MOON LANDINGS 'FAKE': Shock video shows 'Stanley Kubrick' admit historic event was 'H

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  1. Destroyer of illusions

    Destroyer of illusions Well-Known Member

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    You do not mistake? That is not my statement. It said Stanley Kubrick. But perhaps you are more informed than he.
     
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    Oxymoron Well-Known Member

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    Stanley Kubrick is not president of the US,or former head of CIA . thus his fanciful imagination is no substitute for logic, and facts.
     
  3. Destroyer of illusions

    Destroyer of illusions Well-Known Member

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    It how look. The US president and the director of the CIA lied to a lot more. Logic is also not their priority.
     
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    Oxymoron Well-Known Member

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    Are you serious? you believe this garbage? Oy vey
     
  5. Mandelus

    Mandelus Well-Known Member

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    Didn't know that Brother Grimm are still alive and write further fairy tales ... :roflol:

    Honestly and in all honor ... Only one of these conspiracy nonsense which has to be packed straight into the junk box and not more or less as that. Any single brain cell to invest in it is wasted. :roll:
     
  6. Scott

    Scott Well-Known Member

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    It's really a moot point as the anomalies have already proven that everything was done in a studio.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/moon-landing/347662-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-studio.html

    Hey viewers: Make sure you read this info.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=362999&page=2&p=1064028979#post1064028979
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=403884&page=2&p=1064900819#post1064900819
     
  7. Betamax101

    Betamax101 Well-Known Member

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    Your avoidance is noted yet again. Every single time you get asked to quantify your pathetic opinion into a direct response, you come out with the "moot point" BS. It isn't a moot point, it's another example of your ignorance.

    There are no anomalies, all your rubbish has been addressed hundreds of times. Your stock spammed response to each argument is indicative of your inability to think for yourself. List 5 anomalies that we can isolate, ones you claim have not been answered. The viewers will see you avoid this request with the spammed response quoting your wall of spam.
     
  8. Scott

    Scott Well-Known Member

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    You answered this one but you didn't disprove it. You only had the attitude that you'd disproved it. The waving flag proves the hoax all by itself.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/moon-landing/362999-air-caused-flag-move-so-obviously-studio.html
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dW9qcL4LiUg


    This is such a clear anomaly that Jay Windley* refused to address it.
    http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=216531&page=204


    He knew he'd just end up looking silly if he tried to obfuscate it.


    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=362999&page=2&p=1064028979#post1064028979
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=403884&page=2&p=1064900819#post1064900819


    *
    http://www.clavius.org/about.html
     
  9. Betamax101

    Betamax101 Well-Known Member

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    As I said more cowardly avoidance. The Apollo 15 flag cannot possibly be caused by air. Air currents are moved by objects a matter of inches and you know this.

    Film your "trotting by the flag" video and upload it to the internet, any number of hosting sites will show it for you. You won't because you are lying.

    List 5 anamoliesd and answer the latest "moot point". You won't because you cannot think for yourself.
     
  10. snakestretcher

    snakestretcher Banned

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    No. You have convinced yourself of this alleged 'proof' and the fact that you appear unable to answer direct questions without referring to your 'proof' is salient. 'Look at this video, it's proof', is not proof, it's what you think it is. And you, consistently, are utterly wrong. The 'proof' of that is in your posts.
     
  11. Scott

    Scott Well-Known Member

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    I'd need help to make the video and it really isn't worth the trouble because anyone who actually doubts that the flag was moved by air...

    Apollo 15 flag waving
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymwE1sNm82Y
    (2:35 time mark)

    ...can hang a light piece of cloth from a ceiling light and trot by it at about a forty five degree angle. He or she will then see that the wind caused by his or her passing makes the flag move in the same way that the Apollo flag moves.


    You can pretend all you want. This anomaly is simply too clear to obfuscate.

    Jay Windley refused to try to obfuscate this one because he knew none of the viewers and lurkers would be taken in. Trying to obfuscate this anomaly only ruins one's reputation as a pundit.
    http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8177569&postcount=8141


    Both of you are all washed up.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=362999&page=2&p=1064028979#post1064028979
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=403884&page=2&p=1064900819#post1064900819
     
  12. Betamax101

    Betamax101 Well-Known Member

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    Seriously? My grandkids can do this. All you need is a mobile phone a piece of blue-tack, a cloth and a brain. The real reason you won't do it, is because you are lying and everyone who reads this (apart from a couple of other clueless individuals) knows it.

