mRNA Vaccines, Proven toxic, shuts down your immune system

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    I know your posting history. You calling your posts “nothing”? LOL. You have shown no interest in facts I’ve presented.

    What’s unreasonable about my presenting evidence that conflicts with your unsubstantiated opinions? That’s all I’ve done.


    Are you claiming to be the arbiter of facts? I never have. You are welcome to use the PF quote function and show I’ve made such a claim.

    I’m sorry my presentation of evidence in other threads and now this one that conflict with you and other’s unsubstantiated and verifiably incorrect opinions is interpreted by you as arrogance. I see you calling groups idiots and calling content bullshit etc. I’ve not done anything close to that. Perhaps you are engaging in projection by bringing up arrogance.


    These threads are a place for people with different views to discuss Covid. Should every thread you post verifiable misinformation in be relegated to the conspiracy section?

    Why not just present evidence to support your position and accept that not everyone will accept it?

    So, if you say almost every single one of these threads are useless and belong in the conspiracy junkyard, who’s being an arbiter of facts? Me?

    I don’t see them as useless. They are an opportunity to discuss facts and show the value of vaccination. If they are useless to you, you could just ignore them.

    Oh. People who say threads are useless and belong in the junkyard of conspiracy’ and call people who don’t understand things idiots, or people like me who simply use evidence to support posts, tell people to avoid appeal to authority fallacy, and routinely encourage others to present better evidence if they disagree with evidence I present?
     
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    Thanks for your reply. I'm seeing a desperate need here to deliberately antagonize.
    Yeah, got it.
     
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    I’m not the one calling content bullshit and calling people idiots.

    So you are unable to validate your accusations of me claiming to be an arbiter of facts. I accept your concession that your accusation was fraudulent and disingenuous.

    If you trust anyone on matters of science, and especially your health, instead of verifying information based on evidence, you are setting yourself up for failure here and in real life. See, you CAN benefit from education!
     
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    **** . . . people actually fall for this braindead nonsense? Really? Jesus Christ on a pogo stick, there is nothing so stupid that conspiracy theorists won't beg to believe it and lick the spoon when they are done.
     
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    Turbo Death from Turbo Cancers: “We’re in Trouble,” Says Dr. Ryan Cole

    “These cancers are behaving in a very aggressive manner and not responding to therapies in the usual manner.”




    “The statistics are looking not so great,” esteemed pathologist Dr. Ryan Cole recently told Greg Hunter on USA Watchdog. “There was an injection that, like you said, 700 million doses were given approximately in the US, according to the CDC. And this injection was not a vaccine. And the media, and people’s places of work, and whatnot coerced them into thinking that it was. This was a gene-based injection.”


    If you never got one, please don’t get one,” Dr. Cole urged. Why? Because the COVID injections can lead to various detrimental health issues, such as autoimmune diseases, inflammation in the hearts of young individuals, neurological damage, and even the exacerbation of conditions like Parkinson’s and Alzheimer’s disease. “And to bring the monster in the room, cancer is on the uptick,” lamented Dr. Cole. “We’re in trouble.”

    Immune Suppression

    Dr. Ryan Cole was one of, if not the first, doctor to publicly sound the alarm on disconcerting cancer patterns after the rollout of the COVID-19 injections.

    “I’m seeing these very calm, manageable cancers take off like wildfire, like hydras, like dragons, and they’re going everywhere,” he warned in 2021.

    Why are cancers taking off “like wildfire”? Because “these shots suppress the immune system,” explained Dr. Cole.

    “It [COVID shots] puts your T cells to sleep in a manner that they can’t fight. And T cells are basically the marines of your immune system. They’re the frontline warriors. And all day long, you and I, sitting here right now, anybody listening, we have about 30 billion T cells circulating around in our body, and they’re shaking hands and talking to your cells. ‘Hey, are you a friend?’ ‘Are you a foe?’ ‘Are you infected?’ ‘Are you a cancer cell?’ ‘What do we do with you?’ And so, it [T cells] are just knocking on the door, checking all the time with all your cells,” Dr. Cole denoted.

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    T-cell activation. Image: news-medical.net
    “Well, these shots, instead of having those [T cells] be hearty, on the front line, healthy soldiers, makes them kind of drunk and go back to the barracks and go to sleep. And now they can’t do that surveillance to fight cancer.

    “And so, people ask, well, do these shots cause cancer? Well, they cause immune suppression. They cause a disruption and a dysregulation of your immune system that normally is what would fight cancer,” he added.

    Disconcerting Data

    Dr. Cole mentioned that he has traveled the world and has talked to doctors of all specialties, including oncologists, pathologists, family doctors, internists, OBGYNs, et cetera. And what they tell Dr. Cole is, “I’m seeing cancers in my practice in age groups I’ve never seen before. And it happened after the rollout of the shots.

