Mueller's report looks bad for Obama

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  1. JakeStarkey

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    To bad that is not so.

    But, think of it, you have all the election season to draw the electorate and evaluate the GOP falsehoods.
     
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    I believe that Hannity and his emboldened shpeil are a bunch of crap.
     
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    and? Read your history. :)
     
  4. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I gather what you mean is you want your news given to you from the distinctly Democratic party point of view!!!! I think i understand. When I was also a Democrat, i too wanted news spun to favor Democrats.
     
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    I don’t know what he could have done. I’m willing to consider he should have done more, but I have no idea what.
     
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    The partisan war far will be less partisan once the American people see what really Mueller said in his report which shows that Barr is nothing more than Trump's lap boy.

    "Barr: stated in his corrupted version of Muellers Report ‘that while this report does not conclude the President committed a crime It also does not exonerate him. But Barr deliberately ignored the two sentences before that line.

    From Mueller: "If we had confidence that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of Justice we would say so. Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards however we are unable to reach that judgment a thorough FBI investigation would have uncovered facts about the campaign and the President personally that the president could have understood to be crimes or that would have risen to personnel and considerable concern. Also Mueller said this:With respect to whether the President can be found to have obstructed justice by exercising his powers under Article II of the Constitution, we concluded that Congress has authority to prohibit a President's corrupt use of his authority in order to protect the integrity of the administration of justice,”

    There's a great deal more from the report that Bar was hiding.
    You have to ask yourself why is Trump rated in the low to mid 40s in the latest polls despite a somewhat booming economy? The answer is no one trusts Trump and as more revelations come out of the Mueller report the lack of trust will intensify.. There are also 10 investigations looking into Trump and his organizations outside of Congress. Trump's corrupted activities will be the talk of the Country into 2020.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html


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    Think it’ll be as disappointing for you as the last IG report you guys hyped?
     
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    Rarely do I put a like for your posts but you earned one this time from me.

    Obama had his hands full. First more than merely Government, he would have to exercise control over private industry. Trying to boss Facebook around can't be easy. But it was not Trumps fault. What Russia did it did for it's own purposes using it's own reasons. Trump never called that phase the witch hunt/ But he called tryin to insert his name in is one. I agree with Trump about that.
     
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    Report makes clear they wanted trump to win
     
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    The hack of the dnc by Russians who wanted to help trump
     
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    Would you have liked for Obama to hold a press conference and announce Russia was meddling to help trump? I’d have been ok with that, but we both know fox and trump would lose their minds.
     
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    You do know that this guy is a right wing spin doctor, don’t you? He used to work for Mitch.
     
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    What? By that time, Trump had been working with the Russians for almost a year.

    It was about the time that Flynn talked to Kislyak (known to be the FSB Head of Station in the US), and when Kushner was promoting that scheme to set up a secret back channel between the FSB and the White House.
     
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    A throw away post.
     
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    Where is that in the report. I downloaded it so will happily study the part you are pointing to.

    Trump had worked with the Russians at least to prior to the contest in Russia. But that has nothing to do with being president. Flynn might have done his when working for Obama. Kushner was pretty tied up in other projects so how is he related to Russia?
     
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    Gladly you call a person a right wing spin doctor. Try identifying your left wing spin doctors. Such as Obama and his group.
     
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    Normally sunshine is a very good cure. It told them you know they are meddling, the Russians could waste a lot of time trying to burrow deeper or quit. Obama should do as he would say a hurricane was on the way that was enormous.

    Trump would be less inclined to be involved at all with Russians. I don't buy the story he was and Mueller cleared that up.
     
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    lulz...................you really are tilting at the windmills as of late. Desperate times call for desperate measures.:roflol:
     
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    Have you ever stopped to think if feces hurt Hillary, it would have been in her best interest the feces was not in the DNC!!!! See the point there?
     
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    You do know both Obamas hated the Beast with every inch of their body and souls didn't you? Hard to blame them..........most sane people do.
     
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    Here’s what’s telling to me





    Notice how when Eric Holder allowed Obama to use executive privilege to withhold documents and was held in contempt there was no outrage about Holder being Obama’s personal attorney. Just look how democrats are being held to a lower standard
     
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    We're talking about a lying thieving President who is the most powerful person in the free world. I have no clue how Holder comes into this. It appears like misplaced anger on your part or long smoldering hatred . Trump is the most corrupt investigated president in our history. These are theTrump investigations outside of Congress but Trump is keeping Congress busy as well.

