Newsmax Rises On Wave Of Resentment Toward Media — Especially Fox News

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  1. CCitizen

    CCitizen Well-Known Member

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    And most Modern "Liberals" who try to censor Free Speech are not Liberal. They are Totalitarians.
     
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    I am not quite sure you understand what censorship is. I agree to a point that it goes too far, but not one person has had their right to free speech or their right to their own forum taken from them. So i reject this overly general, oversimplified use of the word "censorship". And also, your whataboutism is an effort to change the subject, not to discuss it.
     
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    But there’s always censorship gatekeepers known as so called fact checkers like Media Bias Fact Check and other such scum of the earth to rate the newer sites as ropaganda or questionable in the hopes of scaring people off of such diverse places. They don’t get it that such labeling is a badge of honor that makes them all the more attractive to the rest of us.
     
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    Thank goodness.for the fact checkers. While some weirdos are too far gone, they were not always that way. And the fact checkers catch people early on their journey to Crazytown and help them to view the white wing garbage with skepticism.
     
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    Nice strawman, but incorrect.

    Fact checkers, like the one you mentioned, source their claims and explain their reasoning. They provide a starting point for researching unknown sources. If you consider it a badge of honor to consume conspiracy theories, that is your right. I think it's a rather bizarre outlook on life, but it's a free country.
     
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    They openly admit that their ratings are for entertainment purposes and that they aren’t legally responsible for how people use their ridiculous ratings. They also admit to using no scientific method for their rankings. Lastly they don’t just rate unknown sites. They put ridiculous ratings on well established and well known mainstream evangelical Christian and conservative site sources. MBFC has no redeeming value.
     
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    I'm a moderate Independent, but I still don't want my news censored by extremist leftwing agenda pushers and spin doctors.

    Liberals are walking a slippery slope with censorship, and disguising their biases as "fact checking", because one day the shoe could be on the other foot, and they will only have themselves to blame for starting us down this path in the first place.
     
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    I agree but when you say "right wing entertainment media" would it also be fair to say "left wing partisan propaganda media"?
     
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    Newsmax sets the record straight against a highly partisan media that represents itself as objective. There, that is thread related.
     
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    As many conservatives do, you are conflating the ability to express the "Freedom and Diversity of Ideas" with the freedom to publish demonstrable lies under the guise of reporting the news.
     
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    What scientific method do you use to count lies? The fingers-and-toes method or line-and-strike?

    That you don't like their ratings is obvious. That your mind is closed to anything you don't like is also obvious.
     
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    And, as many liberals do, you are conflating "facts you don't like" with "lies".

    And having a leftwing so-called "fact checker" claim something is a "lie" along with a bunch of mumbo jumbo, hemming and hawing, and "maybe" and "sort of" and "not really" and "but if" and "well...." does not make an unpleasant fact become a lie, so no point anyone wasting their time parroting that lame bs either.
     
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    Thread related, yes. Hilariously false and hopefully a joke: also yes.
     
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    In other words, you didn't read it.
     
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    Kenyan birth certificate = lie
    Tara Reade = lie
    Hunter's billions = lie
    Attempted extortion of Ukrainian leader = lie
    Obamagate = lie
    Lock her up = lie
    Voter fraud = lie

    It's clear to everyone but those who can't see.
     
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    You have illustrated the existential problem of our time. The refusal to accept the existence of objective truth.

    Kellyanne famously suggested there is an "alternative" truth (for Trumpleton's) to the one being reported in the MSM. There isn't. There is nuance, there are truths that are expressed incompletely, but in the end there is only one truth. Biden won the election. Since there is no credible evidence to the contrary that is the one truth. When Trump questions the election results, and is flagged for it, it isn't "a bunch of mumbo jumbo, hemming and hawing, and "maybe" and "sort of" and "not really" and "but if" and "well," it is pointing out a lie. Not because of the ideological bent of the fact checker. Because sometimes a lie is just a lie. Objective truth, ballots having been counted, tells us so.

    Any time you want to see who has the objective truth on their side the vast preponderance of the time, I'm right here.
     
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    Hopefully Freedom will prevail.

    Hopefully The Enemy will not be able to censor all of Internet and TV.

    Only time will tell.
     
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    Likewise you are illustrating an "existential problem of our time", which is the refusal to accept that your version of "truth" isnt necessarily true just because you want it to be true, even if your leftwing sources swear it is so.

    Just because a media outlet tells you what you want to hear, and confirms your biases, does not mean it is necessarily reporting the truth. Likewise, just because a news outlet reports things you do not want to hear, or which challenge your preconceived notions, does not mean it is necessarily reporting lies. That's the problem with hyper partisans today, and the partisan media, people can (and will) find media sources which will only tell them what they want to hear, but it doesn't mean it's right, and it doesn't mean the other side is lying.

    ROFL, ok, that was funny. But I have a mirror which is vastly more accurate!


    Hopefully! And yes, only time will tell.
     
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    Any time you want to see who has the objective truth on their side the vast preponderance of the time, I'm right here.

    Here's a test. Who won the presidential election?
     
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    Let's find out if that is so.
     
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    Disagreements with the secular progressive left is not lying except to MBFC and those who use it for content control purposes.
     
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    Newsmax is excellent and it an option to going to foreign sources for news rather than corporate propaganda.
     
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    Facts aren't open for debate. They really don't care about your feelings. Any publication that asserts the election was stolen is lying, and on down the list. Easy stuff.
     
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    Well that is a cute little game you have rigged up to insulate yourself: 'whenever "librruhls" call out a lie, it is actually they who are lying. And anyone who calls out the white wing lies is obviously a librruhl.' This is a personal coping mechanism used to help yourself maintain positions undaunted by facts and reason.
     
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    Until Trump abandons contesting the election the election is not settled. That’s a fact.
     

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