    Dr. Cole also mentioned some alarming data that he has seen from data analyst Edward Dowd and his team at phinancetechonolgies.com.
    Edward Dowd

    “They [Dowd and his team] went in and looked at the [UK] disability data set. In 2020, there was about a 1 point something percent increase in cancer. In 2021, about 6 or 7%. But in 2022, there was a 35% expected percent [increase] above average. So, those are the types of data we’re seeing that is really concerning,” remarked Dr. Cole.

    “Turbo Cancers” Are More Aggressive and Not Responding to Conventional Therapies

    Dr. Cole explained that cancer typically follows a predictable pattern, where we can observe its progression through various stages. Usually, doctors can anticipate how it will develop and plan appropriate treatments accordingly, with each step in the process having a corresponding therapeutic approach. But “turbo cancers” are not progressing that way.

    “These cancers are behaving in a very aggressive manner and not responding to therapies in the usual manner,” explained Dr. Cole. “And that’s because the immune system is dysregulated by these lipid nanoparticle synthetic mRNA shots.”

    Turbo Cancers Are More Deadly and Kill Faster
    “The turbo cancers kill faster and [are] more aggressive. Is that right?” asked Greg Hunter.

    “They do,” answered Dr. Cole. “And it’s because the immune system can’t turn back on to fight them.”

    Dr. Cole mentioned a cancer study performed in 13 BALB/c mice. “And in 13 mice, one of them got a horrendously aggressive lymphoid cancer. One out of 13. That’s statistically a lot.”

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    Image: Igor Chudov

    “We’re seeing young people get leukemias, and they appear in the emergency room. And they’re gone within a week,” Dr. Cole added. “We have individuals that had cancer in remission. This is the one that’s been very interesting to me. People who’ve been clear of their cancer [for] 2, 3, 5, 10, even 20 years, I’ve heard in one case, where after the shots, their cancer aggressively came back.”

    More mRNA Shots on the Way

    Dr. Cole explained that the issue of cancer-causing shots isn’t limited to COVID injections alone; it pertains to the broader application of this technology involving lipid nanoparticles and synthetically engineered GMO RNA. “And they want to do this with hundreds of other products now. It’s easy for the manufacturer, but it’s not good for humanity.”

    Dr. Ryan Cole’s full interview with Greg Hunter is available to watch here.
     
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    If you watched the clip you know that Fauci, Wallenski, the NIH, the FDA, the CDC were all invited to join them and they all declined to testify on the record.

    What you and others claimed about Malone being disinfo is 100% false as proven in peer reviewed studies HERE
     
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    On top of that, there is nothing whatsoever that will dissuade one that they are in error.
     
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    Let's just ignore the bloviated reply with the "big-as-possible" images, concerning the demise of a random mouse with "turbo" cancer!

    Researchers report dramatic rise in cancer in people under 50 — Harvard Gazette
    "A study by researchers from Brigham and Women’s Hospital reveals that the incidence of early onset cancers — including breast, colon, esophagus, kidney, liver, and pancreas — has dramatically increased around the world, with the rise beginning around 1990. In an effort to understand why many more people under 50 are being diagnosed with cancer, scientists conducted extensive analyses of available data, including information on early life exposures that might have contributed to the trend.

    “From our data, we observed something called the birth cohort effect. This effect shows that each successive group of people born at a later time — e.g., a decade later — have a higher risk of developing cancer later in life, likely due to risk factors they were exposed to at a young age,” said Shuji Ogino, a professor at Harvard Chan School and Harvard Medical School and a physician-scientist in the Department of Pathology at the Brigham. “We found that this risk is increasing with each generation. For instance, people born in 1960 experienced higher cancer risk before they turn 50 than people born in 1950, and we predict that this risk level will continue to climb in successive generations.” Ogino worked with lead author Tomotaka Ugai and colleagues from 2000 to 2012 to analyze global data on 14 cancer types that showed increased incidence in adults before age 50."

    That takes us to 2012 - quite alarming!

    Cancer cases in under-50s worldwide up nearly 80% in three decades, study finds | Cancer | The Guardian

    "The number of under-50s worldwide being diagnosed with cancer has risen by nearly 80% in three decades, according to the largest study of its kind. Global cases of early onset cancer increased from 1.82 million in 1990 to 3.26 million in 2019, while cancer deaths of adults in their 40s, 30s or younger grew by 27%. More than a million under-50s a year are now dying of cancer, the research reveals. Experts are still in the early stages of understanding the reasons behind the rise in cases. The authors of the study, published in BMJ Oncology, say poor diets, alcohol and tobacco use, physical inactivity and obesity are likely to be among the factors."