    Cohen pleaded guilty in August of 2018 to campaign finance violations and other financial crimes, admitting he made payments to Karen McDougal and Stormy Daniels to keep them quiet in the run up the 2016 election. In December, he was sentenced to three years in prison. Prosecutors directly implicated the President when they said in December that Cohen acted “in coordination and at the direction of” Trump. Since then, federal

    Federal prosecutors in multiple offices have been looking into the record $107 million that Trump’s inauguration committee raised and asking questions about who the money came from, how it was spent and whether the committee gave donors favors or special access.

    Last September, Republican political consultant Sam Patten admitted steering $50,000 from a Ukrainian oligarch to Trump’s inauguration committee. FBI agents found more evidence about the inauguration when they were investigating Cohen, Trump’s former lawyer.

    Mueller’s office initially looked into potential foreign donations to the inauguration, and now the U.S. attorney’s offices in Manhattan and Brooklyn are both investigating the involvement of foreign money. In February, prosecutors for the Southern District of New York sent a subpoena to the Trump inaugural committee demanding documents about the committee’s spending and donors. Prosecutors in New Jersey and the District of Columbia also sent subpoenas to the committee in separate probes.

    When Cohen testified in front of Congress last month, he mentioned that the Trump Organization inflated its assets to insurance companies. Days later, the New York Department of Financial Services sent a subpoena to Aon, the Trump Organization’s longtime insurance broker, according to the New York Times.

    When Cohen testified in front of Congress last month, he mentioned that the Trump Organization inflated its assets to insurance companies. Days later, the New York Department of Financial Services sent a subpoena to Aon, the Trump Organization’s longtime insurance broker, according to the New York Times. The Department of Financial Services is an agency that supervises the insurance industry, so it does not conduct criminal investigations. However, it it found wrongdoing, it could refer that information to prosecutors.

    In another inquiry prompted by Cohen’s testimony, the New York attorney general this month began looking into several Trump Organization projects, including a failed attempt to buy the Buffalo Bills football team. Investigators sent subpoenas to Deutsche Bank and Investors Bank about the projects in early March, according to the Times.

    Deutsche Bank has been under scrutiny as one of the few financial institutions willing to lend money to the Trump Organizations in recent years. The scope of this investigation is not clear, but the subpoenas requested information about loan applications, mortgages, credit and other financial interactions related to Trump properties in Washington, Florida, New York and Chicago, according to the Times.

    The New York attorney general’s office sued the Donald J. Trump Foundation and its directors last year, saying they engaged in a “shocking pattern of illegality.” The Trumps agreed to dissolve the foundation in December, but the suit is still going. The attorney general wants the Trumps to pay millions in penalties and bar him from serving on the board of any New York charity for a decade, while the Trumps are claiming that the suit was politically motivated.

    The Trump Foundation is also under investigation for potentially violating state tax laws. This case could lead to a criminal referral, unlike the civil case above.

    The New York state tax department said in October it was looking into allegations brought up in a New York Times investigation into decades of Trump’s “tax schemes.” New York City officials have also said they are examining Trump’s tax history.

    After two undocumented immigrants who worked at Trump’s golf club in New Jersey went public in interviews with the Times in December, federal and state investigators started looking into the situation. Lawyers for the two workers said in December that the FBI and the New Jersey attorney general’s office were examining allegations that the Trump golf club hired workers using fraudulent papers. Then in February, Democrats in Congress called for the FBI to fully investigate the situation.

    There were questions about whether Trump would personally profit from his position as President even before he entered the White House. In June 2017, the attorneys general of Maryland and Washington D.C. sued Trump, claiming that his D.C. hotel violated the Emoluments Clause of the United States Constitution, which says that no federal official can accept any gift or benefit “of any kind whatever” from any foreign government.

    Trump’s former personal lawyer filed a lawsuit in New York state court on March 7 claiming the Trump Organization breached a contract because it stopped paying his legal fees last year. The court filing alleges the organization stopped paying him after it became clear he would cooperate with investigators, and says Trump’s company owes him $1.9 million.

    Summer Zervos was a contestant on the Apprentice and said in 2016 that Trump had sexually assaulted her in 2007. After Trump called her a liar on the campaign trial, and Zervos filed a defamation lawsuit against him in 2017. Trump will likely keep fighting the suit, so his deposition is not certain, but it would be a field of landmines, as he would be under oath.

    Now that Democrats control the House, Intelligence Committee chair Adam Schiff is diving back into the Russia investigation. He has expanded the probe and plans to investigate not only Russian interference, but also Russian connections to Trump, whether Russians hold any leverage over Trump or members of his team and whether Trump has obstructed justice.

    Trump is the most corrupt president in our history and you're worried about Holder???
     
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    He did, they didn’t.
     
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    ^ Did not read. Reason: Deflection to "oh look, New York Southern District has him now!" Never saw that coming!

    So predictable..........:roflol:

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    Exactly! I even posted videos to illustrate my point yet apparently that was too difficult
     
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