Muslims and Christians dont worship the same God.

what manner of rambling nuttery is this?

 

So Wanny, what happened to all the babies and children when god flooded the world? did god drown them, or what?

 

The idea that Allah is supposed to be the name of god is a mistaken one. Allah is simply the word used to address god in Arabic. The best translation for it would be God. Islam prohibits speaking the true name of god, so Allah is used to address him. The word was taken from paganism, but Christianity does the same thing. Hell is taken from the Norse goddess Hel, and the entire concept was created to frighten Vikings and other followers of Norse mythology into converting. Muslims chose to use a word associated with a pagan god to symbolize that Allah was the true god, and the false ones had no right to the name.

God orders the ****ws to slaughter every man, women, and child, of all tribes who refuse to convert, and destroy all of their idols and make it so they never existed. So, god pretty much hated anyone who refused to worship him.


The stuff about the 72 virgins being awarded to martyrs is not in the Quran, it was written in another document which is not held as scripture by all Muslims.

 

The Koran does say that the lucky guys will be married to houris (fair ones) and also boy-servants.

52:20-24 = 20. They will recline (with ease) on thrones arranged in ranks. And We shall marry them to Houris (female, fair ones) with wide lovely eyes.21. And those who believe and whose offspring follow them in Faith, to them shall We join their offspring, and We shall not decrease the reward of their deeds in anything. Every person is a pledge for that which he has earned.
22. And We shall provide them with fruit and meat, such as they desire.
23. There they shall pass from hand to hand a (wine) cup, free from any Laghw (dirty, false, evil vague talk between them), and free from sin (because it will be legal for them to drink).
24. And there will go round boy-servants of theirs, to serve them as if they were preserved pearls.
http://www.noblequran.com/translation/

56:1-38 http://quran.com/56/1-38

 

Saying Islam worships a different God than Christians or Jews is about as retarded as saying Mormons worship a seperate god.

 

Mormons think that they can become gods themselves, each with his own planet and harem. So there will be millions of Mormon gods, not just one.

 

God gives his name to Abraham. "El Shaddai" Genesis 17:1 Unfortunately Biblical Translation is so pathetic these days that this name has been changed to "God Almighty" or some similar derivation.http://biblehub.com/genesis/17-1.htm

Here is another bastardized attempt but you can at least see the original Hebrew http://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/OTpdf/gen17.pdf

So what is it that the copyists are trying to hide ? El (Lord) Shaddai (the name of a Canaanite God)

Abraham lived in Canaan so it makes sense that he would adopt a Canaanite God as his personal God

 

Eating bread and drinking wine is not cannibalism he reveal to them and to us that he is the Son of God
Matthew 26:
26 While they were eating, Jesus took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to his disciples, saying, “Take and eat; this is my body.”
27 Then he took a cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you.
28 This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.

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It is about refuting the blokes that was posted and presenting the truth through Biblical history.

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So we do agree that before the flood cannibalism was part of the wickedness and evilness that was being practiced that led to the flooding, right?

 

It is also from Muslim other documents that Mohammed was frighten three times when the spirit appeared to him and he did not know nor did the spirit introduced him / her self that he is the Gabriel angel. It was his wife Kadihja who told Mohammed and convince him that it was Gabriel question now is how did Kadihja knew it was Gabriel? So this being said let it be known that this information is not from Christian sources but from Muslim sources.

 

Christians do not like to think about that, their God would not pull a Andrea Yates to so many babies

 

Atheist do not like to think about God goodness.

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If God have not appeared to Abraham chances are he would have adapted and embraced Canaanite god or religion.

 

on the contrary, I think a real God would be much better then the one of the bible or the koran.... seems Christians And Muslims disagree with me though

 

The Judeo-Christian God teaches "thou shall not kill".
The Quran has over 100 verses promoting violence against nonbelievers.

How is that the same God?

 

I guess you you think pretending the verses of the bible in the post you quoted don't exist makes you feel all warm inside.

The Christian, Jewish and Muslim god are all the same god of Abraham.

 

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Chronicles+15:13&version=KJV

2 Chronicles 15:13

King James Version (KJV)

13That whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.

 

As soon as Moses said that he went on a murderous rage and killed over 3,000 of his own herd. The Bible is full of stories that encourage killing. Jesus is eager to throw people into the fire. The Bible is over twice as violent as the Koran.

As it says in Deuteronomy 32:39-42 (MSG) = “Do you see it now? Do you see that I’m the one?
Do you see that there’s no other god beside me?
I bring death and I give life, I wound and I heal—
there is no getting away from or around me!
I raise my hand in solemn oath;
I say, ‘I’m always around. By that very life I promise:
When I sharpen my lightning sword
and execute judgment,
I take vengeance on my enemies
and pay back those who hate me.
I’ll make my arrows drunk with blood,
my sword will gorge itself on flesh,
Feasting on slain and captive alike,
the proud and vain enemy corpses.’”

 

No doubt the real God is indeed better than the Islam god. The only thing I disagree with you is that you insist that God (Christian God) is bad because God acted against evil. At the same time atheist who do not believe in God are much worse than the Islamist.

 

Christian worship Jesus Christ
Jewish worship not Jesus Christ
Muslims worship Allah not Christian Jesus Christ and not Jewish God of Noah.

 

How do you know God ordered people to do that? People could have acted out of their own will in that verse.

 

How does a lack of belief in deity make you a bad person or "worse than the Islamist?" Atheists abide by the same morality that the rest of society does. You don't have to believe in God to know that killing someone is wrong. In fact, I find that if the only reason why you are being a good person is because of God, and not by pure virtue of being a good person, this makes YOU immoral.

 

Which is the son of the god of Abraham.

But the god Of Abraham.

But the god of Abraham.

 

They are the same God. And committed the same atrocities.

God created evil.

 

What happened to all the babies and children when god flooded the world? Did they drown?

 

The god of Abraham was worthless. He told the old crazy coot to slice and dice his son and roast him like a piece of meat. And his big thing was slicing off a guy's foreskin as part of a silly religious ritual. He was nuttier than the crazy Abraham. Moses's god was a lot better. He came up with a lot of useless rules and he was a homicidal maniac but he was more creative in his delusions than Abraham's one track deity was. Neither one was worth spit.

 

How does not believing in God not worse than an Islamist? Atheist atrocities ever since they have been identified in the early 1900's i sin equal footing with the Islamist the millions of people that atheist have murdered in a short period of time from the 1900 to 1980 is very horrifying from the Soviet Union, East Germany, Poland or WARSAW Pact nations, communist China, North Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia.
Atheist abide by their own sets of morality that is the not similar to Christianity example: Christians believe in freedom of religion and preservation of truth and respect for human rights. Atheist don't believe on those that is why in communist atheist countries they hate Christians and Christians are their number one target.
Atheist because of their lack of believe in God they have no problem in killing, suppressing and murdering anyone who refused to submit to their will for them the people are expendable.
We Christians learn to be good because of God that is why it has always been the Christians that has always stand up against tyrants, dictators and terrorist. It would be Christians that would stand up to the barbarians, Christians that would stand up to the Mohammedans, Christians that would stand up to communism, Christians that would up to today standing up against the Islamist terrorist all of these because of morality against immorality.