Mohammad tortured/executed a man, and raped his widow the same day.

America is too cowardly to take on AQ by IDEOLOGICAL methods, because that would mean condemning crazy stuff like a flying horse (that's in Islam)....but because their own CHRISTIANITY has talking donkeys, unicorns (TEN times in it!), dragons, talking snakes, etc., etc., they WON'T take on Islam ideologically.

Intellectual cowards.

Only modern Secular Humanism can win the ideological war against Islam.

 

Bin Laden WOULD have wanted to kill MILLIONS of Infidels, if he had the ABILITY to do that, but he simply didn't have that ability. The Qur'an justifies it, as reading it for yourself it says that the Infidel lands are there for the Muslim taking. Sick.

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Then Mohammad was clearly not who the Qur'an claims (it claims he's one person, or at least never says he's more than just one guy), and therefore you believe that Islam is just a made up religion, correct?

 

See,


http://www.evilbible.com/Murder.htm

 

I would be very astonsihed if someone would steal my neighbors TV. I guess I would not be able to understand why someone is doing so. And if I saw a gun in my hands I would know that this dream is a mad dream. And in case someone would shoot my dogs down I don't know what I would do - I'm not sure wether someone who is doing so would survive this. But as far as I know such a thing did not happen in the last hundred years in the area where I'm living.

Nevertheless you are confusing the right of [extended] self-defense with the not existing right to murder a murderer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WBmqz_qh_o

 

MrTruth, are we talking about the SAME bible that so many PFers say is the most moral book of all time!? Can't be! No, the book that that link refers to MUST, MUST be different than the "Bible" that people favorably quote on PF, right? Because the book in that link is FINE AND DANDY with MURDER. I'm so confused!
Or are they one and the same books, and that would clearly mean that the followers of that book are, like Saint Dawkins (pbuh) claims, DELUDED?

Now that I think about it more, yep, I'm pretty sure that they are deluded.

 

The fact that there's even a web site called "Evil Bible" says A LOT about the Bible.

 

Yes they are.

Right wing professing Christians on this forum repeatedly state their hostility and bigotry towards Muslims while ignoring the murderous and genocidal campaigns of their heroes who are Christian, Zionist, and Hindu.

For example, people like me have quoted on this forum several times verses from Hindu "scripture" which teach that it is perfectly normal to kill infant girls and that this accounts for the genocide of MILLIONS of females in India. Yet, the right wing bigoted Christians fail to criticize this genocide (and I can give you many other examples). Why? Because they are bigoted haters and hypocrites of the worse kind.

 

I don't believe anything in case of Islam. I am not a Muslim. Nevertheless I have the impression that different stories I heard about Mohammed don't show the same person.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE8kwCCKU2k

 

I don't live in any war with anyone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvjiVam2HO4

 

And what says the web site "Evil FreedomSeeker" about you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm6qeyB1scI

 

I will agree with the log term stupidity, brutality, and shortsighted warfare the United States took part in....Please remember however the differences between War and Terrorism.

War is Hell......Terrorism is Demonic.
War pits soldier against soldier, and civilians are not the intended target.
Terrorism pits Ideology against strangers and innocents.

Neither deserve respect, but one deserves pure spite.

 

The correct answer to terrorism is criminal persecution, not war.
As for the difference between war and terrorism: It's just hypocritical to bomb cities saying that "civilians aren't the intended victims" when you know full well that they will die all the same. And let's not forget that one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

As a pacifist I do agree though that neither deserves respect.

Concerning the OP: I have about as much respect for such bile as I have for the bile of Julius Streicher, i.e. none at all.

 

The Jews who moved on the oasis of Kaybar were from Jericho.. and they were squatters.

 

This event comes from a Hadith, not the Quran. There is zero evidence this ever actually happened and Hadiths are totally optional texts for Muslims.

 

You might want to read the Bible and read the history of the crusaders before throwing rocks at the actions of others, glass houses and all.

 

Excellent post. I'm starting a MrTruth fan club.
Most people won't believe you (as I'm sure you know) unless you post a LINK to those Hindu atrocities. Would you do that?

 

Robert Spencer of JihadWatch (uh, he's not unbiased, but) has a book titled Did Mohammad Exist?....the book does make you wonder, when you read it. So you are probably right that Mohammad was likely not one person...therefore the Quran is just a fairy tale.

 

In Mohammad's early years he was indeed a pretty decent guy, but as he gained more power, he became a MONSTER later in life. Those later verses ABROGATE the early verses. "No compulsion in religion" was replaced by "kill those who leave their Islamic religion".
His last words were: kill the Christians and Jews.
A real weirdo.

 

You are also apparently an INTELLECTUAL pacifist (i.e. moral coward), if, repeat if, you can't condemn murder/torture and rape...I don't know, but CAN you here and now condemn Mohammad unconditionally for murder/torture and rape? Or are you an intellectual coward of the worst type? (I'm just askin', I don't know for sure....I believe in you, but I'm unsure what you believe after your comment about the OP.)

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SLAUGHTER SQUATTERS, MARGOT SAYS!
Margot, please google/study the following, and then come back and tell us that Mohammad was an absolute MONSTER: Mohammad beheaded 600 Qurayza

 

So is Mein Kampf optional text for Nazis.

 

Great point. Yes, the Bible, which for one has more contradictions that the Qur'an, is actually worse than the Qur'an.
I myself am a modern Secular Humanist (Dawkins (saw), Krauss, Harris (pbuh), etc.) so I can throw all the rocks I want because MSH is far far superior to any of the Abrahamic faiths (Abraham was a slaver holder, for one thing.) Morally better, more consistent, more scientifically-correct, fairer to gays, fairer to women, fairer to all "non-believers", far more democratic than the superstitious texts, etc. Simply a better belief system, period!

 

Can you name 2 other horrific atrocities in the Bible? When you do, realize that the Christians on this forum endorse those attrocities so much that it never occurs to them to create alternative versions of the Bible to give their kids, instead of more horrific version. Sad, really.
Could you imagine a modern Secular Humanist saying "well, Dawkins latest book does say in multiple places to slaughter gays BUT I guess there's not a darn thing we can do about that so we'll just have to give that to our impressionable youth anyway, oh well."
Of course not, because modern Secular Humanists are far far FAR more moral than Christians/Muslims/Jews/Hindus.

 

Yes I can, and just so ya know I am a follower of Jesus, and I do not condon the actions of some of my fellow believers, believe it not the vast majority of Christians are good people, just as the followers of other religions are. None of them has a monopoly on atrocities.

 

Sorry, but I don't believe you one bit...unless of course you can here and now condemn "god" for killing every living thing on the planet (supposedly), because HE messed up. Do you condemn him for that? If YOU had those abilities, Casper, you would have easily come up with a far more moral way of rectifying the situation, I'm sure....because you are more moral than the "god" of the Bible, I believe.

 

Here is your problem, I Do Not Care What You Believe, see how simple that is.