My argument against pro lifers

MegadethFan said,

You don't want arguments or proof not really. You want lines…..lines to tear apart…so you can name call again. ITs your style.

I do not think your a caring and compassionate person…not at all.

You call Christians names…you call God names…..and you love it.

Science says life starts at conception…it is a separate human being. I value life…and today with all the information we have there is no excuse to not know about fetal development. Most pro-aborts I know say….Abortion is a tough decision. Well if the unborn is nothing….and its moral then what is so tough about it? Of course you are for even late term abortion…so in your book of tricks….killing is moral on every level.

I am not going to go into fetal development…would not matter to you. Not going to go into that…would not matter.

No not everyone…is like you…just a few. And you are disrespectful…and insensitive. You love to insult.

I am sick of you calling names. Not once have I let loose and called you names. I don't need to. One would read all your posts…put two and two together…with your name…..and well…need I say more. You have the gall to tell me I am mindless because I love the life in the unborn and want to save it. Buddy….I can only imagine the life off the computer you lead.

Yes you do. You bug me in private messaging….you say hurtful things about the life in the womb…you make references to even eating them. You are one sick……I won't even say it. If I didn't come here what would your enjoyment be in life? Hating…your favorite hobby.

No you didn't…you still made pot shots called me names…your a liar.

You gave me ultimatums. And there ya go…..your such a narcissist.

You are vile. You have a potty mouth, I find you disgusting.

Coming from one who says he is an atheist and has the Holy Spirit.

An argument based on sickness and immorality.

 

Yes, really I do. You havent given ANY of either.

No. If you give bs emotionalism I'll call it for what it is. If you give an actual argument I will respond with my own. Read through my posts and you'll see as much. Lifers that give arguments I respond to with my own. Lifers who give me mindless emotional rhetoric, will be pointed out for the clueless, groundless ignoramuses they are.

Why not?

Which Christians? I dont really "love" calling God names, but I dont mind.

1. I agree life of a human starts at conception, but....
2. Why should human life be valued for simply being human?
3. I dont find anything tough about killing a fetus, the reasons to which I have already explained, but can repeat if you so desire.

Notice how there was no name calling? Anyway....

I only insult (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s. Act like a dickhead and I'll treat you like one - that's my philosophy. You are right about one thing, I am often insensitive - deal with it.

What names are they?

No you just use mindless adjectives and misleading descriptions which I outline in the OP. In facts its almost like you copied them straight from it!

Correct - the lifer position is mindless, especially since you give no argument to be a lifer just emotional bs.

Ok.... so what?

hmmm, mus not have heard it the first time....
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Where did I call you names?

hahaha oh what's the matter, baby gonna cry? Please.

oooh I'm soooo scared. Funny how I'm just soooo wrong you can never, not once, prove it.

I never said I was an atheist. Quote me saying so. I'm apatheist, btw.

How so? Actually its quite healthy and moral. What's more its provable - something your position isnt.

 

This appears with all your posts….gosh your dense.

 

I see you couldn't answer my simple question. I think its the only thing I really need say to you until you respond.

Why should human life be valued for simply being human?

 

I doubt we will ever agree then on this issue. Why are you OK with devaluing your own life?

No, I think there is much more to the inherent value of human life than just holding an interest. Potential provides inherent value regardless of whether or not a conscious interest has been developed.

 

Because it is not my humanity that makes me valuable - it is my interests, specifically my interest in being alive, and the capacity to have such interests, that is valuable.

Why?

Why does potential provide value? Could you not attribute this potential as far back as a sperm cell?

I hope you can answer my questions, since I can clearly and willingly answer yours.

 

What's so bad about killing an innocent member of species of the homosapien when it does show an interest in being alive?

 

why the hell (*)(*)(*)(*) was the title changed????????????????????

 

Because you suck

 

What's wrong with changing an innocent title when it's shown no interest in remaining the same? Anybody?