    Air doesn't move an object that far away, a simple wind tunnel picture will demonstrate this. You, however, have nothing to quantify your ignorant claim and you steadfastly ignore the reference shown in these wind tunnels. You are washed up, you have no credibility and all you have is spammed repetition.
     
  13. Scott

    Scott Well-Known Member

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    (from post #109)
    Tell me this. Do you think the size of the object is also a factor? Do you think that a wide object will make the flag move at the same distance that a thin object will?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn6MTrin5eU
    (2:35 time mark)



    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=362999&page=2&p=1064028979#post1064028979
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=403884&page=2&p=1064900819#post1064900819
     
  14. Betamax101

    Betamax101 Well-Known Member

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    Tell you this? From close to 7 years of spamming this, surely you have some evidence for it?

    An object of larger size will naturally push a wider and larger volume of air or liquid slightly further, though each time the medium will seek to achieve the least path of resistance. One of the contributors to flight employs that very fact by causing a variance in pressure across the wings. The main reason airplane designers make very fast planes with narrow angled nose cones.

    Automobile inches:-
    http://www.time-to-innovate.com/sit...trix/VW-New-Polo-Wind-Tunnel-Testing-1-lg.jpg

    Tennis ball millimetres:-
    http://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/thumbnails/image/edu_wind_tunnels_tennis_ball.j pg

    Apollo 15 flag:-
    Not 1 foot/4 feet/6 feet or anything that corresponds to what we see.

    A truther would recognize this, which leads any casual observer to deduce you aren't one.

    Now quit being a coward and upload your "anybody can trot by a flag" video!

    If I can do it, anyone can:-

    [video=youtube;uJyv4TYpTKo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJyv4TYpTKo[/video]

    In that video I failed to also point out that there is a floor beneath the object, so further limiting the air movement. That is why it moves it nearly 4-5 inches away. Does it strike anybody odd that the spammer ignores this video? Not me. Every time he gets shown direct evidence contradicting his foolishness he runs away.
     
  15. Scott

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    The book and the bag are not the same conditions. The book is approaching the bag faster than the astronaut is approaching the flag and there's a solid floor under the bag. To test something the same situation has to be duplicated.

    If it's so easy for you to make a video, why don't you make one that duplicates the conditions exactly?


    These two videos show that the flag started moving before he got close enough to touch it.

    Initial Apollo 15 Flag Movement
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dW9qcL4LiUg

    The flag that moved
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFMpmjEv9o0


    It continues moving after he is past it so it's not camera bloom.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn6MTrin5eU
    (2:35 time mark)


    Anyone can do this at home and see for himself if he wants. Your book and bag video don't make this go away.


    Your doctoring a video isn't going to convince anyone because no other video except your doctored one has the movement you attribute to camera bloom.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=362999&page=12&p=1065076608#post1065076608


    If I remember correctly, you deleted a lot of my posts from the comment sections of that YouTube series you made.


    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=362999&page=2&p=1064028979#post1064028979
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=403884&page=2&p=1064900819#post1064900819
     
  16. Betamax101

    Betamax101 Well-Known Member

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    You can squirm all you like, whilst making erroneous uninformed claims, but the simple fact of the matter is that the video demonstrates perfectly how near an object must be to affect it with the air wake it generates. The book is travelling at close to the same speed as the astronaut since it was only dropped from 2 feet away!

    You are the liar who makes the claim. Simply affix a piece of bluetak to a flat surface, put your phone on it and hit record. You will never do this, because everybody knows you are lying.

    And the spam videos once more with the spam claims that have never been disputed. The one that is under dispute is the one that you are simply incapable of acknowledging. Air cannot possibly have caused the flag to move at such a distance away.

    No they can't. You can't.

    You are a pathetic person. The video shows how air behaves and dismisses your bogus claim completely.

    The video isn't doctored. The camera bloom is more likely than the impossible and bullcrap "wall-of-air".

    I deleted posts about Chinese spacewalks and other spam.

    Upload your video please.
     
  17. Scott

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    Sorry but the video shows it.

    Initial Apollo 15 Flag Movement
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dW9qcL4LiUg


    What's your view on why Jay Windley refused to even address this issue?