    That takes us to 2019 - still quite alarming!

    Global Cancer Statistics 2020: GLOBOCAN Estimates of Incidence and Mortality Worldwide for 36 Cancers in 185 Countries - PubMed (nih.gov)
    "Worldwide, an estimated 19.3 million new cancer cases (18.1 million excluding nonmelanoma skin cancer) and almost 10.0 million cancer deaths (9.9 million excluding nonmelanoma skin cancer) occurred in 2020."
    That is 2020 - pre vaccinations.

    Global cancer burden growing, amidst mounting need for services (who.int)

    "In 2022, there were an estimated 20 million new cancer cases and 9.7 million deaths. The estimated number of people who were alive within 5 years following a cancer diagnosis was 53.5 million. About 1 in 5 people develop cancer in their lifetime, approximately 1 in 9 men and 1 in 12 women die from the disease."
    That is 2022 - post vaccinations. No "turbo" there folks!

    From the American Society:

    2020 - Estimated numbers of new cancer cases and deaths in 2020 an estimated 1.8 million new cancer cases diagnosed and 606,520 cancer deaths.
    2021 - Estimated numbers of new cancer cases and deaths in 2021 an estimated 1.9 million new cancer cases diagnosed and 608,570 cancer deaths.
    2022 - Estimated numbers of new cancer cases and deaths in 2022 an estimated 1.9 million new cancer cases diagnosed and 609,360 cancer deaths.
    2023 - Estimated numbers of new cancer cases and deaths in 2023 an estimated 1,958,310 million new cancer cases diagnosed and 609,820 cancer deaths.
    2024 - Estimated numbers of new cancer cases and deaths in 2024 an estimated 2,001,140 million new cancer cases diagnosed and 611,720 cancer deaths.

    No "turbo" there folks!

    The COVID Cancer Effect | Scientific American
    "In Boston—and around the nation—colonoscopy suites stood empty as patients refused to come in, terrified of setting foot in any hospital or clinic. Screening center schedules, once full of mammography appointments, cleared dramatically. Hospital corridors quieted; screening center workers were sent home. Hospital administrators struggled to find enough PPE to take care of urgent surgeries, and elective procedures fell to the wayside. As COVID cases surged frighteningly across the country, cancer detection seemed to be the last thing on anyone’s mind.

    The veteran oncologist feared that the lack of screenings, which aim to detect cancer at its earliest stages, would lead to a tidal wave of missed diagnoses. He worried about tumors seeding, taking hold, growing and metastasizing without being detected. He envisioned a future with streams of patients who had cancers so advanced he could no longer cure them."
     
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    AS WE HAVE TORTUOUSLY GROWN TO EXPECT ANOTHER FAIL!

    Phizer even predicts it! :roll:


    Turbo Cancer - the new Pandemic?
    17 January 2024


    Are we about to see a new pandemic - turbo cancer? Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla thinks we are. Booster shots of mRNA vaccines seem capable of waking up cancer, (and dormant viruses) in the body; doctors and oncologists have noticed it, scientists are studying it.

    Scientists are starting to provide a clearer understanding of why people who have mRNA vaccines and booster shots (Pfizer and Moderna) are subject to more viral infections (for example, Shingles). But the greater concern is that some Oncologists are witnessing sudden and more aggressive cancers after a vaccine booster shot, where the cancers had previously been relatively calm and under control. This phenomenon has been dubbed Turbo cancer.

    Background

    You have two immune systems - your innate system, which you were born with and has T-cells to attack any rogue cell that attempts to enter your body; and the Adaptive system, where you make specific antibodies from B-cells in response to infections (for example, the bacteria and viruses, that inhabit your gut). These prepare you for something bigger that may come along one day. The two immune systems cross talk.

    How the Covid vaccine damages your immune system

    ‘The BNT162b2 mRNA vaccine against SARS-CoV-2 reprograms both adaptive and innate immune responses’ is a 2021 paper (1) from scientists at the Radboud Centre for infectious diseases in the Netherlands. At the time it appeared it was conveniently ignored, as so much science has been over Covid, and was never ‘peer reviewed’. I’m not surprised. We have heard all too often in the Covid scandals that scientists do not want to step over the party line for fear of losing ‘Fauci funding’ for the rest of their scientific careers.

    The researchers were concerned that however effective the vaccine may or may not be, no studies had ever taken place on its effects on the immune system. In conducting their research, the scientists did note that the vaccine did have immune effects against several Covid variants but that these ‘started to wane after 6 months’.

