NRA Furious Over Gun Shop Sales Tracking by credit card companies

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  1. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    Thus, according to you, every business owner that decides to not sell something is imposing his views on other people.
    :lol:
    Here's an idea:
    Rather than trying to mind his business, open a pharmacy next to his, sell the abortion bill, and mind your business.
     
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    There is Dick's Sporting goods that won't sell guns, should they have to?
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    yeah that could be true-most anti gunners who push laws pretend to care about innocent life and it is all about harassing people who don't support their leftwing agenda and many people who push abortion bans don't care about innocent babies but attack people who have a mindset that the anti abortionists find disturbing. Examples--I saw an anti abortion activist claim that "adulterous women" need to be purified of their sins by the pain of childbirth. I also had a very good friend who was a non-observant Jew-but a hard core right wing activist who said that pushing anti abortion legislation kept the feminists "off balance"
     
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    Restricting others Constitutional rights is outside the limits of the law. You can't dictate to people that they can't spend their own money legally. Otherwise they might say you can't buy anything made in China or Rhode Island. It is a treasonous backdoor attempt at tyranny.
     
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    Which is absolutely not happening here.

    Why are you making stuff up ?
     
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    Nope.
     
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    I can see how you might have been conflicted.
     
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    Anti-abortion types who say they want states to decide aren't prepared to condemn the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act. That's hypocrisy. Likewise, gun grabbers who say they just want to ban "assault" or "assault-style" weapons—in fact, semi-automatic weapons—would ban most guns if they had the chance. Also hypocrisy.
    "Off balance" like what happens if you try to take down a hornet's nest in the middle of the day. Most women will never put up with government telling them they have to be pregnant.
     
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    Lets get back to blatantly unconstitutional infringements on the second and tenth amendments. Many women oppose abortion btw-I know, I was a guard at a PP Clinic. we had as many or more women picketing as men. And the ones most likely to scream "WHORE" at a girl going into the clinic was a female
     
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    And yet, under Roe, 43 states did exactly that.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    It appears that the efforts to deliver tyranny have been successful.

    When tyranny is abroad, submission is a crime.
     
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    Private companies can do as they please. If you don't like it, then don't use their services.

    The choice is yours, so all the talk about "tyranny" is pure ignorance, and shows people don't understand the meaning of the words they toss around.

    Don't want to use credit card? Use cash. Use money order. Whatever makes you happy.

    The GOVERNMENT can't restrict it, but private corporations are not required to help you buy guns.
     
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  13. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    The mention of tyranny is too true for your tastes. :lol:
     
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    Or kill babies.
     
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    They can do what the law permits them to do. In this case they consider tracking gun purchases, and since there is no law against it, they can do that. If you don't want then to do that, then you can pay in cash, or money order.

    Just FYI, they have categorized purchases by using "merchant codes" for decades, and gun purchases have been categorized as "miscellaneous retail" or "sporting goods" stores. So, now they are adding a code for gun stores, and people a screaming because NRA is screaming.
     
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    This is what I responded to: "The GOVERNMENT can't restrict it, but private corporations are not required to help you buy guns."
    Now it's a true statement I wouldn't argue against but it holds true in case of making/selling anti birth devices and products. As to the NRA, while they may back some legislation that many find radical they still provide a speed bump for new restrictions that may be proposed so anyone who likes shooting should work with them a bit. I have a number of guns, all tame and I have no doubt all are on one list or another. I am not a member and never have been.
     
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    Like condoms? As long as they are legal, they will be manufactured and sold.
     
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    But a retailer can't be forced to stock and sell them.
     
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    No, and as it is you can't buy them at every store, because they choose to not carry them. What's your point?
     
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    If you go to my first reply and stop there I think both our points are the same. My responses was still conditioned by the discussion about the pharmacist that won't sell abortion pills. I don't know how we got to guns but here we are.
     
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    If I read Revelation(Bible)correctly. If the world doesn't repent, there will come a time when no one will be able to buy or sell without the mark of the beast. And everyone who receives the mark will incur Gods wrath or not be spared the coming afflictions on the earth. So it seems to me that our energies in that circumstance would be better spent making ends meet, and leave vengeance to God as it will already be on its way.
     
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    It is politically driven discrimination, and an invasion of privacy. With the end goal being the smothering of the second amendment. Yes there are workarounds as you stated. But Americans shouldn't have to sneak around in liberty as if they are doing something wrong.
     
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    Looking forward to the reactions from liberals when all the credit card companies start tracking their abortion payments.
     
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    Credit cards have been around for a long time now, and all that time they have collected "merchant codes" and you have agreed to the terms. It is not discrimination, nor invasion of privacy. No one has to use them, - people CHOOSE to use them.

    They probably do that already. Why should the liberals care about it?
     
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    You can, when I said I wasn't?

    My job as a teacher was to work with parents on as much of their agenda for their son or daughter as possible. But my job is also to teach my subject. American history cannot be understood without mentioning religion and what people believe. I'm going to look at how religion made a difference.

    If a parent objected to their son or daughter seeing a video on the Holocaust, I gave them a chance to have their say by either keeping the kid home, going to another class—something that wouldn't embarrass the kid as having been restricted by their parent. I'm not going to stop showing the video, Likewise, I'm not going to stop discussing systemic racism because some parent thinks systematic racism is a CRT idea. It isn't.

    Do I object to having to deal with parents who only care about their ideology? Yeah. They're wasting everyone's time.
     

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