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  1. AFM

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    How is it possible to do effective critical thinking with incomplete information?
     
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    To a degree
    Medical science talks in two different levels - what WebMD uses and what I posted. The more accurate description is in what I posted and I can supply example after example from research and other texts to back up my assertion.
     
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    Nevertheless the most sever cases of covid result in the lungs filling with fluid as the body responds to the inflammation of the lung tissues. Sadly I am assuming that in most cases like this the result is fatal.
     
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    This is why to be absolutely accurate you do not just follow “WebMD” or “Dr Google”.

    https://libraryguides.griffith.edu.au/c.php?g=28684&p=176875

    Of all the sites Cochrane is the easiest to access if you don’t have membership of a professional library

    https://libguides.csu.edu.au/ebp/where_to_search

    Cochrane https://www.cochranelibrary.com/

    But readable EBP (Evidence Based Practice) possibly https://learn.uptodate.com/ind_upto...MI-_iglr78hAMVi6hmAh0V1QqPEAAYASAAEgLTrPD_BwE

    But you have to subscribe - although you can reach some subjects on there
     
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    No, it does not “fill the lungs with fluid”

    Grrrrrrrrrrr!

    If you are talking treatment accuracy is essential!
     
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    I will go with WebMD. They provide useful ;and accurate information.
     
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    The body produces fluid which fills the lungs in response to the inflammation which prevents the lungs from absorbing O2 from each breath.

    Again from WebMD:

     
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    Likewise I thank you for your example of hypocrisy as it comes to critically thinking and choosing the government over the people.
     
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    Mate - not even close!

    What you have been posting is the medical equivalent of this thread http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/the-sun.616871/

    And I am being a nice person by not laughing my arse off
     
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    Ye Gods but this makes me cross and always has! “Fluid in the lungs” is so freaking inaccurate! This time I am not going to provide answers but challenge you to be more accurate.

    Where in the lungs is this “fluid”?

    1. Pleural space?
    2. Bronchioles?
    3. Epithelial cells of the airways?
    4. Alveoli?
    5. Alveolar/capillary membrane?
    Other? Hint
    upload_2024-3-18_10-16-59.png
     
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    Which is only one hundredth of the information required to truly understand the pathophysiology
     
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    It is blocking air from reaching the lung tissue interfaces where O2 is transferred from the air to the blood.
     
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    Who cares? The important point is that the Covid virus cases inflammation in the lungs resulting in reduced transfer of O2 to the blood. Death is by suffocation.
     
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    Are you a doctor? What makes your point worth anything over these actual doctors that were silenced?
     
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    Thee are two cases that will be heard by the Supreme Court concerning government forcing social media companies to remove posts that the government considered mis information. This is NOT how free speech works. This is how the Chinese Communist Party works.



    https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-go...preme Court is,can reaffirm this emphatically.
     
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    Wrong!
    It causes inflammation at the alveolar capillary membrane following micro thrombosis (small clots) in the capillaries (blood supply). My previous post made that clear
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/ar... ARDS in,oedema and – over time – progressive
     
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    What “actual Doctors”? The “Demon Sperm” believers?? The ones that think Lizrd eople are running the government?
    https://slate.com/news-and-politics...l-demon-sperm-capitol-rioter-connections.html

    Yep! Sure do know more than them. I CERTAINLY have a better knowledge base and understanding than the number one “influencer” Joseph Mercola who is an Osteopath - something I have very little regard for
     
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    So what? That's not a solution for schools.
     
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    NO!! ARDS - Adult Respiratory Distress Syndrome something we have known about and battled since the Viet nam war where we called it “Da Nang Lung”. Covid fooled us because the effects were radiologically very similar to ARDS but the treatment was not.
    The essential issue revolves around the Alveolar Capillary Membrane. OMG! This is like trying to explain how the Sun works to our board member scared that the Sun will run out of “fuel” in the next couple of years! You have some concepts but only some.
     
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    All I need is a fundamental understanding of how inflammation of the lung tissues and accumulation of fluid is the way covid kills.
     
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    Not if you are recommending treatment!!!
     
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    You're correct. Everything you've said is correct.
     
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    I am recommending nothing. I am reporting on treatment alternatives available to trained health care professionals.
     
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    I can’t disagree with that. Thanks. :)
     

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