    However, the BNT162b2 vaccine also produced long-term and complex transcriptional and functional changes to your innate immune response after vaccination, as assessed by RNA sequencing. The modulatory effects on the innate immune system were shown to affect the receptors on your T-cells, dendritic cells, macrophages and suppressor cells. The receptors can be upregulated by the vaccine or even turned off. This in turn can affect your cytokines and interferon that are critical in shutting down not just Covid, but cancer, pathogens and any virus.

    How is it causing this chaos? It is shutting down receptors such as Toll-like receptors 3, 4, 7 and 8.

    Toll-like receptors are proteins that play a crucial role in the innate immune system.

    • Toll-like receptors 7 and 8 keep viruses such Herpes 8, Epstein Barr and Shingles in check. After the shot, they can be reactivated; the control on them has gone. And, yes, we are seeing much larger numbers of Shingles patients after Moderna mRNA Covid vaccines (2). Epstein-Barr, Herpes and HPV could equally reawaken as could CMV, which can be found active in primary and secondary brain tumours.

    • Toll-like receptor 4 can keep cancer in check. If this receptor is down regulated or even turned off all the other cells like cytokines, interferons and macrophages are turned down or off too and there’s nothing to attack the cancer.
    Could Spike Protein itself damage the immune response in cancer patients?

    The finding that spike protein damages the processes of healthy cells has been noted several times, for example in a review by Professor Russel Reiter (3) who detailed how spike protein forms 'viral factories' in cells by regulating even the pH and ion transfer systems to maintain a high oxidative environment causing mitochondrial damage and promoting cytokine cascades. The damage can lead to hypomethylation, epigenetic change and genome instability.

    In fact, the ability of Sars-CoV-2 to block tumour suppressor protein p53, and even interact with BRCA1 and BRCA2 mutations was first reported in June 2020 (4). Is this just spike protein in the virus, or could it be the vaccine spike protein too? No one is sure.

    Turbo cancer?

    Professor Angus Dalgleish wrote to the Editor of the BMJ (5) in early 2022 (Dalgleish has played an important role in UK Oncology for 50 years, and is also an expert in viruses) - he stated evidence causing him to believe that the fourth shot boosters caused more harm than good amongst young adults and children. In November 2022, in a second letter (6), he said that he was seeing dormant cancers, particularly B-cell cancers, suddenly come alive again just a few weeks after immune suppression by booster vaccine shots, with disastrous results, citing cases in melanoma, lymphoma and leukaemia. He is not alone. There are reports from Oncologists Worldwide.

    I have seen 4-year dormant colorectal cancer suddenly spread like wildfire through the lymph after a booster shot; another man developed 20 tumours in the brain. I told him that I’d never heard of CRC going to the brain. “That’s exactly what my oncologist said, “ he replied.

    CBS stated that almost half of CRC cases in the USA are now being seen in under 55s and these tend to be at advanced stages (this was reported also on YouTube).

    More aggressive CRC, more Oesophageal cancer, Breast cancers (20+ tumours in the brain again) and especially TNBC, and many more B-cell Lymphoma and Myeloma patients. Cancers going suddenly and hugely out of control after a 'Booster shot'?


    Turbo cancer. It’s the new pandemic.

    ADDENDUM

    But are Angus Dalgleish and I just conspiracy theorists?

    Apparently not. I add this in January 2024.


    Alberta Bourla is Chairman and Chief Exec of Pfizer, the people whose Covid-19 mRNA vaccine Clinical Trial document is slowly being released. The Document makes it absolutely clear on many pages that this is NOT mRNA (messenger RNA, the natural compound) but Modified RNA, an unnatural compound. No one can argue with what it says repeatedly and openly in the Clinical Trial.

    Anyway, Bourla has been on a bit of a tour lately explaining to people the growth plans of Pfizer. In an Interview at Oxford University - it's public on YouTube (9), Boula was asked why Pfizer had paid a staggering $43 billion to buy a much smaller company called Seagen which hardly breaks $2 billion. His answer was clear. this acquisition takes Pfizer firmly into oncology where they "want to be number 1".

    He said that Seagen are experts in Turbo Cancer drugs. Apparently 33% of people are going to develop Turbo Cancer in the future and, of this Bourla is certain. Entire families. will develop it. Seagen are developing cancer drugs like 'turbo missiles' specialising in targeting 'Turbo cancer' and Pfizer will produce these missiles at a scale never seen before. " We have a very quick way of completing clinical trials and by 2025 we will have a global network to provide these missiles to people who have Turbo Cancer", said Bourla.


    No mention of a cause of Turbo cancer: a vague mention of seeing more since the Covid-19 pandemic.

    You may also have seen that Pfizer also bought Arena Pharmaceuticals for $6.7 billion and Global Blood Therapeutics for $5.4 billion. What do they do? The make cardiovascular drugs including drugs for myocarditis and pericarditis. Both of these have been officially linked to the Covid modified RNA vaccines (8).

