MOD ALERT ~ people want God

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    not even telling him to build it, that would not make sense
     
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    LOL!!!

    I really do not understand given the TOTAL impossibility of this story as well as even if some GOD existed and just dumped enough water to raise sea levels by 5.5 miles....this IMMEDIATELY would cause the death of all life on Earth.....so given all this...why...Why........WHY.....WWWHHHHYYYYYYY.....would ANYONE believe such stupidity?

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    The Flood Story is known throughout the world. So there is some evidence of a catastrophic event given some 80000 years of mankind history.
     
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    There is zero physical evidence of a world wide flood and massive evidence to prove it didnt happen,

    So what point do you wish to actually make?
     
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    Prove it is claimed to be a worldwide flood before you make such erroneous statements.
     
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    I could very well understand such a stories origin being specific to a large flood event such as the Black Sea Deluge which I have provided links to.

    What I DO NOT understand is why some people need for others to believe the Biblical story happened verbatim as it is one thing for this story to be based upon past events....it is quite another thing for some Christian extremists to angrily defend the Biblical account and say it is word for word facts....it is NOT.

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    I believe she is making the point that some here angrily defend the Biblical Story as a fact.

    A worldwide flood is impossible and would result if some GOD just dropped that much water on Earth...result in the extinction of all life on Earth.

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    There is some physical evidence, but the fact is that the English language is very imprecise.
     
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    Taikoo is right.

    There is ZERO physical evidence of a worldwide flood but there is a great deal of physical evidence of a large local flood when the Mediterranean Sea flooded into the Black sea basin as at the time the Black sea was a much smaller than it is today fresh water lake.

    A WORLDWIDE FLOOD IS IMPOSSIBLE.

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    And since money is "god" to many people maybe that's what the OP is about.....:)
     
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    Because it is based on faith and faith is confidence in what we hope for and assurance about what we do not see.
     
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    Perhaps, but hard to judge people on an anonymous, public forum.
     
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    It depends on how you define "worldwide." If your world was confined to three square blocs and your area was destroyed, you would write that your wold was destroyed by a world wide flood.

    And that is why the English language is such an imprecise language. Your definition of worldwide and my definition of worldwide may be diffewrent based on the context of the use of the word. And that is why cultural anthropology states that such events did happen, in the eyes of the beholder.
     
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    Well over 95% of all Christian's believe it is fine to both have FAITH and understand FACTS as back in the 80's Pope John Paul II spoke to the FAITHFUL and told them that the Vatican Science Group had determined EVOLUTION to be a fact and that stories in the Old Testament should be taken for what they are...stories created by ancient man as a learning tool.

    After the Pope did this all major Christian sects followed and advised their FAITHFUL of the same...FACTS.

    All but the Evangelical Baptists.

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    There exist many Biblical Stories that have been mistranslated as one in particular Moses did NOT part the Red Sea....as when we properly translate the ancient Hebrew carved into stone tablets that depicts the history of Moses and the Hebrews leaving Egypt or Exodus....the Stone Tablets state MOSES CROSSED THE REED SEA.

    The REED SEA is a marshy tidal area filled with vegetation or reeds between the Mediterranean and Red Sea.

    Yam Suph means REED SEA...appears 23 times in the Tanakh (Hebrew Bible/Old Testament) and this was written using the Carved Stone Tablets.

    Moses in FACT...did not part the Red Sea...Moses CROSSED the Yam Suph...or REED SEA.

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    Of course there's a desire for God, 33% of humanity are Christians.

    I don't think older Bible movies were creaky and quaint - even as an Atheist some of my favorite movies centered on a Christian theme. Ben Hur, The Ten Commandments, Samson and Delilah - all great movies.

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    The biggest struggle for Biblical films in my view is avoiding being preachy. A good film on the topic shouldn't be trying to persuade you, the plot should come naturally. The movies I mentioned are examples of how to do that well. I did catch a bit of The Bible, and I feel like it somewhat missed the mark on this account. But to each their own I guess.
     
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    evolutionists believe the earth was create by what came before it, if it weren't for the stars that died before us, none of us would be here

    but that is another topic, the reviews of some of the upcoming movies look pretty good....
     
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    But you are forgetting that such stores, like the flood, have more than one purpose. One purpose is to give an account and another one is to provide some spiritual message. It is the spiritual message that must be retained and remembered, not the limited knowledge that everyone possesses.


    Evoluiton is both fact and theory. Evolution on how it explains the origins of the universe is a theory whereas evolution on how it explains species development is fact. There was nothing that Charles Darwin did that was wrong. In fact, Charles Darwin helped expand the religious definition of evolution, not science.
     
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    I really like LOST, was a great movie, they mixed in many beliefs, but they did a good job at it, a show that could of went on another season or two
     
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    The TV show?
     
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    There is dispute as to which location Yam Suph refers to. In addition, suph may refer to suphah ("storm") or soph (end).
     
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    I agree that the message and the lesson are what is important but unfortunately some Christian's refuse to come to terms with that and can only angrily fight against any understanding of the reality.

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    Digs have been done in this area that has changed over the years and found in sediments of the former Reed Sea were multiple Egyptian Chariots.

    As well the Hebrew Stone Tablets do NOT say that Moses PARTED the Reed Sea they say Moses CROSSED the Reed Sea as the depth of this tidal marshy area was on average only 10 feet and very wide and when the tide went out there was no water and the following Egyptian Army was swamped when they crossed as the tide came back in.

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    haha, I'm sure it's much simpler than that. Market economics - it's actually pretty good for God. I'm honestly looking forward to seeing some of them - Russel Crowe in a Biblical film? I can see him talking to God: "I am Maximus Decimus Meridius..." and Emma Watson? :clapping:

    And this is the first I've heard of Exodus - I'm definitely interested to see that.
     
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    I believe that science was created by God.

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    I'm with you. All of those movies were great. I'll be looking for The Ten Commandments right around Easter. I just downloaded Son of God. I'll check it out tonight.

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    Another side stepping God basher.
     
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    Now I know you're correct. Just look at the extra question marks.

    Gravity can be proven. A fish walking out of water and turning into a man is a side-show at the circus.

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    Post all the interviews from every person from those denominations who told you that with signatures on the affidavits attesting to your claim. After all, aren't you big on links and proof?

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    :roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol:

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    Then post your proof oh omniscient one.

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    Funny how none of you geniuses have put up any 'facts' yet.
     
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