Obama has to call in the sleaziest man to ever serve as President.

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  1. Pardy

    Pardy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not only is Bill Clinton the coolest prez ever, but he was the most fiscally responsible. He is the only post-war president to reduce the debt.
     
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    I thought Nixon was dead?
     
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    The DNC would honor Fidel Castro if they could. Bill Clinton is an accused RAPIST. Junita Broderick during an interview on ABC told, the story of her being raped and beaten by your wonderful Bill Clinton. Cigar Billy twice refused to capture Bin-laden when offered to him. Clinton allowed the 9/11 COMMANDER N CHIEF to give us 9/11 2001. Billy had more important things and young girls too DOO. The man was a degenerate SLOB!!!!
     
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    fox news anyone???
     
  5. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Sexually harassing and sexually molesting women you have power over is now the cool thing to do?

    ROFL Gingrich and Kasich forced him to do, he is the only modern day President to request more spending than Congress authorized, his tax rate increase slowed the revenue increase he inherited and he opposed welfare reform which saved us tons of money and created more taxpayers.

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    Me>> Quote Originally Posted by Bluesguy View Post
    And who did Gingrich sexually molest? Who did he deny a promotion and raise in order to give the job to his mistress? Who did he threaten their job if they told of his abhorrent behavior? When did he commit perjury and obstruction of justice in a federal court?

    An answer anyone?
     
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    He is, Clinton is still alive though and remains the sleazy man to ever serve as President yet the Democrats still worship him.
     
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    Oh sleazy as in morals....

    I thought you meant sleazy in terms of, you know, being accountable, honesty, integrity, the things most people honor...

    And in that regard it would be Richard Nixon being called upon, followed by Gerald 'the great pardon' Ford, followed by Grover Cleveland and US Grant.

    There is a long list before you get top Clinton, who did indeed seduce a young woman in the Oral Office and lie about it......under oath.

    But in the scheme of things compared to ordering people killed [considered by Nixon and alleged to have been done by Grant], lying under oath is nothing...at least not for a sitting US president.
     
  8. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yeah, you like the way he treats women and subordinate workers? Like the way he committed perjury and obstruction of justice in a federal court and federal grand jury to try and hide his treatment of those women and how he used his elected power to violate the trust of the people?

    BTW he once told my grandmother there were two men whom he ever feared in his life, his step father and my grandfather. I lived in LA and travel AR extensively during his terms in office there so I know the man quite well.
     
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    And in the execution of the office he was elected to and the public trust.

    OH those too.

    And whom did Nixon sexually molest and sexually harass and use his power to gain sexual favor with? When did he lie under oath to hide his sleazebag behavior with subordinate government workers? When did he make a fool of his wife, if we are to believe she was totally oblivious about his sexual behaviors which she wasn't, on national TV as he lied about those behaviors?
     
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    The consensual act between Bill, Monica and the Cigar is not my business.
     
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    When it is between a President and a subordinate federal employee on government time it is. When it becomes part of a federal lawsuit it is. When it has to do with a President lying under oath in a federal court and a federal grand jury it is. And of course she was only one of many with a good deal of them NOT being consensual at all, they were sexual molestations.
     
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    Ah, first there was no "molesting" by the sexually addicted pervert Clinton, it as consenting and there was not one thing illegal about it.

    That was the distinction I was drawing, that in declaring Clinton the "Sleaziest" it can only be done so on a "morals" argument and not a legal one.....

    and drawing the distinction that numerous presidents have broken civil law and the constitution more so than the guy you identify as "sleaziest."

    I am sorry that you took what was intended as a comic supporting argument as an attack that had to be defended.

    Sorry for the hassle, I will refrain from commenting on your stuff in the future..
     
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    Ahh yes there was, Katherine Wiley while in the Oval and his previous molestations of women Paula Jones in particular.

    When the legal involves the moral they go hand in hand. For instance Clinton put Lewinski in jeopardy and a term in a federal prison in order to try and save his own political arse. And he plotted with Blumenthal that if she did not go along with then he would publicly smear her and make her out to be a stalker and a crazy woman. Yea sleazebag even when it comes to his legal problems.

    And do you really know what the Flowers scandal was all about?

    This has nothing to do with their policies, which we could have a whole nother thread on that, this is about the man himself.

    Can you highlight the "comic" parts

     
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    Okay - you're right. They suck donkey dicks; all three of them.
     
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    Not what I said at all, Clinton is singularly the worst man to ever hold the office and should have been sent home packing never to be heard from again, instead the left puts him on a pedestal and worships him, amazing.
     
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    LOL.....like I said- Nixon is dead, and Nixon is without a doubt the sleaziest President we have ever had.
     
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    Indeed, Watergate and his supposition that he could basically override the constitution. While Obama/Bush may have given lipspeak to the idea of authoritarianism, Nixon was the one who came the closest to it and had we not been diligent, perhaps he would've established himself as such.
     
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    Who did Clinton sexually molest?
     
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    I know you didn't say that. I did though.

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    Nice to see you btw, ol' friend!
     
  20. Bluesguy

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    Actually he was a pretty straight laced Quaker, not much sleaze in his life compared to Clinton and his treatment of women.

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    Paul Jones, Kathleen Willey to name two.
     
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    Yes that's malfeasance perhaps but not sleaze, sleaze is sexually molesting employees, denying them their promotions in order to give the job to someone else for sexual favors. Sleaze is putting a young intern in jeopardy of a term in a federal prison in order to try and save your political arse while at the same time plotting to smear her if she refused to go along with your perjury plan.

    How so, you mean like trying to use the IRS against one political opponent?

    That's not sleaze which is what we are talking about with Clinton, why does the left so worship a man who so sleazily mistreated women over whom he had power?
     
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    Excuse me, I must correct your English ,"IS a degenerate SLOB!!!" ,I mean no criticism.lol!
     
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    There is nothing wrong with it other than the fact he was married. People have sex with subordinates and in offices. It's common.

    I haven't seen any proof that Bill Clinton lied to a federal grand jury.

    If one's definition of "sex" is intercourse, then I believe Bill. I don't think that they had intercourse. In other words, the creative use of the cigar was all that was needed.

    I don't think that the Oval Office should be used for sex of any kind. It's not just any office. But, it's not the end of the world and truly not a big deal. Obviously, he shouldn't have cheated on his wife. I think that's the most important issue there, and that's a private issue between him and his wife.
     
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    "Subordinate federal employee"?

    You make it sound as if she was shackled in a dungeon as a sex slave.

    Many people have has sex with their bosses and never felt used or abused. You're painting a dishonest picture.

    And it's not really very sensual if they don't molest each other. I hope they molested each other from head to toe. Otherwise, why bother?

    Again, using words like "subordinate", "molest" is desperate reaching. The only harm done to Clinton was being disbarred, which didn't affect him at all. Now, as one of the world's leading humanitarians, he's very well-respected.

    I'm not one to high-five somebody for having sex, but I don't think that he did anything wrong other than cheat on his wife.

    By the way, I could play your game and ask you to prove your claim that Bill Clinton lied under oath... which you can't.
     
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    Nixon's own tapes have shown him to be a foul-mouthed, hateful, corrupt bigot.

    How many straight-laced people do you know who can come up with $1 million in bribe money in one day?
     

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