    Go to: Covid and cancer



    *****

    References



    1. ‘The BNT162b2 mRNA vaccine against SARS-CoV-2 reprograms both adaptive and innate immune responses’ - https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.03.21256520v2
    2. Reactivation of Varicella Zoster Virus after Vaccination for SARS-CoV-2 - https://www.mdpi.com/2076-393X/9/6/572
    3. Melatonin: Regulation of Viral Phase Separation and Epitranscriptomics in Post-Acute Sequelae of COVID-19; Int J Mol Sci
      . 2022 Jul 23;23(15):8122.
    4. S2 Subunit of SARS-nCoV-2 Interacts with Tumor Suppressor Protein p53 and BRCA: an In Silico Study; Nishant Singh; Transl Oncol. 2020 Oct; 13(10): 100814; Published online 2020 Jun 30.
    5. Covid-19 Vaccine Fourth Doses - who needs them and why? BMJ; 07 Jan 2022; Letter to Editor
    6. As an Oncologist I Am Seeing People With Stable Cancer Rapidly Progress After Being Forced to Have a Booster; Letter to Editor BMJ, November 2022
    7. Pfizer finalizes $6.7 billion acquisition of Arena Pharmaceuticals, gaining key cardiovascular treatments; Cardiovascular Business
    8. CDC - 'evidence from multiple vaccine safety monitoring systems in the United States and around the globe supports a causal association between mRNA COVID-19 vaccines (i.e., Moderna or Pfizer-BioNTech) and myocarditis and pericarditis.'
    9. Bourla Interview -
     
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    You are not a "we". Your fake expectations mean nothing.
    It's Pfizer and that is a deceptive statement. No they do not.

    The article is lying. The CEO has made no such statement.

    What utter hogwash and incredibly deceptive misinformation!. The spike proteins are in vast quantities from the virus and as such are imperative for the vaccine to work. They are in very small numbers in the vaccine.

    Spam. Addressed elsewhere. Dalgleish has offered NO CORRELATION/CAUSATION to the small clinic numbers he has cited.
    No mention! No "vague" mention either!
    A ridiculous poisoning-the-well fallacy deceptive lie!

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    Wow you dont seem to understand the meaning of implication and that post totally missed the boat on whats being discussed :roflol::deadhorse::wall:

    Dalgleish recently was called upon to give his expert testimony in a Parliament hearing, what a dumb ass huh! :roflol::deadhorse::wall:
     
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    Nice evasion. I type big post, you type lots of silly little cartoon emojis. Job done huh?

    TRY AGAIN!

    Your article is total hogwash.
    1. Tell everyone about the two companies I highlighted, against what your crappy article says!
    2. Show where the CEO makes the alleged statement!
    3. Show where Dalgleish has submitted causation/correlation data
     
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    1) Academic expertise = hog wash, got it! :roflol:
    Nothing in post 63 proves a damn thing what so ever to be incorrect much less hogwash!

    2) I dont respond to off topic total bloviated misdirection bullshit that does nothing what so ever to confirm or deny issue.

    3) Read the post.

    4) The condition of his patients.

    Professor Angus Dalgleish
    Professor Angus Dalgleish
    Consultant Medical Oncologist

    QualificationsMD FRCP FRACP FRCPath Fmed Sci


    Clinical interests:
    Cancer immunotherapy. Especially as applied to melanoma, prostate, pancreatic, gliomas and other solid tumour types.

    Fees, Training & Background:
    Professor Angus Dalgleish studied medicine at University College London where he obtained an MBBS and a BSc in Anatomy. He is a Fellow of The Royal College of Physicians of the UK and Australia, Royal College of Pathologists and The Academy of Medical Scientists. After graduating and house jobs in London and Poole he spent a year in the flying doctor service in Queensland. He also trained in Internal Medicine and Oncology in Brisbane and Sydney.

    Following an interest in how viruses caused cancer, he commenced an MD with Professor Robin Weiss, FRS at the Institute of Cancer Research and Royal Marsden Hospital. Following five years as a clinical scientist at the MRC’s clinical research centre in Northwick Park, he was appointed to the Foundation Chair in Oncology at St. George’s University of London in 1991. There his main interest has been the immunology of cancer and the development of immunotherapies to treat, in particular, melanoma.

    He is a co-founder of Onyvax, a company set up in 1998 to make novel vaccines for common solid tumours, where he is currently Research Director.

    He currently sits on eight editorial boards, is the author or co-author of peer reviewed scientific papers and over 70 chapters in medical books. He is the co-editor of five medical books. He has been on numerous grant committees and is currently on the European Commission Cancer Board.



