level was thoroughly sustainable, especially with an all-volunteer professional force. The British provided a model with the Northwest Frontier Force in the 19th century.

 

Biden triggered the collapse.
Trump was wrong to want to leave when he was president. He had not lost a man for his last 18 months.

When the cops went after the Mafia, they did not disband the cops after the Mafia was wiped out.

 

WITH CONDITIONS and the Joint Chief of staff, Sect of defense, and the other General confirmed were not met.

 

A good example of deaths during peace was when I was in the Army and based in Germany, we had no combat deaths yet we had deaths during routine operations.

 

ie today's House testimony

Why is the Chairman Smith constantly allowing himself more time to rehabilitate and "explain" the witness testimony without allowing the same from the ranking member? Why is he attacking Republican members and allowing other Democrats to do the same?

 

We spent 20 years denying terrorists the control of Afghanistan. Biden pissed that victory off very fast.
He blocked a pipe Canada and the USA approved and could have blocked the deal with the Taliban. Were he a leader.

 

Agreed and I say that with a Blue Star flag hanging in my window as I type. There were times the last 20 years when I had two displayed at one time.

 

Getting out of Afghanistan was a bipartisan thing. The majority of both parties wanted out, so it's absurd to be trying to blame Trump and his supporters for the disaster of Biden's pull out. Believe me, Biden didn't pull out because Trump supporters bullied him into it. This entire line of argument is absurd.

 

You and @Jack Hays bring a different and valued perspective. But I ask you both: When should US hostilities have ended? I agree that we once fought wars to their conclusions, and that should have happened in this case as well but from Vietnam onwards, we have chosen a strategy of half assing, that ends up weakening our influence in the regions that we go in, and our influence domestically as a government.

 

He is not countering the witnesses, he is countering the congress. I am shocked.

 

I am confident that Trump and Biden received the same info on Afghanistan.

 

A congressman just finished his presentation of the situation. He concluded we have no ability to impact Afghanistan unless clumsy attempts like the one killing civilians carrying water.
Well, we have bases a super long distance from Afghanistan but not in the area of Afghanistan. The Taliban have the free reign to keep their war going with us.

 

Partisan politics.

 

Biden spent his first 100 days blocking Trump. So now you claim he worked for Trump?

 

As wrong as you Woodward types claimed Trump was, how is it you approved the Doha plan?

 

He is acting like he is the legal counsel and adviser and spokesperson of the witnesses?

 

More likely for "context". To avoid partisan 'shenanigans'.

 

Trump went for about a year and a half with no hostilities.
Trump was wrong to try to bail out.

Biden had no plan. It is why things went terribly wrong for Biden. Trump had no such terrible outcomes.

Vietnam was different. I was discharged from the Army ahead of Johnson invading Vietnam. I at first assumed he had a good plan. It took time for me to realize the Johnson plan was severely flawed. Lyndon was very afraid of China. That should not have been a factor. Lyndon had he done as FDR did, would have won the war in Vietnam. (FDR conducted war as a war of destruction and not a war to please the Germans or Japanese.)

 

He is not conducting the hearing like a Chairman should. His fight is for the witnesses and against the Congress.

 

Biden Lied - People Died

Biden cost us:

• 13 great Marines - One from my hometown
• Hundreds slaughtered
• Thousands Left Behind
• Loss of Bagram Air Base
• Loss of confidence of top allies, France, UK, Australia

Biden Lied.... repeatedly.

 

Not according to General Milley.

 

And the panel was asked "who's to blame" and he gets silence. Austin asked about the worst military disaster and diverts to the WH spin about "it was the greatest airlift in history"

Well I beg to differ. Has he not heard about the Berlin airlift?

We airlifted 2.3 million tons of supplies to Berlin.

Austin bragged there was a plane taking off at one point every 45 MINUTES. In the Berlin airlift it was every 30 SECONDS. Over 300,000 flights in all. There were 272 in Afghanistan.

So can they stop trying to change the discourse with their false bravado about how SUCCESSFUL it was?

https://www.history.com/topics/cold...lin airlift, an,nearly 300,000 flights in all.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...a-visual-guide-to-flights-in-and-out-of-kabul

 

Link to the Milley statement of what you claim?

 

Washington tried to warn us.

"The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism." George Washington