Mohammad tortured/executed a man, and raped his widow the same day.

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  1. FreedomSeeker

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    When Muhammad sent his army to overrun the peaceful farming community of Khaybar, he was not satisfied with the plunder and felt that the town’s treasurer might be holding out on him. He had the man brought to him:
    When he [Muhammad] asked him about the rest he refused to produce it, so the apostle gave orders to al-Zubayr bin al-Awwam, “Torture him until you extract what he has.” So he kindled a fire with flint and steel on his chest until he was nearly dead. Then the apostle delivered him to Muhammad bin Maslama and he struck off his head.” (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 764)

    (As a happy side note to the story – the man’s brutal murder left a beautiful young widow named Saffiya, whom Muhammad was then able to “marry”. As his biographer tells it, on the day he had her husband killed, the prophet of Islam "passed the night with her in a tent of his." (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 517) From http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/muhammad/myths-mu-torture.htm

    IMAGINE GW Bush raping Saddam's wife the night after Saddam was killed....you CAN'T IMAGINE a person that morally bankrupt, can you!? Or, imagine GW Bush raping a 9 year old little girl......you can't, can you. Islam will end this century, I can feel it!

    Mohammad was clearly one of the most immoral people to have ever lived. HITLER....did he rape anyone's widow after torturing/executing them? ......so Mohammad was likely less moral than the one person that people currently think is the least moral person ever.

    Question: what atrocities WOULD Mohammad have had to have committed for his followers today to leave his cult? Anything?....I don't think so, as they are too brain-washed.
     
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    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    The Jews think David was the best thing ever and he did things very similar to Mohammed.
     
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    FreedomSeeker Well-Known Member

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    Yes.
    Please tell us how he's as bad a Mohammad. We know that Mohammad and Moses were bad, now let's hear about David.
     
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    I can - And I'm by the way also not able to understand the orgasm of death of the americian government when they sent soldiers to murder Mr. Osama Bin Laden.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbbtmskCRUY
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It may have had something to do with a few thousand innocents killed when the largest city in the United States was attacked with cowardly and brutal terrorism, resulting in massive destruction and societal impact.....but I'm just guessing here.

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    Hey leave prophet Hitler out of this, he was only fighting a defensive war to get his lands back for his people and to drive the jew from the peninsula, err i mean Germany. He actually gave Jews free passage before the war, peace be upon him.

    See, prophet and a defensive war, its in the scriptures.
     
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    Lets not nevermind the US helped Saddam Hussein when he was gassing his own people and Iranians. The US did simular things across the globe with other ruthless dictators. And even a terrorist like Bin Laden was ones an ally of the US world wide campaign of terror. A 9-11 is nothing much compared to that.
     
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    So we should have let OBL go?
     
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    The correct title of Hitler was "ignorant and perverse ässhole" also called "murderous idiot" or "damned bloody Nazi" or something like this. From time to time some people called him even "Hitler".

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17hEcSsv57g

    What a nonsense. Hitler was an atheist who needed the bloody shadow of war for some of his most cruel crimes. A very realistic scene about Hitlers irrealism and narcism is for example this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YTePIi4arg

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A85QeMDv9lE
     
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    in american the women will wet a presidents cigar, for free (monica lowinski).

    hitler nor muhammad dropped a nuke on hiroshima and nagasaki

    killing civilians, women, child, the cat the dog and then left how many thousands with their flesh burning


    ...so even the freedom seekers are often less moral than the one person that people currently think is the least moral person ever.
     
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    Which IRAQ...had nothing to do with.
     
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    The Bible calls "heroes" men who slaughtered Canaanite men, women, and children.

    Lot, supposedly a "righteous man of God", offered to let his daughters be raped.

    The Old Testament is awash in blood....other people's naturally. And the men who spilt it are called theh "holy men of the Old Testament".
     
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    Considering my reply was to this:
    How does you comment make any sense at all?
     
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    "Right or wrong - my nation" is no excuse - for nothing.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMxBpPcoWf0
     
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    What for heavens sake has anyone who lives today to do with your completly crazy ideas about history? If you don't know how to read the bible or how to see the diffculties of decisions in history then you are part of the problems of this world and not a part of the solutions. We don't know anything about the alternatives of Hieroshima and Nagasaki for example. The danger of a nucelar war today is not the USA - it is Iran and Northkorea.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fme36nswdJw
     
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    How would you then, react to someone busting down your front door, shooting your dog, smashing your belongings.....and expecting you to ignore it?