    (I'm FatFreddy here)
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=436449&page=9&p=1065656655#post1065656655


    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=362999&page=2&p=1064028979#post1064028979
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=403884&page=2&p=1064900819#post1064900819
     
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    The video shows no such thing.

    That is why no one addresses it.

    It is consistently you who refuses to address any fact or answer any question
     
  19. Betamax101

    Betamax101 Well-Known Member

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    No it does not. It shows a tiny movement when the astronaut enters the frame. One youtube user puts the movement at 3-4 feet, Jarrah White at 6 feet. Both are impossible for air being the cause.

    It has nothing whatsoever to do with this thread. I have answered this already, your ridiculous spam is worse than your hopeless memory.
     
  20. Scott

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    I dealt with this on the other thread.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=362999&page=2&p=1064030792#post1064030792


    You won't address his refusal to address the waving flag issue for the same reason he refuses to address the waving flag issue; there are some things that are simply too clear to obfuscate and you pro-Apollo posters would rather steer clear of those issues than address them.


    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=362999&page=2&p=1064028979#post1064028979
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=403884&page=2&p=1064900819#post1064900819
     
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    You addressed nothing. You are the ultimate comedy troll. You keep referencing previous instances which referenced previous instances which avoided the issue completely.

    Right here, in your next post, without a single link, explain how air can be pushed that far ahead by a human being.

    Bull! He won't talk to an idiot who consistently defames him with no evidence. You avoid his entire rebuttal because you have no answer to it.

    Are you insane? I must have personally addressed your obsessive spam on this, maybe a couple of dozen times. You however, never address major problems in your claims.

    Here is an example. On the apollohoax forum, member Headlikearock showed the lens flares moving in the video, you have not addressed this at all. In your next post, without links, explain it.

    I have asked the impossible of you. You are incapable of any of the above without your customary avoidance and spam.
     
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    Cubed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    [video=youtube;sGXTF6bs1IU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGXTF6bs1IU[/video]
     
  23. Scott

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    Nobody who takes the time to read it will agree with you.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=362999&page=2&p=1064030792#post1064030792

    The movement when the astronaut is closest to the flag is the one that really proves they were in atmosphere. You're trying to mislead those viewers who don't take the time to click on the link and read the info.

    Those two dots on the flag don't prove anything because the flag kept swaying back and forth after the astronaut trotted by it. If it were some kind of illusion instead of movement, the flag wouldn't keep swaying that way. Your saying that the first movement of the flag is some kind of illusion and that the swaying was caused by his arm hitting it is obviously wrong as the movement obviously started before he got close enough to touch it. The movement shown here is obviously real movement when he is too far away to touch it...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFMpmjEv9o0

    ...as it is in this one.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dW9qcL4LiUg


    There's also this...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7yc2rVOs00
    (00:50 and 1:50 time marks)

    ...and this...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgUncG26MMA
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EscIMIkiER8

    ...and this.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzk6H4voUGo


    This video doesn't address the clearest proof such as the above issue.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGXTF6bs1IU


    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=362999&page=2&p=1064028979#post1064028979
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=403884&page=2&p=1064900819#post1064900819
     
  24. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    its really absurd and a bit comical to suggest that all of the Moon landings were faked.

    do you also think the Earth is Flat and Evolution is a hoax?
     
  25. Betamax101

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    I don't know who you are, or what motivates you to spend years of your life repeating the same spam, but the only people who think you are correct are other idiot hoax believers.

    You are a liar. I am not misleading anybody. I stated quite categorically that air movement does not behave the way you claim. I cited wind tunnel evidence, you cite spam and hot air. The movement occurs at least a metre away and that is impossible due to an air wake. You have nothing.

    Those "two dots" are lens flares. Lens flares do not move that way because they are static from internal reflection. The fact they did move that way supports a camera anomaly.
    Your inability to understand what mutually exclusive means or the word co-incidence is not anybody's problem but your own. I wonder whether it is deliberate or you really aren't too smart.

    Event 1, the small movement of indeterminable cause - kicked regolith, vibration, camera anomaly, static discharge. The one thing we can discount, since the law of physics prohibit it, is that air was the cause!

    Event 2, the swaying after he passes, definitely caused by contact with his arm.

    As I predicted you are incapable of proper debate, you just cut and paste your spam links, over and over ad nauseum.
     

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