More abortions = less welfare. Pick one, right wingers !

Fine. If you're so convinced I'm evil no matter what I say, I guess there's no point in trying to have civil conversation with you.

 

89% of abortions are in the first trimester. http://www.abort73.com/abortion_facts/us_abortion_statistics/

 

Fine, for as long as you allude to it being a done deal I will point out that the very law you consistently quote doesn't actually say what you think it does.

 

Funny how Libs are trying so hard to convince us that America is not overpopulated and that immigration is good for the economy... and then when it comes to abortion, they turn around and say that overpopulation is a major problem and we need abortion.

Just an observation.

 

Our Courts have decided they are human beings and as such - entitled to the protections of our laws.

 

1. I never said it was a done deal for anyone but myself.

2. I can tell, you would never admit that the language of the UVVA is problematic for proponents of abortions anyway.

 

Human does not equal Person, you know it and I know it. Wrong they only use the law selectively and rarely, try charging a woman that has an abortion with murder and see what the courst say then, we know the answer don't we. Yes I am an expert on brainless activity, I see it displayed here by some on a daily basis.

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Human does not equal Person, you know it and I know it. Wrong they only use the law selectively and rarely, try charging a woman that has an abortion with murder and see what the courst say then, we know the answer don't we. Yes I am an expert on brainless activity, I see it displayed here by some on a daily basis.

 

Funny how the Cons say every baby has the right to life then do everything in their power to stop helping the poor children among us.

Just an observation

 

Taking your argument to it's logical conclusion. If indeed abortion means less unwanted children born into poverty...

We might as well kill the elderly, the unemployed, the mentally ill, the infirmed...afterall, they are not producers they only drain the system by taking from the producers.

This is essentially your argument..and I sure hope you're gainfully employed...never get old or sick...or lose your job...because after they are done murdering the unborn to save money....


They are coming for you.

Don't ever get old...because not only do the elderly not produce...the are useless, they offer no benefit to society, they just take up space and over-populate....

We should kill them to make room for younger people, who are more valuable. The elderly don't deserve to live.

This is essentially your argument, taken to it's logical conclusion.

Kill anything and everything that does not benefit the whole of a society....the utilitarian approach to the pesky problem of over-population...if it's unwanted, if it's a drain on taxpayers....if it adds to the problem of over-population

Kill it.

Eventually you will fall into one of the categories that is deemed...life unworthy of life.
Eventually you will lose your job...get an illness that requries long term care...get old and be unable to work...
Eventually they will be coming for you....


They will come for you...and someone on a message board somewhere will be glad they are coming for you....afterall...less sick people...less unemployed people...less old people.... less Welfare...

Perhaps they will start a thread....More dead elderly = less welfare...More dead unemployed = less welfare....More dead mentally ill = less welfare...More dead infirmed = less welfare...

Many of your illk will support that thread and give it reputations...until the day arrives, they are no longer young, no longer able to produce, they become a drain on society...and they will be coming for them too.

This is your argument taken to it's logical conclusion.

and you would have brought this upon yourself, because you didn't speak up, when they were coming for someone else to kill...as long as it wasn't you, you were fine with it...their problem, not yours...

Right? Their problem not yours...until you get that knock on the door...and you are judged as a life unworthy of life and it is your day to die to benefit the whole of society....your day will come indeed...if you fail to speak up now and defend life even when it is not yours you're defending.

 

You seem confused, normal state of affairs, let me help. Clue: the Libs care about people once they are born, it is the Cons that think all fetuses have a right to life but anyone not far right of center once born is usless and a burden on society, you know YOUR guys.

 

Wow.... a double post - within a post.

You are serious!

Obviously, a woman can't be chrged with murder (under the UVVA) for an abortion that is allowed by the law itself.

However.

Some women have been, already - and in the future will be again - charged with murder for abortions that are deemed to be "illegal" abortions.

Your argument will now be that just because they can be charged with the crime - that doesn't mean we can get a conviction.

That would be a point that I agree with...

But it would completely ignore the fact - that the language of the law would allow for both the charging and the prosecution of a woman who obtains an illegal abortion.

 

Yes, we get it, you want ALL abortions to be illegal and want any woman that gets one, even out of this Nation charged with murder, it has been the goal of the right to lifers since day one, guess what, not gonna happen. ENJOY

 

Liberals care?
When it isn't their money, then they care.

Republicnas consistently give more of their pockets to charities than Democrats...

Anyone can say...Hey tax that rich guy over there...make him pay for the poor people's lunch...it's quite another to actually buy the poor people's lunch..and progressives are certainly not footing the bill.

Millions who voted for our current Food Stamp-in-Chief....have never paid a dime in Federal taxes...because they are on the dole themselves....so of course it's very easy to be "liberal" with someone elses money.

 

Once more your confusion is showing, there are also Millions of cons that are not paying taxes either and there are many more Millions of Libs and Moderates that do pay in plenty with their own money and they back social programs.
Are you against social programs or do you believe they should be reformed and retained. Oh don't go down the private charities should do it all, it has already been proven to not be enough, I guess not enough cons gave freely.

 

I'm against people selling their EBT cards for cash and then buying drugs and alcohol....yes.

Welfare fraud is rampant...

 

True, but it is what you allude to, not by what you say but by what you don't say.

Why would I admit to something that isn't correct, as far more qualified people than you or I have already stated that the UVVA and Roe do not conflict and can stand without a problem .. I'd rather take the opinion of a qualified lawyer or law professor than a layman.

 

Charities have not taken care of the living children in the U S. The government has had to step in.

Oops, you slipped up again.

 

I am against it also, killing the program is not the answer, if you know someone has do so they should be kicked off and punished, turn them in.
Have not seen any proof that it is rampant, no matter how many times some claim it is. The places that have tried drug testing have shown otherwise.

 

Do you mean whining is not enough?

 

Thanks?

 

Afraid not, it takes real work to reform a system that is not working as it should, but whining is far easier.

 

Meh.

And you guys accuse me of making an appeal to authority.

Come on Supreme Courts Challenges.

I'm so anxious to get them underway.

 

You must enjoy losing, whatever floats your boat.

 

It aint about me.

 

Really? Then why did you talk about You?