<Mod Warning> Jewish Israeli arrested for bomb threats against Jews

Many Palestinian refugees went to Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Kuwait.... Lots of them in KSA in the 1950s.

 

It will but not now, we need to normelize Gaza and the WB before we withdraw land or divide areas, this "magic" wont happen the day after they declare indipendance so we better sort that out before, take the wheel back to how it was like in the 80's before the intifada broke and then establish their state.

 

You know the false flag nonesense can be pinned on everything including your strange little coup, I know how brainwashed you Turks are against us, you swallow every Arab anti semite text there is, so Im wondering why would you accept peace with Israel - or normalization - if we go back to 67 lines , if you think we are so decitful ? just an honest question...

 

I don't believe the state of Israel is at all interested in this direction. Its actions, certainly its recent actions, indicates that the intent is to progress ethnic cleansing, promote apartheid and to steal more land.

 

So fight us, what else is there ?

 

There's economic sanctions.

 

Yea it's part of fighting us, go for it.

 

He would not know that. He does not even know, hundreds of thousands of Palestinians were expelled from Kuwait because Yessir Arafat bet on the wrong horse....

 

Ha ha ha... they in turn expelled them!!! Yessir Arafat said, what Arabs have done to Palestinians is worse than Israel has ever done to them!

 

It is not fighting.

 

Refugee populations are ALWAYS a problem.. just like the Holocaust survivors.. just like the Syrians.. The Palestinians have paid the price for that NOT Germany.

 

I'm sure he used hyperbole, but in any event, they are Israel's citizens and their responsiblity.

 

I did say so in the beginning of my post, did't I? And it is you who continues to evade the fact that what Arabs have done to Palestinians is worse than what Israel has done to them. Yessir Arafat said so.

 

You're killing me

 

According to the Israelis........

 

Really...define sanctions and their objectives please.

 

So this is the worst a Jew can do, commit a bloody phone call ?
While the Islamofascist bomb each other and everybody else on daily bases.

 

The Saudis have supported the Palestinians financially since 1948 and have had Palestinians in kingdom since then.

 

160 bomb threats in the US.. two airplanes parked, cleared of passengers and searched. Many, many Jewish centers, day care and preschools evacuated. But, he has a brain tumor so he's not responsible.

 

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No, He is the scum of the earth. May he spend a lot of time in prison.

 

I did not write about "Palestine, Palestinians, refugees", why the alert ?

 

The alert is to the entire thread, not you personally.

 

Thanks.....

 

I don't know you in person, but I know Israel's agenda. So, you saying "if we're so deceitful..." doesn't make any sense to me because I don't think Israeli citizens like you are deceitful at all. I'm sure you're a good citizen and person too but that's nothing to do with my criticisms. The normalization was neither in our hands, nor in Israeli government's. That was a cold handshake, a "non-aggression" agreement if you will. I remember when I first told you about the 67 borders and as response to that your weak sarcastic remarks. It was a year or two ago and there was nothing quite like it being discussed in the international stage back then. Today there are some Jews loudly talking about in favor of 67 borders.
I guess even you start to realize that things can change; demographics, incomes, military power, stability, borders, you name it. But there's this one thing, that tens of millions of Turks who are willing to fight against any tiny bit of a shift in its foreign policy that's been well based on "sovereignty" and "unitary" of the state. That my friend won't change whatsoever, no matter how much pressure is put, or how strong of an isolation policy is conducted upon the Turkish government, or no matter how sneaky is a foreign government infiltration planned...

The reason for that is Turkey has dynamics which are so different in structure than those of the middle and near east countries (Greece, Bulgaria, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Lebanon, Jordan, Saudis, Israel, etc). The ability of establishing sovereign states is where this uniqueness is rooted at. There have been 16 Turkish sovereign empires/states established so far in history, many of which were the successors of previous ones. This helped building up a traditional "governance" that in time was embraced by the people and have become a "character" of a nation.

Believe me when I say this but I'm not making things as a matter of pride here, just trying to make a point for you to grasp better why things have to be working out differently with us. Go on a walk in any street of any Turkish city on a sunny Sunday. Pick people randomly regardless of their educational background and ask what they think of the government. Many would complain, some would back it up, but when you ask what they think of the "State" in particular, the answers you'd get would be more common. Many would say the state is to them a "FATHER" no matter how unhappy they are with the government. The main reason for that is the tradition I emphasized above. Considering Turks started as bunch of big "tribal families" (asiret, beylik) spread across Anatolia -and even before that in Central Asia prior to any establishment of a state or empire- the public under the rule of those big tribal families were automatically the offspring of the ruling family called Hanedan. Ulu Bey (supreme leader), was the leader of ruling family and the entire population of that Beylik. To the people back then, Ulu Bey who was representing the state in his persona was the father of all. Likewise we officially gave Mustafa Kemal the name Ataturk which literally means "father of Turks", as Ata means father/ancestor in Turkish.

So with this kind of a strong tie between the people and the state, Turks will be defending their state by seeing any attempts for distorting its unitary borders as a direct threat to the father. I've been studying for a while many kinds of outside attempts to turn this mass character around in the last 60 years and I have to say many were engineered perfectly: Scandals, assassinations, wrong imprisonments, terrorism, false flags, controversial privatizations, curfews, military coups, financial crisis, arrests, and many more. However, all that have ended up with a little touch of individualism which came along with open market economy implementations. This more than a thousand years long living state tradition that many are lacking of, is what gives the uniqueness to our dynamics. They are the shadow foreign and interior ministries when necessary. They are the arc of the covenant of this state.

That's why Israel's stance with the globalists is actually a natural cause of tension with Turkey. On the other hand, 67 borders could be the sign we've been seeking that Israel acting more like a "nation state" than an agent of the globalist US because then we would have a common ground, as our only intention is to maintain our unitary nation state structure. And I believe Israel don't have to be anti-imperialist during its transformation but can for sure be a nation state concerning more within than changing the neighborhood into a state graveyard.