MOON LANDINGS 'FAKE': Shock video shows 'Stanley Kubrick' admit historic event was 'H

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  1. stanfan

    stanfan New Member Past Donor

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    Watched it on television; read about it in the newspapers - in those days the media, television and print, still had credibility with the American public; observed the recovered moon rocks at the Air & Space Museum in Washington, D.C., where they also have all the capsules except Apollo 13, and Gus Grissom's, which sank in the ocean. Also watched the famous hoax television series they did about our space race to the moon - with its lead speaker, a PR man in a white lab coat, who didn't even have a college degree, and who had months before been the lead speaker in an exact repudiation of conspiracy "experts" who stated we hadn't gone to the moon.

    That tv series was heavily aired with portions of the movie Capricorn One to "prove" the moon landing's were a hoax. Capricorn One filmed in 1978, while we went to the moon in 1979 ??? Which one has more credibility? I also live in South Florida, and later observed two Shuttle launches, one in daylight, one just before dawn in darkness - awe inspiring. There also is a U-Tube video somewhere, of a commercial aircraft which took off from Jacksonville, Florida, and the passengers are able to observe the Shuttle launched, and climbing up and beyond them in their passenger cabin, the flight attendant says something about "quit griping about airlines being late, look what you just got a chance to see, that few ever see."

    If it was Hollywood movie stuff, do you really think everybody involved in the massive undertaking could possible have kept their mouth shut from 1947 when Yeager broke the sound barrier, onward until the Shuttle flights were ended? Respected astronauts and scientists knew exactly what happened to Challenger, launched in too cold an atmosphere that day, and the fact the capsule containing the astronauts blew away from the solid fuel booster rockets to the right, and was "flown" as best it could be, to the ocean in a desperate attempt to save it, with everybody dying on impact. There is no "proof" available that the astronauts acting in a movie for all of those missions - some technician, janitor, best boy, sound man, caterer would have talked a long, long time before this, particularly after we abandoned manned flight and went to probes of the universe.

    In an adventure which ended the USSR's space program as we surpassed it and that rivaled and surpassed Columbus' voyage to the New World; the building of the Great Pyramids of Egypt; the Great Wall of China; Lindy's solo flight across the Atlantic to Paris; the Manhattan Project which developed the atomic bomb; if it was a hoax, somebody would have said something. The original Soviet lead in technology with Spudik; their space dogs (which K gave two to Mrs. Kennedy after she commented about them to him at the Vienna conference); and Gagarin's flight which America tracked ( he is a world hero, not well honored in the West, and deserves to be ); Sheppard's short flight as America's first man in space, and we could have put him up before Gagarin, but chose to send a chimp up first - and he came back p/oed biting everyone ( don't blame him); galvanized America's government to action by Eisenhower in starting the Space Race and Kennedy's clarion call to put a man on the moon within 10-years, which succeeded.

    Even the Manhattan Project had leaks, both in the military, and from the Rosenberg's - who both were executed for espionage. Truman at Potsdam told Stalin about the atomic bomb - by then, Stalin already had the plans and Soviet scientists working on the project, and the bomb by 1949, leveling the hegemony between two super powers, America and the USSR. If the moon landings were a hoax, so are the international Space Station still orbiting above us; the Shuttle launches and program; the crash of Sky Lab in Australia, etc.

    And I so loved the elderly Australian lady who says while watching the walk on the moon, that she observed a coca cola bottle being kicked out of the way by the astronauts - and thus knew the footage was fake. Well, if it was fake - it is the biggest hoax ever invented in history, when actually it is the most important event ever in the history of science, discovery and adventure. Nobody has been able to overturn the evidence yet, and a dying movie maker stating he was the originator of the hoax, and filmed it after being recruited by the government 10-years earlier (would have to have been about 1961), is not even plausible enough to put into print.

    Who succeeded him after 1969? Ever seen an actual Hollywood movie being produced? Takes hundred's, sometimes thousands of people, all choreographed to a single idea. A moon landing hoax, which continued on for numerous missions to the orbiting moon which had mesmerized poets, songwriters, scientists throughout known human history, would have had to involve hundred's of thousands of people in perpetuating that hoax - Washington doesn't keep secrets like that.........the world can't keep secret's like that...........
     
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    They used all the power in the cells for acceleration to leave the surface, and another thing, because of the moon's 1/6th gravity, there isn't any dust or powder to fly up when the thing took off or landed - because of the low gravity on the moon, the moon dust was pushed sideways, not upwards like would have occurred on earth if an object landed on it in dust. Since it was the most important feature of the moon landing (after the landing itself), getting off of the moon, it was critical and everyone watching was concerned that it worked, and worried, even regular citizens. It worked............
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    This is an absurd strawman. NASA and the ESA are chock-full to the brim of brilliant scientists in various fields who could get another well-paid post in a nanosecond. More than 18,000 people work for NASA alone and you're seriously suggesting that they're ALL in on this 'conspiracy' of silence? Really?
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Would you, or wouldn't you?
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    Stupid question.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Look snakey, before I accepted a down-sizing offer which was far too good to refuse, I worked for an international company. Do you think I used to know what went on in the boardroom? Well I didn't know and I didn't care, so long as my pay cheque went into the bank every month.

    And I don't ask stupid questions! [​IMG]
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    The hundreds of technicians and others who would need to have been involved in this alleged conspiracy-including the guy who drove the truck full of 'Moon dust' to NASA were board members?
     