    If you had a gun in your hand?







    Oh....and this was some guy you noticed last week stealing your neighbors TV.
     
  17. FreedomSeeker

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    So you agree that Mohammad is as evil as GW Bush, correct? And that neither one should be a "prophet" of god, right?
     
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    Correct.

    Google the following, look at the source, and realize that it was MOHAMMAD who said the following: "I have been made victorious through terror".

    Bin Laden was just following in the footsteps of his boy Mo.
     
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    Hitler and Mohammad both had the same fate in mind for the Jews, clearly.
    Jesus is as bad however, as Jesus has a savage brutal eternal torture in store for the Jews.....ALL Jews, not the relatively measly 6 million that Hitler killed (he just shortened their lives by an average of around 45 years, he didn't see to it that they were tortured forever....no, only Jesus (well, and Mohammad/Allah) are THAT savage...even more savage than Hitler, it can be argued.
     
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    So we can all agree then that GW Bush, Mohammad, Saddam, Hitler, and Jesus are all sick SOB's.
    But, say, GANDHI is a pretty good guy (too bad Jesus and Allah are going to see Gandhi burn burn burn because he didn't pick the right superhero out of the 200,000 or so superheroes throughout history....Gandhi can pick the right superhero, among lottery-like odds, and Jesus/Allah want to punish him for that more than any human has ever, on this earth, punished any other human (as an example).....sick. Religions are SICK.
    Modern Secular Humanism is far far more moral than religions ever will be.
     
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    Well,.. we're letting GWB go, and he is responsible for a couple of 100.000's of deaths in Iraq alone who would have resonable lives if GWB didn't started his made up huff and puff nonsence of WMD's in Iraq. And it's not just GWB. There were plenty of others in America who are responsible for massive support of ruthless dictators to even helping them out with ousting elected presidents.

    How about you show a sence of justice. OBL only got just a couple of thousand killed. It seems the western world looks the other way when 100.000's of people get slaughtered by our hands when just a couple of ours get killed. And most of the time, with the US treating South America as their back yard, it's just about the money they help out with people getting slaughtered. It would have been something if OBL helped out some Mubarak like character in California to torture and terrorise the population into submission,.. but that is not what went down.
     
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    I don't agree with anything. The person Mohammed seems to be a summary of different persons. And Bush ... what to say about Bush? He did something in case of Iraq and he did nothing in case of Northkorea. I guess both was wrong. Is he still playing with the skull of Geronimo?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0t1YKpJKvE
     
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    Bishadi, yes, I agree America has made mistakes....just like Mohammad (BEAT your wives in Qur'an 4:34), and just like Jesus (accepted slavery in NT 1 Timothy 6:1-2, AND also Luke 12:47-48.....he accepted it in multiple places just to show that he really meant it, slavery was acceptable to Jesus, and he never renounced slavery, or killing of gays, etc.) Jesus was SICK, SICK, SICK, and clearly not the "son of god".

    Muslims consider Jesus a prophet, and they DON'T consider him the "son of god", so 1.5 billion followers of Jesus believe that he's not "the son of god".
     
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    That didn't answer the question. Should we have let him go? Yes or no. its a simple question.
     
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    Darth Gorn (actually I like you, so I'll call you JEDI Gorn) is on a roll today. Good work.
    Yes, the Bible is evil (seems to be written by that "satan" bloke as much as by that "god" wierdo). So evil in fact, that in the listing of violence and cruelty in the bible it takes *1313* entries to cover it all! Incredible! If my belief system had 1313 instances of violence and cruelty in it, IN ONE BOOK(!), I'd be smart enough to realize it was the most evil book ever written (on par with the Qur'an and Hindu and Nazi texts) and leave it ASAP.

    1313 instances of violence and cruelty in one (yes ONE) book.....the book about the (snicker, snicker) "Prince of (gag) Peace" no less:
    http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/long.html

    When people are done reading that list....it will take them hours...please leave that cult for modern Secular Humanism, and that'll do the world a huge favor.
     

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