    Lets see, Dalgleish seeing patients in clinic versus some internet armchair commando that clearly does not know enough about the topic to know this is pre-study material based on in clinic response to the jab. Please let us know what you see happening with your patients in clinic Dr Beta, oh yes and do post your academic credentials so we can compare them to Dr Dalgleish.
     
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    Evasion!
    @Betamax101 why did you ignore this evidence too?
    There is also a video in the link.
     
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    For those who want to cut through the bullshit static that I'm starting to get in this thread here he is in person discussing it with another doctor.

     
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    This is ridiculous spam! You made this horseshit claim in the conspiracy section (where all this guff should be):
    Video applies here, same response!


    "A clot too far: An embalmer dissects antivax misinformation about blood clots in Died Suddenly
    Dr John Campbell is still banging on about white clots being found by embalmers in corpses. His claims have become so ridiculous that he is now the laughing stock of the medical and scientific community. In this video, Dr Susan Oliver and Cindy the dog go back to the science and show why Campbell’s claims are wrong and why everyone is laughing at him.
    https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/a-cl...
    Cadaver Clots or Agonal Thrombi?
    https://link.springer.com/chapter/10....
    Hemodynamic Disorders
    https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper...
    Chicken fat clots and current jelly clots

    https://quizlet.com/319905063/path-l5..."
     
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    biophyisiology
    Turbo Cancer biophyisiology - ignored
    Interviewer substituted for interviewee - evasion
    Pedaling quackery
     
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    For any viewers being taken in by this spammed anti-vac crap, you can see clear rebuttal videos with linked data, being ignored with meaningless and useless posts. All the crap suggested as "ignored" has been addressed, as always the rebuttal is the thing being ignored.
     
  21. Kokomojojo

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    I suppose, if people want to accept spam stupidity ^ over academic studies/papers v previously posted!


    Biomedicines. 2023 Aug; 11(8): 2287.
    Published online 2023 Aug 17. doi: 10.3390/biomedicines11082287
    PMCID: PMC10452662
    PMID: 37626783

    ‘Spikeopathy’: COVID-19 Spike Protein Is Pathogenic, from Both Virus and Vaccine mRNA

    This two-part narrative review presents evidence for the widespread harms of novel product COVID-19 mRNA and adenovector DNA vaccines and is novel in attempting to provide a thorough overview of harms arising from the new technology in vaccines that relied on human cells producing a foreign antigen that has evidence of pathogenicity.

    This first paper explores peer-reviewed data counter to the ‘safe and effective’ narrative attached to these new technologies.

    Spike protein pathogenicity, termed ‘spikeopathy’, whether from the SARS-CoV-2 virus or produced by vaccine gene codes, akin to a ‘synthetic virus’, is increasingly understood in terms of molecular biology and pathophysiology.
    [Like Malone said]
    Pharmacokinetic transfection through body tissues distant from the injection site by lipid-nanoparticles or viral-vector carriers means that ‘spikeopathy’ can affect many organs.
    [Like Malone said]
    The inflammatory properties of the nanoparticles used to ferry mRNA; N1-methylpseudouridine employed to prolong synthetic mRNA function; the widespread biodistribution of the mRNA and DNA codes and translated spike proteins, and autoimmunity via human production of foreign proteins, contribute to harmful effects.
    [Like Malone said]
    This paper reviews autoimmune, cardiovascular, neurological, potential oncological effects, and autopsy evidence for spikeopathy.


    Key problem areas appear to be

    (1) the toxicity of the spike protein—both from the virus and also when produced by gene codes in the novel COVID-19 mRNA and adenovectorDNA vaccines [1,2], hence the novel term ‘spikeopathy’;

    (2) inflammatory properties of certain lipid-nanoparticles used to ferry mRNA [3];

    (3) N1-methylpseudouridine in the synthetic mRNA that causes long-lasting action [4];

    (4) widespread biodistribution of the mRNA [5] and DNA [6,7] codes via the lipid-nanoparticle and the viral-vector carrier matrices, respectively and (5) the problem of human cells producing a foreign protein in our ribosomes that can engender autoimmunity [8,9].

    An umbrella literature review of publications between December 2019 and August 2021 revealed that the greatest risk of mortality due to COVID-19 was associated with cardiovascular disease, cerebrovascular disease, and chronic renal disease [10].

    The mRNA and adenovectorDNA vaccines have been produced by large pharmaceutical companies and favoured by regulators in most Western nations.

    [Phizer fired their regulator when he objected to their methods!]

    It has been widely claimed that these vaccines have saved millions of lives. Sincere hopes have been held for this narrative. But this belief is largely founded on early Infection Fatality Rate (IFR) modelling estimates and Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca and Janssen claims of efficacy, which have been undermined by new data.

    Controversy has surrounded the use of the gene-based vaccines and this article explores the reason for this.