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    You people are ignoring the info I posted in post #51. I guess I'll have to post if for you.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/moon-landing/347662-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-studio.html


    http://theconspiracyzone.podcastpeople.com/posts/comment/28159
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    A: Pan’s claim there were half a million people involved in the Apollo program, but that includes all the humble engineers working on machine parts in many companies around the globe. So if someone is making a part in some engineering factory in Seattle, and his boss tells him it’s for the Apollo spacecraft, is that engineer proof the landings took place? No of course it is not proof, and even if that engineer knew they never made it to the Moon, he would still brag to his friends that he made a part that went to the Moon just to make him feel proud in some way or other. Parts for the Apollo program were made at many different factories around the globe. For example the laser reflector supposedly left on the Moon was manufactured in France. NASA collected the unit from the French company, and that was the last they saw of it. It’s probably stashed away in some archive at Langley, but one things for certain it’s not on the Moon. Are those French engineers proof they landed on the Moon? No of course not, as very few, (probably less than 200 people), were actually involved in bringing the whole lot together, so as to minimize what was actually taking place. No need for any of them to speak out because (A) They are 100% patriotic to the USA, and would say nothing that would go against America, even if it were true. (B) They do not need millions of dollars to safeguard their future, as they have already received substantial amounts from NASA just to “keep mum”.
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    Oxymoron Well-Known Member

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    If the landings were fake, the Russkies would have known about it, they also landed on the moon and had sat elites orbiting and could easily check the US landing site. Yet the Russians never said it was fake, even though if it were true that would have been a huge propaganda victory. So stop promoting this idiotic ideas.
     
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    Well I enjoyed a noise and clutter free few weeks, were you on holiday?

    Here is a summary that details exactly why your nonsensical ramblings are meaningless:-

    http://www.clavius.org/scale.html

    And for good measure I made a video highlighting just how many would be needed. I may have to borrow one of the posts from your basketball forum that sums this up perfectly:-

    [video=youtube;HyVJt857e7Q]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyVJt857e7Q[/video]
     
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    Scott Well-Known Member

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    The Clavius site is a known disinfo site. Viewers: check this info out.
    http://forum.davidicke.com/showpost.php?p=1059062077&postcount=5
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=403884&p=1064898563#post1064898563
    http://forum.davidicke.com/showpost.php?p=1059062166&postcount=8

    Jay Windley* knows the moon missions were faked. He refuses to comment on anomalies that are so clear that they can't be successfully obfuscated which shows he knows the moon missions were faked as well as the hoax-believers do.
    http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=216531&page=204
    http://cosmoquest.org/forum/showthread.php?87594-Chinese-space-walk-conspiracy/page2&


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    http://www.clavius.org/about.html
     
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    During the Apollo 11 moon landing mission, the USSR actually hit the moon with an unmanned rocket. It wasn't near where our astronauts landed, but they did it. Very little is ever said about that in the history books.............
     
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    The viewers can see how you completely avoided what he said by using an ad-hominem. You have no answer to it so this is your only recourse. The page basically isolates 3 scenarios whereby the entire record could have been faked, you are simply too scared to read it or respond properly. I pity your level of delusion.

    You know the missions were carried out as the record depicts. Your clumsy and infantile attempt to attribute a false belief to Mr Windley is noted. Regardless of what experience you have had with a person(and in this case you didn't come off too well!), it is certainly not grounds to dismiss everything that person has to say on any matter.

    A truth seeker would address the points and identify why they hold no substance, something that you are too ignorant to contemplate, against a well educated and very informed man like Windley. Now answer which one of the scales you think holds water:-


    http://www.clavius.org/scale.html

    Or are you really that much of a coward? The viewers await your assessment with baited breath:bored:
     
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    Betamax101 Well-Known Member

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    My video was based on this extremely thorough post, kudos to the guy who put it together:-

     
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    :roll: Were they? So how do you know that; where did you read it, in NASA'S Bumper Book of Facts and Big Numbers? (they do seem to be obsessed with big numbers, and the bigger the better; have you noticed that?) And how do you know it was er, Moon Dust (Jesus am I really asking that question!) Oh, and you still haven't answered my 'stupid question'? [​IMG]
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Keep going Scott, we'll get there in the end! [​IMG]
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What's Colin holding up there - 'moon dust'? [​IMG]
     
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    LOL - nailed it, don't forget the elderly lady, who looked about the age of my grandmother in the 1960's, living out in the remote Western Australia desert area, who amazingly, can see, and read, a Coca-Cola bottle being kicked by Neil Armstrong out of the way, as he steps off of the LEM and begins to walk on the moon. Now - that one - would take X-Ray, Superman vision to spot, and if the thousands of things that were faked to make people believe the moon landings were fake, how in the hell would a Coke bottle be left on the set of this 5-plus year's running movie set? Hollywood is fantasy, and a dying Stanley Kubrick just happens to say he filmed all of this at the request of the U.S. government? Perhaps Mr. Kubrick was a bit senile on his deathbed also - that happens a lot with human beings...........
     
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    Do you understand what Radio Signal Triangulation is and how it is impossible to fake due to time delays?

    AboveAlpha
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    And naturally you have evidence that all those people were paid-off, don't you? The rest of your post is pure supposition.
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    The question mark at the end of my post (#83), should suggest to you that it is a question. I do not respond to strawmen 'what if?' questions.
     
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    The author of that post forgot to add that the Apollo rockets were holograms, they never took off in front of thousands of eye-witnesses and the 'astronauts' were actually actors (assassinated soon after), who went in one side of the hologram and out the back. There is no launch pad at Cape Canaveral-it's a cardboard and polystyrene fake. Oh, and the 'moon' is really made of green cheese-which is the reality behind NASA-a plot to monopolise the global cheese industry...
     
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    As far as the supposedly shock video of "Kubrick" is concerned. This is a hoaxed video, the actor is called Tom and there was a video pre-released (in error?) that shows the actor being walked through his lines.

    Stanley Kubrick could not possibly have performed the filming on the 6 Apollo missions, he never set foot on the Moon.
     

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