New French Study on 80 Patients Successfully Treated with Hydroxychloroquine/Azithromycin

https://techstartups.com/2020/03/27...Y2GYUdtdX36090uFpgTfUK29RcsHKsLEo9AwZCINdP8ps

Another French positive study on the use of hydroxychloroquine/azithromycin, this time on 80 patients. You can read it for yourself, but almost all treated were cured of Coronavirus. Thoughts?

 

Uh oh, gonna be a lot of angry lefties on this forum after reading this.

 

Right wing Trump @$$ kissing. Chloroquine kills, as proven by the couple in Arizona.

/S

Yeh, I wrote a couple posts on the science behind this drug and why I thought it will work last week. We shall see, but it looks like we have a winner in this treatment protocol.

 

That was the only test the libs put their faith in.

 

and a couple governors looking for jobs.

 

The current (estimated) World Population is 7.8 Billion People.

We have 80 people in France in a study.

In the overall scheme, it seems like a rather minuscule "sample" for people to be doing cartwheels over.

That said, I would favor any SAFE treatment that can alleviate symptoms (in a massive way).

This may help SOME people, but it is far from any sort of "magic bullet".

 

When you get sick, don't take the drugs.
Problem solved

 

Curing almost all 80 patients is indeed a magic bullet. It could be a game changer if it dramatically reduces the mortality rate. Another good thing which I just heard Gov. Cuomo suggest is have widespread home testing, if you don't have the virus go to work. Those two things could make a big difference in restarting the economy.

 

This is one of several studies.
We do not have 7.8 billion people with coronavirus.
If you're still skeptical, be sure to instruct the medical staff not to use it on you if you find yourself infected.

 

I am in favor of anything that can "restart the economy".

But, I am against any sort of artificial deadline (like Easter) that could open the economy too early and make the Virus Spread worse.

 

What evidence do you have that viral spread is being curtailed in any significant mannner?

 

Easter was hopeful speculation, not a hard deadline.

 

Let's say the death rate of hospitalized patients is 25%, without taking this drug. That means, out of 80 patients, 60 would have survived, even without the drug. Now, the control would be the following: Two groups of patients, one received the drug, the other one doesn't. Then, you compare the death rates and see if there is a significant difference. Then, do it with a much larger pool. Without those controls, this evidence could be just coincidental.

Note, I want this to be true. However, we need more evidence before giving people false hope.

 

If the death rate is normally 25% of hospitalized patients and only 1 of 80 died who took the drug, that's good enough for me. Anyone want to calculate the chances that 1 of 80 was a coincidence?

 

There ya go with logic. If you have an antipathy to real, doctor prescribed malaria pharmaceuticals given in conjunction with antibiotics, just don't take them. Just don't take them. Just don't.

It's so easy to fall down dyin' and hold fast to your convictions.

 

That is the insanity of TDS patients, they'd rather die than admit Trump might have been right. It's like the Darwin Awards. Of course, come crunch time, I bet they'd take the drug.

 

Yeah, death has no bias. Everybody qualifies.

 

How quickly did they get off of ventilators to give to more ill patients?

 

That’s why it’s important to look at more than mortality. In the French study viral load (and subsequent shedding) was reduced dramatically compared to averages of of those not receiving this treatment in other studies.

In China for instance, the median time period for the virus to not be detectable by PCR test was 20 days from onset. I believe the interquartile range was something like 16-23 days without looking it up again. The entire range for shedding duration was 8-37 days. In this French trial, by day 5 after treatment over 97% of patients had undetectable levels of virus using PCR.

So yes, ventilators can be freed up, isolation wards have much faster turnover, and especially when administered early, survival rates increase and lung damage will decrease on average.

At this point, I don’t see how anyone can deny this treatment is effective.

We know the drugs can be used safely. We know the underlying science of why this works. It’s effective in vitro. It’s being demonstrated daily it’s effective in real world trials. Unless we are being lied to by those conducting these studies, this is a no brainer if life and quality of life is a priority. I’ll just leave the political angle at that.

 

And the reduced shedding period cuts down on virus transmission.

 

The original French Study had controls just like you described do you have any evidence this study did not?

 

IOW, Trump was right about hydroxychloroquine.

 

Medical doctors already think it works.
Why shouldn't the rest of us?

 

we should do long term studies, like til after November. Then "open up" the economy.