    To meet the widespread desire for ‘safe and effective’ vaccines, gene-based technology offers rapid speed of production. Hope has perhaps influenced much of the published literature as well as media narrative.

    A central issue has been growing evidence of pathogenic effects of the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein—whether as part of the virus or produced by genetic codes in the mRNA and adenovectorDNA vaccines.

    The aim of this narrative review is to present a comprehensive account of the pathogenicity of the antigen, the biodistribution of the gene codes for the antigen throughout the body, their modified long-lasting nature particularly with the mRNA vaccines, and literature and data that show the adverse events that would be expected from such biodistribution and cellular production of a foreign antigen.

    The review presents a case of premature translation of experimental gene therapy technology to mass public vaccination and ethical and regulatory issues that need scrutiny and reform before the next pandemic.


    Central to individual informed consent decisions and public health policy is the weighing of the risks of an illness versus the risks and potential benefits of an intervention.

    Given the risks of novel gene-based COVID-19 vaccines, were they worth it in light of the severity of SARS-CoV-2 infection? We address the risks of COVID-19 first.

    The claim of millions of lives saved by COVID-19 gene-based vaccines was partly based on assumptions that the COVID-19 vaccines protected against infection and transmission, which was not the case because systemic immunity to respiratory viruses is not as effective as mucosal immunity from infection, and because of the continually evolving variants perhaps partly driven by adaptive evasion of vaccine-induced antibodies. Pfizer admitted that its phase 3 clinical trial [12] did not test for viral transmission [13].

    [https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/body/23064-dna-genes--chromosomes Malone was right!]

    However, presumptions of efficacy have been sustained by COVID-19 modellers, and reiterated by health authorities, medical publications, and the media.

    [They Lied]

    This is exhibited by Watson et al., (2022) in “Global impact of the first year of COVID-19 vaccination: a mathematical modelling study”, published in The Lancet Infectious Diseases [14]. The authors estimate around 14.4 million lives saved related to vaccination benefits that include protection against infection and transmission, both now recognised to be unfounded.

    We will summarise the evidence that the spike protein itself is independently bioactive and pathogenic. The spike protein has been directly related to both the pathophysiology that underlies COVID-19 viral illness and the serious adverse events from the COVID-19 vaccines that, via gene therapy mechanisms, induce human cells to produce the spike protein in substantial numbers.

    Key Points
    • Highly safe and effective vaccines are central to combat infectious disease epidemics/pandemics.

    • SARS-CoV-2 spike protein is pathogenic, whether from the virus or created from genetic code in mRNA and adenovectorDNA vaccines.
    • Biodistribution rodent study data show lipid nanoparticles carry mRNA to all organs and cross blood-brain and blood-placenta barriers. Some of these tissues are likely to be impervious to viral infection; therefore, the biohazard is particularly from vaccination.
    • Lipid-nanoparticles have inflammatory properties.
    • The modification of mRNA with N1-methylpseudouridine for increased stability leads to the production of spike proteins for months.
    • [Exactly what Malone claims!!]

    • It is uncertain how many cells and from which organs mRNA spike proteins are produced, and therefore, the exact effective dose delivered per vaccine vial is unknown.
    • The long-term fate of mRNA within cells is currently unknown.

    • [We know now due to the ongoing excess deaths with no end in sight]

    • The mRNA and adenovectorDNA vaccines act as ‘synthetic viruses’.
    • In the young and healthy, and even in many older individuals with vulnerable comorbidities, the encoding-based COVID-19 vaccines will likely transfect a far more diverse set of tissues than infection by the virus itself.
    • Evidence suggests reverse transcription of mRNA into a DNA copy is possible. This further suggests the possibility of intergenerational transmission if germline cells incorporate the DNA copy into the host genome.
    • Production of foreign proteins such as spike protein on cell surfaces can induce autoimmune responses and tissue damage. This has profoundly negative implications for any future mRNA-based drug or vaccine.
    • The spike protein exerts its pathophysiological effects (‘spikeopathy’) via several mechanisms that lead to inflammation, thrombogenesis, and endotheliitis-related tissue damage and prion-related dysregulation.
    • Interaction of the vaccine-encoded spike protein with ACE-2, P53 and BRCA1 suggests a wide range of possible biological interference with oncological potential.
    • Adverse event data from official pharmacovigilance databases, an FDA-Pfizer report obtained via FOI, show high rates and multiple organ systems affected: primarily neurological, cardiovascular, and reproductive.
    • Pfizer and Moderna mRNA COVID-19 vaccines’ clinical trial data independently interpreted has been peer-review and published to show an unfavourable risk/benefit, especially in the non-elderly. The risks for children clearly outweigh the benefits.
    • Repeated COVID-19 vaccine booster doses appear to induce tolerance and may contribute to recurrent COVID-19 infection and ‘long COVID’.
    • The SARS-CoV-2 pandemic has revealed deficiencies in public health and medicines regulatory agencies.
    • A root cause analysis is needed for what now appears a rushed response to an alarming infectious disease pandemic.
    • Treatment modalities for ‘spikeopathy’-related pathology in many organ systems, require urgent research and provision to millions of sufferers of long-term COVID-19 vaccine injuries.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10452662/


    Oh well I guess thats the best they can do when they are not able to rationally address issues.
     
