Obamacare: 68,000 signups in the first week in CA and NY

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  1. DonGlock26

    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    We could try tort reform to lower medical costs. The lawyers in Washington DC never seem to talk about that.
     
  2. TomFitz

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    You do realize that Hawaii has had single payer state wide health insurance for years now?
     
  3. Ctrl

    Ctrl Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You do realize that the only people who have signed up did so directly through their states exchange right?
    3/4 of them using the phone.
     
  4. hiimjered

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    For comparison, Apple sold over 5 million iPhones in the first week of each of their last two releases. That was for an expensive luxury product that no one actually needs.

    Compared to that, something required by law only getting 68,000 signed up in the first week is pretty weak.

    Where are the 40,000,000 people who need insurance that prompted the creation of this law?
     
  5. Ctrl

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    You will get a good bump the first month of people with pre-existing conditions. They will marvel at their lower costs and thank Obama tearfully.

    Of course these folks are the ones that cost the most, which is why they were uninsurable before... and need everyone else to sign on to pay for them. I again point out that these were almost all phone ins, directly to their states exchanges.

    Insurance sign-up breakdown by state.

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    State exchange breakdown

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    They are all signing up locally with their states exchange, not through obamacare websuck... they are almost all doing it over the phone.
     
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    ".. the US government spent a cool $634 million to construct the portal, according to the numbers on USAspending.gov. As a point of comparison, Digital Trends pointed out that Facebook didn't spend $600 million for the first six years it was up and running. In fact Facebook's early financing was minuscule even in compared with today's successful startups. Early rounds of seed funding from the founders themselves, angel investors like Peter Thiel, and VC firms totalled about $42 million in the first year after it launched. Twitter launched with only $360 million in seed money, and LinkedIn and Spotify with under $300 million.

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    The Affordable Care Act’s highly publicized technical malfunction is a peek into a government system that's fundamentally broken. (As if we needed further proof of that, considering the government hasn't even been running for two weeks, now) At the root of the problem is the complex process of awarding government contracts to the IT firms tasked with developing new technology.

    “The episode is all too typical of how government creates IT services,” said Tom Lee, director of the Sunlight Labs research nonprofit, told the Washington Post yesterday. “The procurement process tends to select for firms that are good at navigating the procurement process, not providing good IT services for the dollar.”
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  7. TomFitz

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    Your point being? That's the way its supposed to work.
     
  8. Tom Joad

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    Here in Florida too.

    80% of the **********s would starve to death without Social Security and Medicare.
     
  9. jcarlilesiu

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    No kidding.

    Before this atrocity of a law was passed, the left made it seem like people where dying on the door steps of hospitals. I would think that as soon as the sign-ups began, millions would flock to get signed up and impede the imminent halt of humanity due to lack of insurance.

    68,000... really?

    And then to come here and brag about 68,000? Good lord.

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    So now lack of interest is because of the republicans?

    >>>MOD EDIT: PERSONAL INSULT<<<
     
  10. Tom Joad

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    It's pretty damned good for just the first week.

    85% don't have to do anything, so we're only talking about 15% of the population.

    http://obamacarefacts.com/howdoes-obamacare-work.php

    Plus, from what I hear most of these sites were slammed and still are slammed.

    I don't know about you, my I don't sit on hold for more than a few seconds before I say "to Hell with it, I'll check back when the crowd clears out."

    Then there's the fact that only 1/8 of the people even knew that enrollment was open.

    http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014607897

    I'd say things are not looking good for the Obamacare haters.
     
  11. Lee S

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    But 68,000 people did not sign up for insurance in New York and California. 68,000 created an account that allowed them to look at the insurance they cannot afford. Do you honestly think if more than a few dozen people actually sign up for the overpriced crap that is selling on the exchanges that the administration would be touting the number of people who bought insurance? Of course they would. Obama has never been shy about taking credit for anything. But instead, we are faced with the roar of silence.

    And how can anyone be surprised by the utter failure that this program has been? The assumption that you can just magic in 40 million uninsured people into a system and add no new costs with no loss of quality is just the thinking of people who rarely visit reality. So we have 68,000 people in two states create an account for getting 'free' insurance only to find out the policies are either worse than before or more expensive than before. So what? That isn't some Obama victory. It is just like looking at the iceberg and commenting on the amount of damage the Titianic did to it.
     
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    Plus, 80% of the Redneck Republicans send their wives out to work for the government so that the family can have Health Insurance.
     
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    These sites being the states own exchanges... not healthcare.gov.
    Slammed or not, 3/4 of them signed up over their specific exchanges phone in programs.
    Care to guess how many have pre-existing conditions? The people who will drive everyone elses costs will be the first on board... that and Obamabots.
     
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    Bug becomes feature.

    An administration agitprop position awaits such fighting spirit.
     
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    Freeloaders are always first in line. How many people who could actually pay for it have signed up? hahaha!
     
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    How can anyone defend the broken product that the administration rolled out? Nobody should be happy with that. We paid for something that didn't work.

    If only 1/8th of the people knew then there is a failure by the administration to get that information out there. That only makes the situation worse, few knew and those who did were working with a broken product. You can't see a problem with that? Wow...
     
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    after Obama spending a BILLION dollars in CA on exchange grants and CA spending who knows what to get their site up and running, they get 28.7 thousand signed up & they're bragging? Only in government, using other peoples money, does this equate to success.
     
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    What's your solution for people with pre-existing conditions?

    Oh wait, I think I know.

    [video=youtube;-usmvYOPfco]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-usmvYOPfco[/video]
     
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    It would depend on the pre-existing condition. If you smoke/drink/eat yourself to death... you get to do that. I am not paying for your care... so... yeah... 1. Don't get sick.
     
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    No it shouldn't depend on anything. Anyone can have a pre-existing condition and not be their fault.
     
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    68,000, or 51,000 as a lot of reports are stating. Either way, At that rate we'd have maybe 2 million in a 6 month enrollment period?

    Keep in mind these figures from the CBO before you celebrate.


    Looks like a turd, and something no one really needed.
     
  23. jcarlilesiu

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    LOL

    Yes, yes. It must be me that missed the crux of a post which completely avoided the topic solely for a partisan jab.

    Give it up dude.
     
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    And you should be able to go to the pet store and buy a teacup unicorn that eats butterflies and poops rainbows.

    You want to knowingly damage yourself, fine. I am not paying for it.
     
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    Obama and his democrat jerkoffs will not be happy until we are all broke and having to rely on the government to provide for us. Its very clear they want to put our vote into submission.
     

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