My advice to conspiracy theorists

AlQaeda was created and is controlled by said Shadow Government. You also should believe the evidence, not the hype, the lies, "nor" the opinions.

With over 8000 posts on this forum with a good amount of those on the conspiracy board, I don't think I would be able to show you anything you haven't seen already. But even if I did show you anything new, what it really register with you? I'm thinking not.

May I ask why you waste you time here? Why waste your time on things (and people) that you do not believe and think are bats*it crazy?

 

I see. You don't have evidence so you spout opinion and hope it is perceived as evidence. It isn't. You, like the rest of the truthers, try to pretend you have evidence and believe the evidence, yet can't produce the evidence. I, on the other hand, can back up my claims with real evidence that has stood up in a court of law. I know the truth chaps your hide, but that isn't my concern.

Yet when asked to present one real piece of evidence, you failed and failed big time. Why is that? One thing I haven't seen yet is one real piece of evidence.

Because you are promoting a lie. You are (*)(*)(*)(*)ting on the memories of the three thousand victims of 9/11 in order to push your anti government agenda you can't prove, yet wish people to act on. So I like to spend my time proving truthers are, as you put it, bat(*)(*)(*)(*) crazy and that your theories are nothing but paranoid delusions and bull(*)(*)(*)(*). You like to post lies. I like to prove they are lies. Two sides of the same coin.

 

I think you're a very angry person.



"I, on the other hand, can back up my claims"

What are your claims?


"Yet when asked to present one real piece of evidence, you failed"

I didn't fail to provide you anything, I simply don't really want to waste my time. You're as convinced as I am. So .... really what's the point? But here's one for the heck of it. How did "Al Ciaeda" get there hands on Thermite and manage to plant it all over the twin towers?


"You are (*)(*)(*)(*)ting on the memories of the three thousand victims of 9/11"

Most of those victims and Families are behind the truth. Which is where I stand.


Can you try and take your anger out of your responses please? If you can not do that, I will not respond to you.

 

Nope. Just don't care much for truthers.

That Al Qaeda was behind 9/11. And no, I don't believe some "shadow government" controls Al Qaeda. There is no evidence to back up that claim.

That is the same pathetic excuse I get time and time again from truthers. You would think with all this evidence you pretend to have that you could produce just one piece right off the top of your head. Guess not.

I follow the evidence. Want to convince me of something? Present the evidence.

To convince people. That is what you're here for, right?

Ah. Instead of evidence I get a question. First one has to buy into your completely bull(*)(*)(*)(*) notion that there was thermite involved. There is no evidence of thermite. Alex Jones et. al. found some thermitic material after they refined the heck out of the paint chips. Further testing found nothing but paint chips. Then there is the issue with thermite in the paint. That would make the steel warm if you could ever get a reaction out of the thermite mixed with paint. It would also take literally TONS of thermite to burn through each of the columns plus a bunch of equipment since thermite only cuts down. Now mind you, that is TONS per floor as truthers like to pretend each floor had thermite on it.

Now, instead of playing the childish game of pretending your bull(*)(*)(*)(*) is a foregone conclusion, would you care to actually present some evidence and not a question wrapped in a paranoid delusion?

Bull(*)(*)(*)(*). A very small fraction of the families support the truth movement. I know a few people who lost friends and family on 9/11. They all think you're a bunch of '***** and would spit on you if they could. Of course NONE of the victims support your bull(*)(*)(*)(*). They're dead. Did you think I was talking about 3000 victims who survived?

Oh, and you don't stand for the truth. If you stood for the truth, you would have evidence and not opinion, questions or lies to back up your claims. People claiming to be for the truth but can't back up their claims with evidence are delusional pure and simple.

Yet another convenient excuse to run away. Off with you, junior. I responded to your questions. It isn't my fault truthers tend to be a rather thin skinned bunch while throwing veiled insults of their own around.

If you do bother to reply, I will move it to the 9/11 forum and leave this thread for debate on advice to conspiracy theorists.

 

Thanks.
This thread was indeed getting way off-topic.

Appreciate it, sir.

 

The proof that 9/11 was an inside job is so clear that the only way you're going to make people think otherwise is to keep them from seeing the proof by burying it deep in the thread and making it harder to come across. I posted it in post #2 of this thread...
http://www.politicalforum.com/consp...vice-conspiracy-theorists.html#post1061186340

...so all of your sophistry is really just a big waste of your time. There is a point at which things are so clear that sophistry becomes ineffective. You pro-official version people are just wasting your time.

 

Indeed Scott

 

Scott, dear fellow,

I need you to take a seat, my good man.

I have bad news. Really bad news.
Are you ready?

The attacks of September 11th, 2001, were perpetrated by radical muslims. Agents of a hate group known as 'Al Qaeda'.

All of the physical evidence supports this fact.
None of the physical evidence, NONE of it, supports your absurd minority opinion.

My recommendation, good friend?

Step away from the computer for a few days.
Take a walk in the park.
Read a summer novel.
Relax, have some wine with a nice girl.
Talk with her about sports, and about music.

Who knows? Maybe she'll take a liking to you.
Romance could blossom.
You might find yourself in a meaningful, rewarding relationship.

Love, and the fun and adventure of a summer romance is just what you need.

This business of arguing nonsensical web-links on the internet?
Buddy.
It's getting you nowhere.

Get out there now. Meet a girl. Fall in love. Have fun. Enjoy life outdoors, and away from the computer.

 

r3000,

You do know that the Government can activate your webcam, right?
They can even turn it on when your computer isn't even on.


They watch you when you don't know it, and they can see whether you click 'like' or 'dislike' on web forums.

It's scary stuff, man.
Big Brother gone too far, in my opinion.

 

I don't have a web cam. You?

 

I do have a web cam.