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    Betamax101 Well-Known Member

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    Every day posts are systematically evaded. We get dishonest claims back that posts are being evaded when they are not. We get posts being spammed across multiple threads.
     
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    You have already posted the same information in the above post. I removed the content because it’s already been posted elsewhere.

    I guess if you choose to repost, I will repost my answer which addresses the ‘academic paper’ you discussed in that post.

    The authors of this article are heavily biased to begin with. The lead author is a child and adolescent psychiatrist with no expertise related to vaccines, immunotherapy, or any other related field. Three of the authors are associated with the “Children’s Health Defense” which is group known to produce misinformation related to vaccines and therefore biased. The journal the article is published in is on the predatory journal list which probably means none of the top journals would touch it with a ten foot pole. ‘Peer-reviewed’ in a predatory journal means little to nothing.

    The article does not present ‘evidence’, it is a literature review which offers an overview of existing research that they chose to include. Some to the ‘research’ they included were opinion articles. The also offered misleading interpretation of proper research.

    I will summarize the paper briefly.

    The authors state that spike protein ‘can’ be toxic to many organs. ‘Can be’ does not translate into research that demonstrates the spike protein is toxic to many organs. Therefore, any person making causal statements related to the spike proteins is posting erroneous information.

    They state that the mRNA covid vaccines ‘can’ induce a wide variety of diseases. Again ‘can’ doesn’t mean they actually do produce a wide variety of diseases. In fact, they have produced no research articles that have demonstrated a correlation between spike proteins and organ toxicity nor that spike proteins causing any disease. They don’t do their own research.

    The authors presented some very dodgy information. They attempted to connect spike proteins to prions by stating that a person who received the vaccine got Creutzfieldt-Jakob disease just 5 days post vaccine. They didn’t include a reference to that statement. They also omitted the fact that the incubation for prion diseases is years or decades, not five days. So extremely dishonest and misleading.

    They included two references that were opinion articles lifted off the internet. Not appropriate in real peer-reviewed journals.

    They included a paper that was a computer prediction with no real-world data on spike proteins. Therefore, can’t be used as proof of anything.

    They cited a paper where they stated spike proteins crossed the blood brain barrier in mice without mentioning the mice were genetically engineered to have no blood brain barriers. A truly misleading statement.

    The falsely stated that the spike protein disrupts the blood brain barrier, but the authors in the paper they cited stated that they were referring to the virus not the spike protein. The also stated the virus appears to downregulates the BBB, not disrupt it.

    The authors used information from a research paper about CNS damage in Alzheimer’s disease due to SARS-CoV-2 infection and tried to link it to vaccines. The authors of the paper about CNS damage emphasized in their abstract that their findings did not apply to vaccines.

    You can’t trust anything in a paper when there is misleading and outright wrong information presented. This paper should not have passed peer review.

    You can’t just cherry pick comments from a misleading article post them in bolded red and make statements of evidence. Just because an opinion agrees with Malone’s doesn’t make it true.

    It’s pretty well pointless to discuss anything with you because you merely respond by dumping quotes steeped in misinformation and avoid answering questions. You are misrepresenting opinions as facts — when a somebody says ‘can’ or ‘could’, it does not mean ‘does’. That isn’t proof, yet you are totally and disingenuously posting opinions as fact when there is no research out there that has conclusively proven any of your claims.
     
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    MuchAdo Well-Known Member

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    There is no such thing as ‘turbo cancer’.

    David Gorski has written about this. He said that the cancers from the bombing of Nagasaki and Hiroshima took at least two years to develop and those cancers were the result of the most powerful carcinogen of all — large doses of ionizing radiation. After the bombings, it took cancers in the blood about two years to show up and it took most ‘solid’ cancers about 10 years to show up. If the vaccines were a powerful carcinogen as stated by some nutters, then we would be seeing the beginning of leukemias in a large proportion of people who received the vaccine, not solid cancers.

    https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/do-covid-19-vaccines-cause-turbo-cancer/
     
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    yeh its not injected into the body using mRNA nanolipoproteins doped with N1-methylpseudouridine.

    Consider doing a bit of homework before posting.
     

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