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Most Democrats think "Medicare For All" means they can still keep their plans

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  1. jdog

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    It always amazes me when people do not understand their own government....
     
    jdog, Jun 22, 2019
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  2. MolonLabe2009

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    MolonLabe2009, Jun 22, 2019
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  3. rahl

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    Single payer is not government run healthcare. Please, PLEASE stop trying to discuss things you know nothing about. It’s painful.
     
    rahl, Jun 22, 2019
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  4. MolonLabe2009

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    Single payer is government run healthcare. Please, PLEASE stop trying to discuss things you know nothing about. It’s painful.
     
    MolonLabe2009, Jun 22, 2019
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  5. rahl

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    By definition, it is not.
    I’ve done nothing but correct you this entire thread. How are you not embarrassed?
     
    rahl, Jun 22, 2019
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  6. crank

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    What do you think our jurors are? Zebras? Lampshades? Cyborgs?
     
    crank, Jun 22, 2019
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  7. crank

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    No it isn't. It's govt FUNDED healthcare.
     
    crank, Jun 22, 2019
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  8. MolonLabe2009

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    ...and taxed and regulated by government, therefore government run.
     
    MolonLabe2009, Jun 23, 2019
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  9. MolonLabe2009

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    The government taxes and regulates single payer healthcare system, therefore it is government run.

    I’ve done nothing but correct you this entire thread. How are you not embarrassed?
     
    MolonLabe2009, Jun 23, 2019
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    Wrong. Medicare pays 80% and the supplemental plan pays most of what is left over.
     
    ibobbrob, Jun 23, 2019
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    Are we pretending Medicaid doesn't already exist?
     
    Ctrl, Jun 23, 2019
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  12. fmw

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    Why aren't you reading before writing? The current insurance companies aren't competing with free. They are competing with more expensive.
     
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    fmw, Jun 23, 2019
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  13. rahl

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    Again, by definition, it is not.

    This is laughably false, and you are perfectly aware of that.
     
    rahl, Jun 23, 2019
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    Most PPO's have both copays and deductibles.
     
    ronv, Jun 23, 2019
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    That's how every other system works. In Canada medicare for all covers about 70% of medical costs. There is a robust private insurance industry, both individual and employee plans that cover those and such things as private rooms, glasses, dentists, drugs etc..

    I find it amazing that there is such a lack of clarity over what the bumperstickers mean. Its not rocket science, its pretty straightforward structure.

    The challenge for the US is in managing the market transition when so many people are so misinformed.
     
    Jonsa, Jun 23, 2019
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    I have deductibles, but no copays.
     
    MolonLabe2009, Jun 23, 2019
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    Again, by definition, it is.
     
    MolonLabe2009, Jun 23, 2019
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  18. rahl

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    Not by the actual definition of single payer, no. Medicare is single payer. It does not control healthcare. The VA is government run healthcare, as in the government controls the paying and they control the healthcare.

    Now that you know the difference, you can stop being wrong.
     
    rahl, Jun 23, 2019
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    If Medicare was so great, then there wouldn't be a need for individuals to purchase supplemental plans.
     
    MolonLabe2009, Jun 23, 2019
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    Medicare pays 80%. If you buy outside insurance, you pay anyway. Medicare is excellent. You think you get it for free?
     
    ibobbrob, Jun 23, 2019
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  21. WillReadmore

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    Providers are still all private enterprise (outside of VA).

    There is sure to be private insurance to cover what the single payer system doesn't cover.
     
    WillReadmore, Jun 23, 2019
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  22. MolonLabe2009

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    All under the control, via taxes and regulations, of the big fat bloated Federal government. Hence, government run.
     
    MolonLabe2009, Jun 23, 2019
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    Of course it's not free. I'm not the one calling for free Medicare for all. It's the left-wingers that are calling for free this and free that.
     
    MolonLabe2009, Jun 23, 2019
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    Medicare is government run.
     
    MolonLabe2009, Jun 23, 2019
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  25. rahl

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    No, Medicare is single payer. Words mean things. Single payer, by definition is not government run healthcare. I don’t understand why you intentionally insist on being wrong. You’ve been corrected several times, by several different people.
     
    rahl, Jun 23, 2019
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