Never can Iran have a Nuclear Weapon

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  1. Bush Lawyer

    Bush Lawyer Well-Known Member

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    I am lucky enough not to have. You?
     
  2. Bush Lawyer

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    I am by saying it as it is. You stick your nose where it has no right to be, and then you complain when someone takes a swipe at it.
     
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    So then your post wasn't an argument against making sure that terrorism doesn't foster?
     
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    And?
    How about to stoip provoking Iranians?
    The US ended the Iran Deal with lies and bullcrap reasons, completed by ignorance and arrogance!
    And it is you who want to teach the world what is good and what is bad ... not the Iranians!
     
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    On June 17th, Iranian member of Parliament Ghasem Mirza Neko said that the "export of revolution" and "waging war against the world" were the reasons for the hardships faced by the Iranian
    people. "When you live in a cave, when you want to fight the whole world and export the revolution to everywhere you have to accept hardships, not just for 14 years, but for much longer than that."
    So I guess Iran DOES want t teach the world what is good and what is bad. Iran sees its role in the World as forcing its oppressive, fundamentalist, theocacy on the rest of us.
     
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    I think the sanctions are hurting the irans more than they admit
     
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    I will not deny this ... but this makes your sanctions not legal and change the fact that you have no right to implement such sanctions on others! This right has only the UN Security Council ... and that only the Security Council has was and is your own will to be! Bad luck I will say ...
     
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    The world implimented crippling sanctions on South Africa till apartied ended
     
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    So scrap all intelligence agencies then?
     
  11. Bush Lawyer

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    No.
     
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    Correct ... the world = the UN Security Council has decided and authorized it ... not the USA alone as now!
     
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    So what would be the point of intelligence agencies in your world?
     
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    So ... someone else aside the USA has the balls of wanting to teach and decide for the rest of the world what is good and bad?

    Always interesting that such hardcore people of minor interest are taken so serious if blabbering nonsense and being opponent ... but when same minor important US politicians make same sort of BS blabbering, then it is ignored.
     
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    Anyone who supports religious fanatic nations having the same consideration along these lines is fine for you or any private citizen. But, being in a position of power and providing or assisting nations like Iran, or even SA in having nuclear weapons is criminal.

    Israel on the other hand, is a free state and a democracy and is about as secular as a nation can be. IMO, they not only deserve our help and support to defend themselves in ANYWAY, but also as a free nation, deserve our cooperative criticism in governmental issues, no different then Canada, or UK or Germany or France. That goes along with any aid we provide to friendly like minded secular free nations.
     
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    Not even the Iranians I know support the Iranian government. Guess you know better than them.
     
  17. Bush Lawyer

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    You do know that if the USA withdrew its financial support for Israel that 'artificial Nation' would be bankrupt? The UN made a huge mistake plonking it wher they did. Tasmania is available I am sure. No hostile neighbours, a boost to the economy.....all great.
     
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    Thst is the shame of the UN for doing nothing now, not trump for seeking a peaceful way to prevent iran from going nuclear
     
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    You don't know what the point would be @Bush Lawyer ?
     
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    The us hasn't gone to total war since the Pacific theater of ww2.
     
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    Ehm ... for what was again the Iran Deal which Trump throw into garbage please? Sorry ... this deal worked and Iran sticked on it for 100% ... but it was your Donald Trump who was not pleased with it, because he wanted to disgrave Iran about missile program, ME politics and influence and in general too to capitulate to the US will ...

    So please Mac-7 ... don't reason the current situation that it is to prevent Iran fro getting nuclear weapons... thats simply bullshit!
     
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    Under the obama deal iran can go fully nuclear armed in 10 years

    That may seem like an eternity to liberals in America and Germany but its not
     
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    And that is the total lie, backed by not a single fact! ... More as that, a mountain of facts refute this BS claim!

    All necessary equipment had been under constant and comprehensive control of the IAEA. And even the few military installations where the IAEA had no direct access ... which was one of Trump's BS arguments ... even those with technical equipment in constant surveillance. As soon as something radioactive emerges, which does not belong there or is somehow suspicious, that is noticeable!

    Sorry .. Iran was naked here in terms of monitoring its nuclear weapons capabilities.

    Conversely, why don't you Americans want exactly the same thing from Israel? You shrug your vshoulders that they are violating the very same things you demand from Iran!
     
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    trust.jpg

    Even homer simpson knows how to get around a wiretap
     
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    Shouldn't there be an international fund to finance every country having nuclear weapons? That would soon make the world an even playing field.

    If the USA can't be trusted, trust everybody and anybody else's country, including Ebola Congo.

    They're all going to have nuclear weapons eventually.
     
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