With 137,000 bit encryption, and binary double-blind home-safe password protection.

You don't have a webcam?
Really?
Not that you know of, anyway.

The Government.
They have their ways, I'm telling you.

Just mind your p's and q's, that's all I'm saying.

 

The best way to fight the government is not to hide and keep quiet. That will never work. It will only get worse. The only way to defeat it is to tell the world. And loudly!!!






(9/11 inside job)

 

How loudly, exactly?

Because you know they put stuff in your drinking water.
Stuff that makes you sensitive to noise and light.
And it makes you docile and subservient, if you drink enough of it.

Best to avoid drinking water, and drink strictly beer, wine and spirits brewed and fermented in countries you can trust.
Bathe only in water from Evian bottles.
Evian water has been proven to be free of impurities, and their unique capping system makes it extremely hard for government agents to tamper with it.

I'm only sharing this information with you because you seem like a kindred spirit.
A dude who has his stuff in one tight bundle.
A real survivor.

Trust no one.
If you are in a room with three people, guess how many you can trust?

None of them.
I repeat;
Trust no one.

 

OK, you say this, yet you run from actually defending your beliefs. How does that work in "defeating the government"? Volume doesn't convince people. Evidence does. You've already confirmed for us that you have no evidence. People associate the people who make huge claims without evidence to the nuts on the corners screaming about the end of the world. They are loud, obnoxious, show signs of mental illness, but don't know what they are talking about.




(9/11 inside job)[/QUOTE]

 

You sound a little crazy.

 

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herpa derp......


News Flash Pat, I'm not here to convince you of anything. I get it you're a believer, what do you want from me?

 

Yet this is exactly the kind of stuff we hear from conspiracy theorists.

 

Herpa derp right back at ya. All I want is one single shred of evidence your bull(*)(*)(*)(*) theories you wish other people to believe and act in are actually true. Don't YOU consider it important for a rebellion to be based on the truth and not the fantasies of a bunch of childish twits?

 

Originally Posted by r3000
"You sound a little crazy."


That was satire, buddy.

I was making fun of conspiracy-theorists.

And yeah, I probably am a little crazy.
We all are, each in our own way.

 

The evidence is out there right in front of you. You don't believe it, ok fine. That is your choice. And I support your right to spout whatever you believe.

I, as a free American (while it lists) choose to spread the truth as I see it. And I expect you to respect that right as a free.... who ever you are.


What rebellion are you talking about exactly?

 

Yes, truthers say this all the time. Please, please, PLEASE for the love of GOD post one single hard piece of evidence that someone besides Al Qaeda was behind 9/11!! Truthers always make the claim and I have yet to meet one who can actually back up their claim.

Did I tell you to shut up? Nope. I asked you to put up, though. After all, you're asking people to believe your conspiracy theories and act upon them. Isn't it the least you can do to back up those theories with proof rather than paranoid delusions?

I asked you a very pointed question. Maybe you missed it. Let me post it again for you. I will bold it so maybe you won't miss it this time.

Don't YOU consider it important for a rebellion to be based on the truth and not the fantasies of a bunch of childish twits?

Simple question. Yes or no will do.

The one you're demanding of people. What. You don't think the proper course of action to take when one finds out the entire government is behind a conspiracy that killed 3000 people is open rebellion? Seems to me that would be the only course of action one could take. After all, the current administration would have to be covering for the last one and thus in on the conspiracy.

What course of action were you thinking of? Shaking your fist at them in rage? Peeing on their lawns? Stomping on their petunias?

 

Are you under the impression that the "ENTIRE" government was behind 9/11?

That "IS" crazy

 

The President, Congress, large parts of the CIA, FBI, NTSB, NIST, FAA, Air Force, National Guard, NORAD, NEADS, as well as many private sector people would have to be in on the conspiracy and on the subsequent coverup in order for it to have succeeded for over a decade. This is, of course, dependant on which of the numerous theories out there you believe in. None of the theories out there would have made it through the transition from Bush to Obama without a wider conspiracy than just the Bush administration.

So how about that evidence or answering the questions? Truthers like to run away and pick at little pieces of an entire thread to hide their own incompetence at responding to the thread.

 

Large Parts? No. It's compartmentalization. But even so. That's not the Entire Government.

Why do you waste your time asking to be convince of something you never will be? You won't be convinced of anything, no matter what you are shown, no matter who shows it to you. So, why the obsession?

 

I just want to demonstrate for everyone to see that you can't back your claims up. Excuses like "compartmentalization" MIGHT have allowed the attack to happen, but would quickly be exposed in the aftermath once people realized what their role in the attack was. But once again you use excuses to try and explain why you can't produce one solid piece of evidence and why you can't address the rest of the post. Once again you focus on a part that has already been clarified even though you don't address the response that directly addresses your initial complaint.

Think of it this way; you're not trying to convince me, but trying to convince others who are reading these posts. Likewise, I know I will never convince you of anything no matter how much evidence I present or how flawed I show your theories to be. Your mistake is that I am writing to convince you. I'm not. I am writing so that anyone who reads claims like yours has absolutely NO DOUBT WHATSOEVER that your claims are the deluded fantasies of a child and nothing more. The fact you don't even understand what it is you are asking people to do when you ask them to believe your crap proves beyond any doubt you are clueless as to what is really going on in the world and desperately need to blame all the bad things in life on someone like the government that you can then pretend to keep an eye on and shake your fist at. That is my opinon, but it is backed up by post after post from conspiracy theorists who cannot present evidence to back their claims up, can't even state in concrete terms what it is they believe, can't agree with their fellow conspiracy theorists what happpened, who did it, how they did it, or when they did it, and don't even understand the ultimate consequences of what they are asking people to believe based on nothing more than the opinions, lies and delusions of the conspiracy community.