NATO FILM: Forest Brothers – Fight for the Baltics

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  1. Ninian

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    Pretty much exactly that, yes. If he cut them slack during and after WWII and in prosecution of religion was surpassed by Khruschev does not means he was religious himself, or got fond of religion.

    He was many things - but stupid was not among them. At least for majority of his life. There are a theories that his britality, and especially his mood swings in post-war period were result of physical problems with brain - the ones that eneded up killing him - but his medical problems been kept secret during his lifetime.
     
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    There were several GPO versions, some documented, some not. There was no absolute call for genocide of certain groups, or "Russians." There is much controversy about it, explained in part here:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Generalplan_Ost
     
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    Definition of communist

    1. 1 : an adherent or advocate of communism

    2. 2 capitalized : communard

    3. 3a capitalized : a member of a Communist party or movementb often capitalized : an adherent or advocate of a Communist government, party, or movement

    4. 4 often capitalized : one held to engage in left-wing, subversive, or revolutionary activities
    5. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/communis

    communist
    (kɒmyənɪst
    Word forms: communists
    1. countable noun
    A communist is someone who believes in communism.
    Her family fled Czechoslovakia when the communists seized power in 1947.
    2. adjective
    Communist means relating to communism.
    ...the Communist Party.
    https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/communist

    Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot (the greatest among them) were all communists by the common definition in all cases:

    communism
    • n.
      A theoretical economic system characterized by the collective ownership of property and by the organization of labor for the common advantage of all members.
    • n.
      A system of government in which the state plans and controls the economy and a single, often authoritarian party holds power, claiming to make progress toward a higher social order in which all goods are equally shared by the people.
    • n.
      The Marxist-Leninist version of Communist doctrine that advocates the overthrow of capitalism by the revolution of the proletariat

    • from The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, 4th edition.

    • I don't like to use frivolous talking points to distract from the obvious.

     
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    A-a-all right, I will look in that tomorrow - 3 AM at me at the time. But I suspect the other "versions" may turn out to be earlier or alternative drafts of it - but I will look in, before judging.
     
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    It's a definition, not characteristic of politician who claims to be a communist. As I said - label not means a thing. Matters not name, but actions - and many of things done by Stalin or Pol Pot have zero to do with communism.
     
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    People owned nothing, no land, property, houses, they couldn't own a business since it was deemed to capitalistic, it was communism at its worst.
     
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    All eastern Slavs were targeted, Russians, ukranians, in particular, operation Barbarossa was basically annihilation of the Slavs.
     
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    He was a brutal thug, who basically killed millions, chemical imbalance in the head or not, he knew what he was doing. The way he died, he got away lucky, unlike millions of his victims.
     
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    You don't sa-ay.
     
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    Yeah, seems you're almost sugarcoating, but that's typical of most Russians, they've always held their butchers in high esteem.
     
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    Oh, give it up already. Should've figured by now I don't get baited by that trick.
     
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    Not trying to bait, just saying the truth! Btw what's it 3rd or 4th time you got banned, in 4 mos. I still wait for your evidence of no russian troops in Ukraine, think I'll see it?
     
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    You're clearly not doing it. Give up, stop wasting the keyboard.
     
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    Didn't think so, just another reason to debunk anything you post.
     
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    You can call them as you like, it does not change the fact that there was no communism in Soviet Russia.
    So you support the labor of kids in the factories? Bad of you. Your are against free education for kids? Bad of you.
     
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    The rubbish is what you say here. You live in your US like on the moon and have no idea about realities in Europe and Russia.
     
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    If you are not Nazi fan, then do not defend them. As for how do I know- there was plan Ost from Hitler, everything is written there and open to public. One can find it in Internet or you may go to Nuremberg and educate yourself there in the museum: https://museums.nuernberg.de/memorium-nuremberg-trials/
    You say you have been to Germany, strange that you have not visited Nuremberg.
     
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    Blah-blah-blah-blah.
     
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    Lol, you're outta gas, face it.
     
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    The Ukrainians and Russian civilians the Germans came across early in the operation were for the most part, pretty friendly in the central and southern sectors. However, they became less civil after 1942 as partisan activity increased.
     
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    Any intelligent person would call the massive collective farm program expanded by Stalin as true "communism" If you don't believe these collectives existed, then you need to read different sources.

    I'm all for capitalism, with as few restrictions as possible.
     
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    I was in Europe for 2 years while the Commies were right across the border.

    I think you must live in a cave in the Urals, and need to come out into the light.
     
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    The ukranians were at the beginning, and the Germans were "somewhat friendly", (Wehrmacht)until Einsatzkommando like Ohlendorf, dirlewanger, Jeckeln, wachter t ook control.
     
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    So for you collective farm already means Communism or socialism? :grin: Then you have a primitive idea about communism.
     
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    So since you have not been in USSR how can you judge about the reality there? By the way people who live behind Urals in the villages have the best undestanding what kind of life is in Russia. You should read less propagandon news about Russia to have a clear brain :-D
     

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