 

Well, if you have an interest in being alive, and uphold it (which would be doing if you dont kill yourself) it is only logical to recognize another being's similar interest. As a result, in pursuing my own interest in being alive I ought to help the other being do the same. If I dont want to help the other being, this would imply I am instead trying to kill myself, in which case you wouldn't have to consider the dilemma - you would just end your own life before you would have to LOL

Can you answer my question now? I think its only fair you respond in kind. Answer the question I have you last and then I'll answer your next question.

 

Actually it sounds oike you guys are such pansies someone went and had a cry to the moderators who, being the spineless fools they are, changed it.

 

Censorship of any form is totally unjustifiable.

 

Prove it

 

How's just "being alive" amount to pursuing it - I think people who don't exercise or eat properly, or smoke, etc don't show an interest in being alive because the live in an unhealthy way which will kill them eventually - if just "being alive" is the criteria for displaying an interest in it, then it's no different with fetuses.

 

It's their website which they host and pay for, they can do with it what they want to (just like with a woman and her body). What makes you think you have an inherent right to say whatever you want via someone else's resources and dime - what a narcissistic little prick you are.

 

I can, but I realize that isnt a sincere question. You lifers are a pathetic lot that's for sure.

 

Because if you didnt want to be alive, you would kill yourself OR you would not have the mind to think of anything.

Wrong. They have to have an interest in being alive before they cna have an interest in smoking or being obese. Acting such that you will have a short life doesn't change the fact you want to be alive long enough to eat yourself to death.

Wrong because a fetus does not have the interest to be alive. It is alive, true, like an ant, a blood cell or a cockroach, but like all these things, it has no conscious desire to be alive as a sentient entity. I realize you guys are slow and a little retarded so it will take a while for you to understand, but I'll persist in explaining it for your sake.

Also, please tell me why I should value human life in and of itself.

 

Insects do show an interest in being alive - if they didn't they wouldn't hunt and gather food, that just shows how ignorant you are at just about everything.

 

Man you lifers are so slow to think things through. Let me put it to you like this, would you say an insect has a different mental capacity to humans?

 

Yes, a much different mental capacity to human fetuses.

 

Dont jump the gun. We'll take it slow so we can get to the crux of the issue. Please answer the question: Would you say an insect has a different mental capacity to humans? A simple yes or no will suffice. Dont worry I'm only pointing out distinctions before I draw conclusions from them, and I have many more distinctions to make before this is possible to do in a concise way.

 

You clearly and willingly answered yes, that you were OK with devaluing human life when responding to my previous question. For me, answering that question applied to devaluing human life in any regard, including your interests.

Are you not OK with devaluing your own life or human life in general? Perhaps you should clarify that you are OK with terminating a human life prior to that life developing interests because you think one’s interests are the only thing one has that is of value?

Already answered this in the following sentence in referencing potential.

I don’t know why I would have to explain this; however, I will attempt to do so if you answer yes to this question: Do you honestly think that there is no value in a human life’s potential?

It would be attributed to be part of the potential of the human life where the sperm cell came from. Once conception occurs, a new human life starts and therefore new potential is created which is separate from the potential of the human life that provided the sperm.

 

and your attempts to try and draw any correlation between an insect and a human will prove exactly what? Perhaps it will satisfy some game you are playing but it bears no fruit in this discussion

 

Well you should have made the question clearer then. If you mean, purely, humanity, that is being a member of the homo-sapien species, as a feature to respect in and of itself, my answer is a total no. I made it clear that this however does not have anything to do with the recognition and logical value we place on the capacity to have an interest.

No, because nit isnt important - what is important is having the capacity to have an interest.

A fetus does not have the capacity to have any interests, in its own existence or otherwise, that is why it has no right to life. I have made this perfectly clear repeatedly in this thread.

No, there is no value in potential.

But you have to admit, you can just as easily say that potential is inherent in a sperm cell, yes? Are you saying the sperm cell does not have the potential to be a human being?