NRA Commentary Admits The Odds Of Needing A Gun To Defend Yourself Are Infinitesimal

The laws of self defence are reasonably uniform across most of Europe and Oceania. You are only allowed to use "reasonable" force to defend yourself

Ergo

If you are a small petite woman you would be allowed to use a baseball bat against a large aggressive man - however the opposite is not true the man using a baseball bat would be seen as using unreasonable force since he could subdue her otherwise

 

Really?
Accidental deaths PER GUN?

 

Ah.
So not only is Gaius wrong about no guns Denmark, he is wrong about the disparity of force allowable in self-defense.

 

So you vs. Ronda Rousey is a fair fight?

 

You mentioned "rates".
For there to be a "rate" you need two numbers to compare.
You argue that more guns = higher rate, so number of incidents : number of guns is the relevant standard.

So, I ask again:
1 gun out of every 595,000 in the US is involved in an accidental death.
What % of guns are involved in accidental deaths in those "other similar countries"?

 

Why not? The most common reasons for violence here is pub brawls - UK too since they reduced violent crime by closing night clubs earlier. Adding guns into the mix simply escalates that violence

 

There are not that many 'similar' countries since many may have equivalent numbers of firearms but also have other laws such as regulations surrounding securement of firearms

It is also affected by how your statistics are kept - which I gather is poorly - NYT recently ran an article proving that accidental firearm related deaths in children are vastly underreported

 

You do understand that our firearms freedoms exist for more extensive reasons than home defense, don't you?

 

Would she attack me??

Probably not and it depends - all of this is taken into account at the court hearing. But if it is a simple fight then you will both be charged with assault and it is worked out in court who hit who.

http://www.findlaw.com.au/articles/5022/self-defence-law-in-australia.aspx

 

So, what does that do to your claim, the one that specifically mentions "other similar countries"

My number came from the Center for Disease Control, part of the US federal government,
If you have a credible source that has a credible claim to a different number, I'm all ears.

All I see right now, however, is you failing to meet the challenge necessary to support your position.

1 gun out of every 595,000 in the US is involved in an accidental death.
What % of guns are involved in accidental deaths in those "other similar countries"?

 

Yeah and most of them are nutty too

 

Not in most areas, and guns aren't the only option for home defense anyway.

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I understand they were originally intended to help maintain a regulated militia, but of course the modern military has since replaced that. The situation today is far from ideal.

 

Linky???

And you are utilising a subset to try to prove a whole

Does the NRA run classes in this because this is the second time in two days I have had this rubbish attempted

Firstly define 'accidental injury' and define it so we are SURE that none of the tens of thousands of so called suicides are included

Secondly you are counting guns - not gun owners. Now given that there are multiple guns in the hands of single owners that skews that statistic more than a little

Thirdly - LINK TO SOURCE

http://smartgunlaws.org/gun-deaths-and-injuries-statistics/

 

Since you understand that guns are intended to maintain a regulated militia, how is it that as a member of the National Guard, I was only allowed to carry a gun on base during a training class on one day each year? "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed". Were my 2A rights violated as a person in the militia? Should I sue the government, or is your whole assumption that the right belongs to the militia members wrong?

 

If crime isn't so bad, why do we then need more gun control?

 

It's much easier for you to just say "I don't know".

 

http://wonder.cdc.gov/cmf-icd10.html
You may have to search
2013
Unintentional
Firearms
505 total.accidental deaths.

Because you are talking about "more guns" not "more gun owners".

I ask again:
1 gun out of every 595,000 in the US is involved in an accidental death.
What % of guns are involved in accidental deaths in those "other similar countries"?

 

First... I was looking at accident rates, not fatal accident rates

And most people look at rates at which people have suffer injury
This actually the very first time i have seen anyone present a rate on guns

 

What a load. Snakebite hurts more people than guns do where I live.

 

That is why i favor regulations to prevent snakes from getting guns

 

Pretty much a liberal statement at its best.

 

That's racist

 

Hopefully this is not a conservative statement at its best

 

Hopefully this is not a liberal statement at its best. Sadly, it is so.

 

Is this a tit or a tat?